LeVeon Bell giving up $853,000 is asinine.

**stealthyburrito** · 09-09-18, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

What happen? They didn’t kick the fg?

Blocked

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 03:59 PM

Mac this is auctually a win - Browns had no business coming back down 21-7

**Mac4Lyfe** · 09-09-18, 03:59 PM

That block in the back on the interception return did it. Too many penalties. Then you don't even take a shot at the end zone, playing for a FG in horrible weather. Typical Hue Jackson bullshit.

Both teams kept trying to give this game away. Neither one wanted to take it. 6 Pitt turnovers and you can't win the game. Frustrating.

Haley looks like he just won the lottery. Smiling and yucking it up with friends. What a shitty ending that should have been a win.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 09-09-18, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

Mac this is auctually a win - Browns had no business coming back down 21-7

I'm trying to look at the bright side... BUT how the FUKKK do you not win a game with 6 takeaways? Pittsburgh should have won this game by 3 TD's if I'm being honest.

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

That block in the back on the interception return did it. Too many penalties. Then you don't even take a shot at the end zone, playing for a FG in horrible weather. Typical Hue Jackson bullshit.

Both teams kept trying to give this game away. Neither one wanted to take it. 6 Pitt turnovers and you can't win the game. Frustrating.

Haley looks like he just won the lottery. Smiling and yucking it up with friends. What a shitty ending that should have been a win.

Lollolol- Haley and Big Ben are best friends !!!

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:02 PM

Wow man fcking wild -
Miss fg by a great kicker and a block fg? Browns got something going on this year

**stealthyburrito** · 09-09-18, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I'm trying to look at the bright side... BUT how the FUKKK do you not win a game with 6 takeaways? Pittsburgh should have won this game by 3 TD's if I'm being honest.

The Browns are +5 in takeaways today. Since the Browns returned to the NFL, teams with a turnover margin of +5 or better in a game are 132-4-1. The Browns are responsible for two of those losses and the tie.

Rest of the league: 130-2
Browns: 2-2-1

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:06 PM

Tyrod Taylor is bad -

**Mac4Lyfe** · 09-09-18, 04:08 PM

1971 last time 2 teams tied on opening day. Brown's keep setting WTF records.

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

1971 last time 2 teams tied on opening day. Brown's keep setting WTF records.

Throw baker in now - Browns got weapons on offense - I believe the AFC north is the toughest division in football !!

**2Shirts** · 09-09-18, 04:13 PM

They literally played not to lose and not to win - amazing

**Mac4Lyfe** · 09-09-18, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by stealthyburrito

The Browns are +5 in takeaways today. Since the Browns returned to the NFL, teams with a turnover margin of +5 or better in a game are 132-4-1. The Browns are responsible for two of those losses and the tie.

Rest of the league: 130-2
Browns: 2-2-1

Fukking ridiculous. That is just depressing.

Browns got screwed by the refs today. There was no block in the back on the INT that got run back to the goal line. That call set up the blocked FG IMO. Bad teams seem to always get the bad end of the whistle and that's the Browns. Plus, Browns special teams was awful as well. Average ST play and reduce the stupid penalties and this would have been a win. But the big reality is that if Mayfield was playing, this would have been a win as well. What has to be done, should be done. I think I'm in the start Mayfield camp already. Tyrod was just so bad.

**pavyracer** · 09-09-18, 04:14 PM

Both teams split the points. You get 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw.

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Fukking ridiculous. That is just depressing.

Browns got screwed by the refs today. There was no block in the back on the INT that got run back to the goal line. That call set up the blocked FG IMO. Bad teams seem to always get the bad end of the whistle and that's the Browns. Plus, Browns special teams was awful as well. Average ST play and reduce the stupid penalties and this would have been a win. But the big reality is that if Mayfield was playing, this would have been a win as well. What has to be done, should be done. I think I'm in the start Mayfield camp already. Tyrod was just so bad.

Those free bud lights is coming bro lol -

**Mac4Lyfe** · 09-09-18, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

Throw baker in now - Browns got weapons on offense - I believe the AFC north is the toughest division in football !!

I wanted him to sit out and learn behind Tyrod but why learn from a turd? Taylor's decision making and his poor accuracy was glaring. He looks to run first and is locked in on only 1 receiver. He looked good early in camp but regressed the last couple of weeks and really looks like shit now. I'd give him 2 more weeks to get his shit together. You have a poor defensive team in New Orleans next week and a good defense the following week in the Jet's. If he can't get things going against New Orleans, he should be on a short leash from there.

