LeVeon Bell giving up $853,000 is asinine.

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  • Andy117
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    • 02-07-10
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    #316
    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
    I agree that Bell is a once in a decade RB but dont you think that decade is now the past....his best years in the mirror? He'll be 27/28 next year I mean really what's left in the tank?
    Once in a decade RB?
    Is he really better than Gurley, Elliot, Barkley, Hunt, Gordon, AP or McCoy?
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    • Travistop
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      • 09-02-18
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      #317
      I’d like to know how it’s possible for bell to recoup the 14million he was going to get? No way this move made his net worth higher.
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      • thechaoz
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        • 10-23-09
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        #318
        Originally posted by Travistop
        I’d like to know how it’s possible for bell to recoup the 14million he was going to get? No way this move made his net worth higher.
        He's better than Gurley and he got 45 million Guaranteed (could make more)

        So if he gets, let's say 50 million Guaranteed, that's like him making 14.5 this year , and 35 next year which is more than he would of made we with the third franchise tag.

        Some guys here and on TV are bad at math
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        • Kermit
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          • 09-27-10
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          #319
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          • thechaoz
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            • 10-23-09
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            #320
            Originally posted by Git Lo
            its so simple, isnt it?
            It's the new world. He's still elite and getting paid tough
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            • Kermit
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              • 09-27-10
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              #321
              Originally posted by thechaoz
              He's better than Gurley and he got 45 million Guaranteed (could make more)

              So if he gets, let's say 50 million Guaranteed, that's like him making 14.5 this year , and 35 next year which is more than he would of made we with the third franchise tag.

              Some guys here and on TV are bad at math
              He also got a year older with zero field time. Does that help or hurt him?
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              • maggiethebestdog
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                • 12-21-13
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                #322
                Originally posted by thechaoz
                He's better than Gurley and he got 45 million Guaranteed (could make more)

                So if he gets, let's say 50 million Guaranteed, that's like him making 14.5 this year , and 35 next year which is more than he would of made we with the third franchise tag.

                Some guys here and on TV are bad at math
                He is not better than Gurley and he is a suspension waiting to happen while Gurley is the ultimate pro

                He deserves more guaranteed money than the Steelers offered but I would pay Gurley before I would pay him

                Hunt, Barkley, Kamara, Conner all prove that great backs are not that hard to find
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                • thechaoz
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                  • 10-23-09
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                  #323
                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                  He is not better than Gurley and he is a suspension waiting to happen while Gurley is the ultimate pro

                  He deserves more guaranteed money than the Steelers offered but I would pay Gurley before I would pay him

                  Hunt, Barkley, Kamara, Conner all prove that great backs are not that hard to find
                  I'm not arguing how good or not he is per se, but that someone WILL give him this cash
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                  • The Giant
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                    • 01-21-12
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                    #324
                    I don't understand why everyone thinks Bell is so good.

                    They just inserted another running back that's topping all of Bell's career high numbers.

                    What's the infatuation with this guy? Is it because he's shifty and can cut on a dime?
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                    • thechaoz
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                      • 10-23-09
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                      #325
                      Originally posted by The Giant
                      I don't understand why everyone thinks Bell is so good.

                      They just inserted another running back that's topping all of Bell's career high numbers.

                      What's the infatuation with this guy? Is it because he's shifty and can cut on a dime?
                      He's levels above Connor, but he's running behind the best O line in football.

                      He's a RB/WR with Elite speed and elusiveness
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                      • JaimeMiro
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                        • 03-14-17
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                        #326
                        Originally posted by Travistop
                        I’d like to know how it’s possible for bell to recoup the 14million he was going to get? No way this move made his net worth higher.
                        He can't, however, he's set for a big contract depending on the team which will want to sign him. Prolly 40+ mil guaranteed. Current offer of 70 mil *14 guaranteed would look very different if he got injured cause the Steelers could just offload him...
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                        • The Giant
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                          • 01-21-12
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                          #327
                          Originally posted by thechaoz
                          He's levels above Connor
                          What are you basing this on?

