Jon Jones tests positive. UFC card moved to L.A.

[JIBBBY]

2012: Car crash in to pole, DUI.

2015: Pops for coke, UFC 182.

2015: Crashes car into pregnant women's vehicle, flees scene, returns for weed, police still find it anyway.

2016: Failed drug test before UFC 200. Suspended 1 year, removed from card.

2017: Stripped of belt for roids, before UFC 214.


Well, guess he needed a 2018 fukkup, thats part of bein' Jon Jones

Course glad I watch the events from home, all them poor saps who bought flights, meal reservations, hotel reservations, etc...not to mention it'll be 7-10 days before ticket reimbursement rofl...

Wonder how the weigh-in will be affected, thought cali had the new system where you can only come in and lose up to 10% of your total weight on fight week.

He's got a wrap sheet a mile long.. ..

[rsynweap84]

He's got a wrap sheet a mile long.. ..

Yerp. Guy has sh!t fer brains, but some of the most accurate and technical fighting skills, well he did, but we'll see on Sat...no one walks away undefeated...or has yet at any rate. That rust was real when he fought OSP...and Gus gave him a fight, one if the not the closest to losin'.

Course if he does lose someone will probably blame it on racism, just how it it is now in this day an age.

[sourtwist]

Yerp. Guy has sh!t fer brains, but some of the most accurate and technical fighting skills, well he did, but we'll see on Sat...no one walks away undefeated...or has yet at any rate. That rust was real when he fought OSP...and Gus gave him a fight, one if the not the closest to losin'.

Course if he does lose someone will probably blame it on racism, just how it it is now in this day an age.

He won't blame it on race...he's not that kind of guy

[rsynweap84]

He won't blame it on race...he's not that kind of guy

Pretty sure "he" and "someone" are not exactly the same thing friend. I do not think he will, either though, and...

I'm not so confident he will lose.

The payout would be better if he did, but that's wishful thinkin' like hopin' LSU was gonna beat Alabama...damn that was terribad.

Point bein' is you got people citin' racism for not liking him in this forum, when he has a conduct that is indicative of a bag 'o sh!t. You might wanna give him chances, and a lot of people did, those dates aren't fake, you can find articles on every one of them. Multiple articles infact. Most in this forum gave him every chance to change, so don't expect sympathy, if he gets it great, if not well his sorry ass earned that too.

[sourtwist]

Pretty sure "he" and "someone" are not exactly the same thing friend. I do not think he will, either though, and...

I'm not so confident he will lose.

The payout would be better if he did, but that's wishful thinkin' like hopin' LSU was gonna beat Alabama...damn that was terribad.

Gotcha...

[Frank Mills]

Can't wait ! Why do most of ya care ? Don't ya just want to win your bet ?

BTW ...look who turned PRO

[Thrilla]

[Frank Mills]

[icecapper]

Guy has to hire a new doctor. 100% of these guys are on the hot sauce and he's the only one without a masking agent to hide it.

[sourtwist]

Guy has to hire a new doctor. 100% of these guys are on the hot sauce and he's the only one without a masking agent to hide it.

While you could be correct, I have a feeling that many of the anti-steroid, jon jones haters wouldn't like to face the fact that professional sports will never be clean. He's just an easy target while others are one or two steps ahead of testing.

[Thrilla]

MMA Community React to Jon Jones drugs test failure from USADA & UFC 232 being moved from Las Vegas to LA

Reactions from Ariel Helwani, Joe Rogan, Mark Hunt, Daniel Cormier and more

[frankieunits2685]

Was this the first time that jones has been tested since his last incident?? Wouldn’t this “grain of salt” that he stated it only was years back, be showing up in all the most recent tests?? I’m just asking because I don’t really know how the ufc testing works, but I’m sure he’s had some sort of testing up to this date, wouldn’t that same substance have shown up on previous recent tests??

[Thor4140]

He is the only guy i know who’s fight IQ doubles his real IQ. I forget who said it but one of his opponent once said you could watch all the film u want of him and he will do something never before on film. I just don’t understand the guy. He is well spoken, seems like a great guy, yet does all this retarded shit. Than he fights and he looks like a genius. Go figure.