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 09-09-18, 04:18 PM

Amazing that so many smart guys here fail to see the big picture. Nothing to do about how smart he is. The CBA is a god dam joke. Take the year off. Someone will pay him 60 mil guaranteed next year which is almost 2x Pitt offered. Even counting the 14 mil he loses this year his body is healthy and he’s still up 16mil

**Mac4Lyfe** · 09-09-18, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

Those free bud lights is coming bro lol -

Probably not next week in NOLA.

**pavyracer** · 09-09-18, 04:20 PM

They need to pay him. He touches the ball 400 times. He should get a 5 year $100 million contract.

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

They need to pay him. He touches the ball 400 times. He should get a 5 year $100 million contract.

Lollolllololl Pittsburgh wouldn’t be consistently good if they believe in your optics?

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Probably not next week in NOLA.

Bad spot for the Browns lol - Nola Just lost man

**mdunlap3** · 09-09-18, 04:24 PM

Longview. RBs value is largely derived on # of carries.

**seaborneq** · 09-09-18, 04:28 PM

This is not what the franchise tag was meant to be used for. It was supposed to help franchises keep their franchise quarterback, not hold the best non quarterback on the team hostage. Teams are using the franchise tag as a one way street knowing the players DON'T want to be franchised and nearly none of the teams end up signing the player they franchise because of bad blood. Needs to be for QB's only, the original intent, back when the Niners didn't want to lose Montana, was the only reason the franchise tag was created and now teams will throw it on any play DUE for a lottery sized pay raise.

**Plaza23** · 09-09-18, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY

Someone will pay him 60 mil guaranteed next year which is almost 2x Pitt offered.

No one is giving a 27 year old RB $60 mils guaranteed. Todd Gurley got 45 mils, and he's 24.

**seaborneq** · 09-09-18, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Plaza23

No one is giving a 27 year old RB $60 mils guaranteed. Todd Gurley got 45 mils, and he's 24.

If it weren't for the franchise tag he would have already signed a Todd Gurley type deal or close to it, but his weed consumption would have had an effect on the size and guarantees too.

**Git Lo** · 09-09-18, 04:33 PM

Bell could get the same avg a year as Gurley

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 09-09-18, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by seaborneq

This is not what the franchise was meant to be used for. It was supposed to help franchises keep their franchise quarterback, not hold the best non quarterback on the team hostage. Teams are using the franchise tag as a one way street knowing the players DON'T want to be franchised and nearly none of the teams end up signing the player they franchise because of bad blood. Needs to be for QB's only, the original intent, back when the Niners didn't want to lose Montana, was the only reason the franchise tag was created and now teams will throw it on any play DUE for a lottery sized pay raise.

Thread closed

fun fact. Gurley & David Johnson both got paid within a year of surpassing 1800 yards. Why hasn’t Bell

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY

Thread closed

fun fact. Gurley & David Johnson both got paid within a year of surpassing 1800 yards. Why hasn’t Bell

Rookie post - And Steelers have much more success then the rams and zona over the years ? Case closed - it’s a fcking business and you do what benifits your teams future ? Don’t get attach and give out free money !!

**PAULYPOKER** · 09-09-18, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

He seriously needs to get another agent. This move nothing does nothing for him except lose money.

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**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 04:46 PM

I always go back 2 New England? Did they ever pay a RB even 5 million a year? Fck no? And they got 5 Super Bowls !!!

**pavyracer** · 09-09-18, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

I always go back 2 New England? Did they ever pay a RB even 5 million a year? Fck no? And they got 5 Super Bowls !!!

Did they have a RB with #1 ranking of all players in fantasy football?

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 09-09-18, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

I always go back 2 New England? Did they ever pay a RB even 5 million a year? Fck no? And they got 5 Super Bowls !!!

So you don’t attribute that at all to the other teams in the AFC?

**Snowball** · 09-09-18, 04:57 PM

Levon who ?

**eidolon** · 09-09-18, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

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So I wonder if they are just going to hold him hostage now that they know they have a backup running back that can perform.

**ikid2groove415** · 09-09-18, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY

So you don’t attribute that at all to the other teams in the AFC?

You follow a winning formula ? Come on ? It’s not like back in the days where rb is valuable- Steelers got 3 pro bowl guys on the o-line ? And the most fear passing attack in the nfl - you know the guy that replace bell today ? Over 130 yards and 2 touchdown- RB is the easiest position in the NFL to replace !!

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 09-09-18, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

You follow a winning formula ? Come on ? It’s not like back in the days where rb is valuable- Steelers got 3 pro bowl guys on the o-line ? And the most fear passing attack in the nfl - you know the guy that replace bell today ? Over 130 yards and 2 touchdown- RB is the easiest position in the NFL to replace !!

Vs. Cleveland