                          Feelings?
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                          • maggiethebestdog
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                            • 12-21-13
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                            #328
                            Originally posted by thechaoz
                            I'm not arguing how good or not he is per se, but that someone WILL give him this cash
                            Ok
                            I agree that he will get a lot of money
                            I just don't know how much people will pay for a RB who has off field issues, especially when there are so many other talented backs constantly coming into the league

                            I don't mean holding out, just his other issues
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                            • Kermit
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                              • 09-27-10
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                              #329
                              Originally posted by thechaoz
                              He's levels above Connor, but he's running behind the best O line in football.

                              He's a RB/WR with Elite speed and elusiveness
                              I wouldn't say that he is levels above Connor. Connor is crushing all of Bell's stats while the Steelers are about to also have 2 receivers going well over 1,000 yards this year.

                              It will be interesting to see how Bell does next year with a different offensive line.

                              As far as contracts go, Bell isn't exactly a "Model Player", so they may hurt him.
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                              • Git Lo
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                                • 02-20-11
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                                #330
                                somewhere leveon bell is smiling as ben throws a pick in the end zone
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                  • 01-04-09
                                  • 48381

                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by Git Lo
                                  somewhere leveon bell is smiling as ben throws a pick in the end zone
                                  Connor went down with a lower left leg injury. If he's out for the season, Pitt is screwed.
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                                  • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                    • 05-15-10
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                                    #332
                                    Pitt will be fine. No one thought Conner would compare to Bell but he did superb; the next man up will do the same.
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                                    • PAULYPOKER
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                                      #333
                                      ^ No whoever won't be fine..........
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                                      • jtoler
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                                        • 12-17-13
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                                        #334
                                        I see little connor is broke up right now is ridley gonna do anything
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                                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                                          • 01-04-09
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                                          #335
                                          Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                          Pitt will be fine. No one thought Conner would compare to Bell but he did superb; the next man up will do the same.
                                          The next man up fumbled the ball in 2 games that led to key losses. Sorry but the next man up has not rang true without Bell. Even Connor was not on Bell's level. If you've seen the Steelers much, you should know that something has been wrong with their offense this entire year and it's because they didn't have Bell. Steeler fans were in denial but the truth is now staring them in the ass.
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                                          • 2daBank
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                                            • 01-26-09
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                                            #336
                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                            The next man up fumbled the ball in 2 games that led to key losses. Sorry but the next man up has not rang true without Bell. Even Connor was not on Bell's level. If you've seen the Steelers much, you should know that something has been wrong with their offense this entire year and it's because they didn't have Bell. Steeler fans were in denial but the truth is now staring them in the ass.
                                            Some guys worth the money, he one of them.
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                                            • Kermit
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                                              • 09-27-10
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                                              #337
                                              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                              The next man up fumbled the ball in 2 games that led to key losses. Sorry but the next man up has not rang true without Bell. Even Connor was not on Bell's level. If you've seen the Steelers much, you should know that something has been wrong with their offense this entire year and it's because they didn't have Bell. Steeler fans were in denial but the truth is now staring them in the ass.
                                              Nothing was wrong with their offense. Their defense(as usual), Kicker problems, and bone-head decisions made by the coach were the issues.

                                              Steelers already have more yards and points scored through 15 games this year than they did through the 16 games last season with Bell.
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                                              • 2daBank
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                                                • 01-26-09
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                                                #338
                                                Originally posted by Kermit
                                                Nothing was wrong with their offense. Their defense(as usual), Kicker problems, and bone-head decisions made by the coach were the issues.