[sourtwist]

Was this the first time that jones has been tested since his last incident?? Wouldn’t this “grain of salt” that he stated it only was years back, be showing up in all the most recent tests?? I’m just asking because I don’t really know how the ufc testing works, but I’m sure he’s had some sort of testing up to this date, wouldn’t that same substance have shown up on previous recent tests??

One would think

[frankieunits2685]

One would think

Exactly , which makes me think, if this was from his previous incident it would show up in ALL his prior recent tests up to this date and would have been acknowledged and reported. I personally think Jones got caught microdosing,and this is the UFCs way to cover their azz???? When jones first got caught they said the amount was equivalent to a grain of salt or something along those lines... find it hard to believe that’s what showed up recently

[JIBBBY]

Can't wait ! Why do most of ya care ? Don't ya just want to win your bet ?

BTW ...look who turned PRO

Not really sure who to bet in this one. First fight was damn close. Gus is ready, JJ is juiced.. Who frigg'n knows?

JJ by decision like the first fight or Gus by KO maybe?

1011 Jones wins by 5 round decision

+206

1037 Gustafsson wins by TKO/KO

+895

Got this as well to consider

1041 Jones wins by TKO/KO

+300

[Frank Mills]

This sucks for Jon. He seems to be in a lose - lose situation. I would not be surprised if he got f'd up and left everyone hanging in CA

[sourtwist]

Exactly , which makes me think, if this was from his previous incident it would show up in ALL his prior recent tests up to this date and would have been acknowledged and reported. I personally think Jones got caught microdosing,and this is the UFCs way to cover their azz???? When jones first got caught they said the amount was equivalent to a grain of salt or something along those lines... find it hard to believe that’s what showed up recently

I don't know much about microdosing, but I do know about steroid half life, and how steroids need to build up to a steady amount in your bloodstream in order to start reaping the benefits. Some steroids, like propionate are used at the beginning of a cycle along with an enanthate or cypionate because the prop starts working quicker and the cyp or enan will "kick in" within a few weeks...there is a science to every steriod, and I don't remember all of my research from the past...

Just a side note, turinabol is not very effective on it's own, and is almost always stacked with a testosterone...jones knows this

[Thrilla]

Joe Rogan & Joey Diaz

Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1220

[sourtwist]

Everyone should watch that thrilla video

People need to educate before jumping to conclusions

Anyone calling him a cheater should apologize

[JIBBBY]

Everyone should watch that thrilla video

People need to educate before jumping to conclusions

Anyone calling him a cheater should apologize

I watched the video and I'm still not buying it.. We have a UFC event go down almost every week and how come other fighters are getting popped like JJ is now? The dude liked this steroid and used it in the past and again recently. JJ should not be taking steroids and or supps that are tainted that got him pinched in the past even if that is the case. It showed up on tests guilty as charged.. Event moved..

JJ cheated again. My guess is he cheated 5 or 6 months ago and thought it would be out of his system by now.. Listened to people around him. Got pinched again anyways after testing in December.. I don't see other fighters getting pinched like JJ does time and time again.

He's got problems and doesn't take his profession seriously with the steroid use and substance abuse time and time again and that's the bottom line.

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Lol

If you injected a banned sub in your azzcheeks, the steroid can remain in fat cells for years creating a positive test

There are more details than what people think...making assumptions without investigation is never a good way to go about things

I read the whole thing. You really believe that crap? You don't think the head honchos are doing everything they can to keep the fight on? This is right up there with Barry Bonds claiming he didn't know that BALCO was giving him steroids.

[TommieGunshot]

If the guy feels he needs an edge or likes to get high good for him I'm not hating on him for that, I'm just saying it's not fair to other fighters or the sport and for those that keep it clean. Just that simple.. Play fair or don't play at all.

Reminds of Barry Bonds in Baseball.. Mark Mcquire etc..

When Bonds and McGwire were using drugs, there was no drug policy enforcement and no testing. It was fair for them to be using, because there competition was allowed to do the same. Hell, Bonds didn't even start using until after he lost a couple MVP awards while playing clean (to Caminiti and Sosa). The UFC should just stop testing and allow fighters to use whatever they want, like how baseball did it to win back fans in the 90s after the strike. It's what Dana White is telling us he wants by trying to feed us this bullshit about Jon Jones not using, despite testing hot yet again

[Frank Mills]

Regardless, I do believe as you say the h honchos are doing that. Is D. White involved ? there ya go

I read the whole thing. You really believe that crap? You don't think the head honchos are doing everything they can to keep the fight on? This is right up there with Barry Bonds claiming he didn't know that BALCO was giving him steroids.