                                                Steelers already have more yards and points scored through 15 games this year than they did through the 16 games last season with Bell.
                                                Good running back makes defense better.
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                                                • Kermit
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                                                  • 09-27-10
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                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                  Good running back makes defense better.
                                                  Mac said the problem was their offense. So which is it? I don't remember Bell making much of a difference last year with the Steelers' defense compared to this year.
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                    • 01-04-09
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                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                    Mac said the problem was their offense. So which is it? I don't remember Bell making much of a difference last year with the Steelers' defense compared to this year.
                                                    Kermit - Bell allowed the Steelers to control clock and give the defense a breather. Now, they are throwing the ball way too much and wearing their defense out. Plus they are just not as efficient on offense without Bell. Look at the box scores. When Big Ben is your 2nd leading rusher that's a huge problem.
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                                                    • convick
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                                                      • 11-03-11
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                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by Kermit
                                                      Mac said the problem was their offense. So which is it? I don't remember Bell making much of a difference last year with the Steelers' defense compared to this year.
                                                      That’s cause you’re a lil dense lil buddy.
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                                                      • jtoler
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                                                        • 12-17-13
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                                                        #342
                                                        no bell no playoffs
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                                                        • 2daBank
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                                                          • 01-26-09
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                                                          #343
                                                          Originally posted by jtoler
                                                          no bell no playoffs
                                                          Pretty simple math, I think guys just wanna argue cause they don’t like him or jelly he gonna get what he worth? I dunno. Seems obvious Steelers were better with him!!
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                                                          • jtoler
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                                                            • 12-17-13
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                                                            #344
                                                            Originally posted by Kermit
                                                            Nothing was wrong with their offense. Their defense(as usual), Kicker problems, and bone-head decisions made by the coach were the issues.

                                                            Steelers already have more yards and points scored through 15 games this year than they did through the 16 games last season with Bell.
                                                            the difference is they were 12-3 at this point last year with bell and not 8-6-1 without bell. defense is 9th in the league in ypg not too shabby 27 yds more than last year.
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                                                            • MinnesotaFats
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                                                              • 12-18-10
                                                              • 14758

                                                              #345
                                                              Guys

                                                              Pitt played 11 games last year vs teams that missed the playoffs... think a out the ease of that.

                                                              This year their own division may not have a team w a losing record (or maybe Cinci has 9 already not sure)

                                                              Like the Vikes this year, 11 or 12 games versus playoff teams from 17 or 18 plus 2 vs Aaron Rogers.

                                                              Bell's impact negated by Conner performance, Bell's money well worth the impact elsewhere in 19 and beyond.
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                                                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                                                #346
                                                                Bell got what he wanted.... Pittsburgh not able to make the playoffs because of his absence.
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                                                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                                  • 01-04-09
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                                                                  #347
                                                                  Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                                  Guys
                                                                  Pitt played 11 games last year vs teams that missed the playoffs... think a out the ease of that.
                                                                  This year their own division may not have a team w a losing record (or maybe Cinci has 9 already not sure)
                                                                  Like the Vikes this year, 11 or 12 games versus playoff teams from 17 or 18 plus 2 vs Aaron Rogers.
                                                                  Bell's impact negated by Conner performance, Bell's money well worth the impact elsewhere in 19 and beyond.
                                                                  The Steelers was 1-1 with the Ravens, 1 and 0 with Cinci and 1-0-1 with the Browns. It's not like the Ravens, Browns and Cinci were the teams beating them as the Raven's are the only team in the AFC North to beat them in the division.

                                                                  Steelers streak of 3 straight years with 10 plus wins just went to shit. What is the one glaring hole. Bell... Steeler fans trying to compare Conner to Bell is straight up ludicrous. The Steelers are losing CLOSE games. Bell would have given them that extra oomph to win those close ones. Bell gave you depth at RB and maybe, just maybe Conner doesn't get hurt. Cheap ass management rolled the dice and came up craps. Bell was vindicated but Steeler fans are too prideful to admit it.
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                                                                  • jtoler
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                                                                    • 12-17-13
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                                                                    #348
                                                                    Bell gone?
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                                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                                      • 01-04-09
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                                                                      #349
                                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                      Bell gone?
                                                                      Well, we now know that the Stoolers are gone. Pay the fukkking man. Haha, Bell got vindicated. Good job Steeler Oline, especially Pouncey for being the bitch of the year.
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                                                                      • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                                        • 07-13-06
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                                                                        #350
                                                                        4 years...53 Million with only 35 of it guaranteed???? What was the point of the hold out???
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