[mngambler]

When Bonds and McGwire were using drugs, there was no drug policy enforcement and no testing. It was fair for them to be using, because there competition was allowed to do the same. Hell, Bonds didn't even start using until after he lost a couple MVP awards while playing clean (to Caminiti and Sosa). The UFC should just stop testing and allow fighters to use whatever they want, like how baseball did it to win back fans in the 90s after the strike. It's what Dana White is telling us he wants by trying to feed us this bullshit about Jon Jones not using, despite testing hot yet again

this...let these guys get juiced up as much as they want on supps and blow, let their hearts explode on live Pay-Per-View, makes for good ratings

[bjpenn85]

I read the whole thing. You really believe that crap? You don't think the head honchos are doing everything they can to keep the fight on? This is right up there with Barry Bonds claiming he didn't know that BALCO was giving him steroids.

It can be true, vitamin B12 gets stored in the body 3-4 years after ingestion, its written that for a couple of years ago they created a test that could find traces of turinabol 12 month after usage. On the flip side, one reddit reader made a convincing estimate on the basis of halflife that whites story more or less 100% is crap as jones would have needed to ingest deadly doses for it to show up 16 month later, so i dont know what to believe.

[rsynweap84]

Everyone should watch that thrilla video

People need to educate before jumping to conclusions

Anyone calling him a cheater should apologize

But he did cheat. That was proven. He got stripped for it. He made this bed, he screwed up, not once, not twice, not three or four, but at least five goddamn times...

If anyone should apologize, it should be him, but only a moron would trust him, even though he might be telling the truth.

They have a kid story about this, the boy who cried wolf. Screw up trust to many times, and you have no leg to stand on.

The fans didn't go sniff a few lines, and show up and piss hot before a fight.
The other fighters didn't go ram their car into preggo chicks and leave em' to fend for themselves.
Usada didn't hold a gun to his head and force him to rap his car around a tree while he was sh!tfaced.

Noone did anything to Jon Jones, except Jon Jones. This is his legacy, it shoulda been his ability, it shoulda been his fights, it shoulda been his Cormier rivalry, but instead it's his rap sheet. He owns it, he did it.

[frankieunits2685]

When Bonds and McGwire were using drugs, there was no drug policy enforcement and no testing. It was fair for them to be using, because there competition was allowed to do the same. Hell, Bonds didn't even start using until after he lost a couple MVP awards while playing clean (to Caminiti and Sosa). The UFC should just stop testing and allow fighters to use whatever they want, like how baseball did it to win back fans in the 90s after the strike. It's what Dana White is telling us he wants by trying to feed us this bullshit about Jon Jones not using, despite testing hot yet again

One of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Can’t fix the problem so just join them and let everyone do it??? And then that means that younger kids, high schoolers, etc will start using all this garbage since it would be “legal” in professional sports. Gtfo

[eidolon]

More than one year

Deca-Durabolin, Norandren, Dynabolan, Anabolicum, Turanabol Depot, Durabolin, Anabolin, Fenobolin, and Turinabol all remain in the system for 12 to 18 months. If you take any of these compounds, be aware that you will likely be unable to pass a steroid test for 12 to 18 months. Since it’s very often hard to predict what field we’ll be in over a year from now, these substances should be avoided.

5–12 months

D-Bol, Dianabol, Equipoise, Equigan, Ganabol, Finaject, Finjet, and Finaplix are compounds, which can show up on drug screenings up to a year after they are taken. Some will wash out of the system within 5 months, but they may remain for up to one year.

2–4 months

Testosterone Cypionate, Primoteston Depot, Sten,Injectable steroids, Sostenon, Durateston, Anadrol, Anapolin, Hemogenin, Stenox, Halotesten, and Winstrol are drugs, which can show up on a blood or urine screen within one to four months of use. These are acceptable for off-season use by many athletes who are not tested during this period, as they are often out of the system by the time the season starts.

2 to 6 weeks

Nilevar, Parabolan, Dianabol (oral), D-Bol (oral), Primobolan Depot, Anavar, Winstrol/Stanozolol (oral), and testosterone Propionate are compounds, which work fast and move through the system very quickly. Just as their half-life is short, the positive anabolic effects upon their body are done quickly as well.

Less than one week

Clenbuterol and Testosterone Undecanoate (Andriol) clear the system in one day or less. These compounds are ideal to use up to the week before a tested bodybuilding or powerlifting show. Additionally, Testosterone Suspension clears the system in three days.

[JIBBBY]

Juicers gonna juice.

Bottom line is they are afraid their own natural strength and talents will not be good enough. It's a weakness in the mind. Then rules are broken, fights are cancelled, commissions suspend you, boss gets pissed off, fighters get pissed off, fans start hating..

DON'T DO IT!!!

[Slipknot26]

The Fighters and fans should be thrilled with him .
Fukk up tons of travel , then add in taxes off the purses since the venue was scrapped .
Nevada would've been no tax off the purse , now every fighter will pay 10+% of their purse to California for taxes .
Usually gains you a lot of friends literally costing them money .

[JIBBBY]

The Fighters and fans should be thrilled with him .
Fukk up tons of travel , then add in taxes off the purses since the venue was scrapped .
Nevada would've been no tax off the purse , now every fighter will pay 10+% of their purse to California for taxes .
Usually gains you a lot of friends literally costing them money .

That's right.. California will tax the shiiit out of you.. State taxes are high.. We got that Robin Hood mentality take from the rich and give to the poor here going on in the sunshine State. Politicians get theirs though, all filthy rich. Only problem with that is some of the rich and much of the middle class are getting pissed off and moving out of California now. Soon it will be all Mexicans and homeless. You will have small pockets of rich folks only..

Give it 25 years.. State is broken and broke and we can't even fix our roads anymore.. Pension plan State holdings are busting at the seems and emptying out, only fix for that is to raise the taxes more. Will need more Federal help and aid soon.. State is so miss managed

Democrat Liberal leaders in California are destroying this State and running it into the ground with the freebies. We just keep voting them in. Giving everything to illegals and the homeless are a top priority now. It will just make more want to come. Doesn't fix the problem.

[Slipknot26]

If I was a fighter , I'd be pissed , depending on the purse , fight of the night , etc the move can and will be costly .
All because one sumbitch can't pass a piss test and now everyone is literally "paying" taxes .
Here's a Novel idea for the UFC :
Fail a test - 1st suspension , the length that the banned substance is in your system .
Turinabol , Ostarine , if it stays 18 - 24 months , that's the suspension to ensure zero doubt they're clean when they return .

Lawlor got popped - 2 year ban Ostarine

O Malley popped for same substance as Lawlor yet a 6 month ban
Jones popped for the 5th time yet only a 15 month ban

Its simply based off the Fighters ability to make sorry ass Dana White money . Yet he wonders why a lot call him and the UFC a clown show .

[TommieGunshot]

When Bonds and McGwire were using drugs, there was no drug policy enforcement and no testing. It was fair for them to be using, because there competition was allowed to do the same. Hell, Bonds didn't even start using until after he lost a couple MVP awards while playing clean (to Caminiti and Sosa). The UFC should just stop testing and allow fighters to use whatever they want, like how baseball did it to win back fans in the 90s after the strike. It's what Dana White is telling us he wants by trying to feed us this bullshit about Jon Jones not using, despite testing hot yet again

One of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Can’t fix the problem so just join them and let everyone do it??? And then that means that younger kids, high schoolers, etc will start using all this garbage since it would be “legal” in professional sports. Gtfo

All of the problems you describe are all completely true with the current UFC drug policy that allows athletes like Jon Jones to fail multiple tests and still fight.

UFC absolutely could fix the problem by adopting IOC standards. They simply choose not to.

[frankieunits2685]

All of the problems you describe are all completely true with the current UFC drug policy that allows athletes like Jon Jones to fail multiple tests and still fight.

UFC absolutely could fix the problem by adopting IOC standards. They simply choose not to.

Yeah pretty much, the UFC also plays favorites just like everyone else. I forgot what his name was but I know there was another fighter who got suspended for 2 years because he had a smaller amount pop up on his test compared to jones.