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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83686

    #876
    Trump trying to even the trade playing field with China and other Countries have sent stock share holders into a panic.. Looming interest rate hikes and the probability of a Government shutdown probably didn't help matters either...

    Like I said panic sell offs from an already over inflated stock market is what we are seeing.. Things will calm down, job market and economy still going strong in America, more people are working today then ever in history.. That's what I look at..
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    • guitarjosh
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-25-07
      • 5786

      #877
      Originally posted by grease lightnin
      Ytd, but not qtd
      Most are down double digits qtd.
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82732

        #878
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Trump trying to even the trade playing field with China and other Countries have sent stock share holders into a panic.. Looming interest rate hikes and the probability of a Government shutdown probably didn't help matters either...

        Like I said panic sell offs from an already over inflated stock market is what we are seeing.. Things will calm down, job market and economy still going strong in America, more people are working today then ever in history.. That's what I look at..
        The market is concerned with Trump. He wants to fire everyone that doesn't listen to him, regardless of whether Trump knows anything about interest rates or foreign policy, and every decision Trump made this year didn't pan out for him from tariffs, foreign wars and the stupid wall.
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        • DwightShrute
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-17-09
          • 103102

          #879
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          The market is concerned with Trump. He wants to fire everyone that doesn't listen to him, regardless of whether Trump knows anything about interest rates or foreign policy, and every decision Trump made this year didn't pan out for him from tariffs, foreign wars and the stupid wall.


          makes absolutely no sense at all.
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          • d2bets
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            • 08-10-05
            • 39995

            #880
            Originally posted by DwightShrute
            makes absolutely no sense at all.
            To a TrumpTard, it wouldn't. make sense.
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            • Venom72
              SBR MVP
              • 10-05-16
              • 2041

              #881
              Originally posted by DwightShrute
              makes absolutely no sense at all.
              What doesnt make sense? Youre president is stupid, doesnt know even the basics of anything and is a failure, the market is reflecting his poor decisions, does that make more sense?
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              • DwightShrute
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-17-09
                • 103102

                #882
                repeating fake news made up narratives and pretending they are true. You guys are never right but that doesn't stop you from posting

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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83686

                  #883
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  The market is concerned with Trump. He wants to fire everyone that doesn't listen to him, regardless of whether Trump knows anything about interest rates or foreign policy, and every decision Trump made this year didn't pan out for him from tariffs, foreign wars and the stupid wall.
                  Canada and Mexico are on board with the new trade agreement which benefits America in the future.. I'd call that a win on Trade for Trump and America wouldn't you?
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82732

                    #884
                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                    Canada and Mexico are on board with the new trade agreement which benefits America in the future.. I'd call that a win on Trade for Trump and America wouldn't you?
                    We already had a trade agreement with these two. What is so much better with the new one? Ford and GM still make cars in Mexico and Carrier shut down their factory in Indiana and moved it to Mexico.

                    Point is we have a similar trade agreement like old NAFTA that didn't solve the problem of losing US jobs to Mexico.
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                    • gauchojake
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                      • 09-17-10
                      • 34109

                      #885
                      Originally posted by KRIT
                      Can someone explain the market crash to me. When explaining, try to explain it like you would to a 10 year old, that's how much I know about this. I've lost over 7k just this month. I'm guessing this is all on Trump. Where is OP at? Trump supporters could always point to the economy, but not the case now.
                      ITT grown men acting like 10 year olds
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                      • DwightShrute
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-17-09
                        • 103102

                        #886
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        We already had a trade agreement with these two. What is so much better with the new one? Ford and GM still make cars in Mexico and Carrier shut down their factory in Indiana and moved it to Mexico.

                        Point is we have a similar trade agreement like old NAFTA that didn't solve the problem of losing US jobs to Mexico.
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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83686

                          #887
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          We already had a trade agreement with these two. What is so much better with the new one? Ford and GM still make cars in Mexico and Carrier shut down their factory in Indiana and moved it to Mexico.

                          Point is we have a similar trade agreement like old NAFTA that didn't solve the problem of losing US jobs to Mexico.
                          Much is new with the trade deals that benefits America Pavy.. Just to show I'm impartial this is a CNN link showing the perks.. This is not fake news for once.. Much better then the Nafta deal we had already in place.

                          This is just with Canada.. Mexico the same though.. A complete win for America.. It's just fact..

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                          • DwightShrute
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-17-09
                            • 103102

                            #888
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            Much is new with the trade deals that benefits America Pavy.. Just to show I'm impartial this is a CNN link showing the perks.. This is not fake news for once.. Much better then the Nafta deal we had already in place.

                            This is just with Canada.. Mexico the same though.. A complete win for America.. It's just fact..

                            https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/01/polit...ces/index.html
                            Trump could say tomorrow "Walls don't work! They are a waste of money!", and guys like Pavyracer will tell everyone how great walls are and that you are an idiot to think they don't work.

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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83686

                              #889
                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                              Trump could say tomorrow "Walls don't work! They are a waste of money!", and guys like Pavyracer will tell everyone how great walls are and that you are an idiot to think they don't work.


                              Maybe Trump should take that approach and come out and say the wall won't work and the Democrats are completely right. In the end we might be able to back door this thing and get that border security wall built by default after all.

                              Reverse the resist mentality to get what is needed. Dwight you may be on to something here.
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                              • Venom72
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-05-16
                                • 2041

                                #890
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                Maybe Trump should take that approach and come out and say the wall won't work and the Democrats are completely right. In the end we might be able to back door this thing and get that border security wall built by default after all.

                                Reverse the resist mentality to get what is needed. Dwight you may be on to something here.
                                If trump wanted money for border security..upgrading what we have instead of just building a dumbass wall then he woulda got funding a long time ago zero issues
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                                • JIBBBY
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-10-09
                                  • 83686

                                  #891
                                  Originally posted by Venom72
                                  If trump wanted money for border security..upgrading what we have instead of just building a dumbass wall then he woulda got funding a long time ago zero issues
                                  Dumb ass wall ok.. Tell that to the Country of Israel.. We have 22 million illegals in America today and most of them just walked across in the middle of the night..

                                  Walls don't work completely but they absolutely do help. Dems should give Trump the funding and just end this stupid debate.. Congress should also fix our broken immigration laws which are more important then the wall..

                                  Politics always gets in the way on both sides with every President Republican or Democratic and I hate it all Venom, that's keeping it real... ..

                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-23-18, 07:22 PM.
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                                  • Venom72
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-05-16
                                    • 2041

                                    #892
                                    Jibbs you saying the wall wont help completely and we need to fix immgration laws which are more important than said wall, that my friend is real talk and im with you on that, and also i agree red vs blue gets in the way of so much shit, the two party system imo is bullshit and would love to see it end
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83686

                                      #893
                                      Originally posted by Venom72
                                      Jibbs you saying the wall wont help completely and we need to fix immgration laws which are more important than said wall, that my friend is real talk and im with you on that, and also i agree red vs blue gets in the way of so much shit, the two party system imo is bullshit and would love to see it end
                                      Well said Venom and I'm glad we can agree on this.
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                                      • sjm5122
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-22-08
                                        • 4213

                                        #894
                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                        That's a special kind of stupid. Obama's economy was so weak the fed lowered interest rates to 0%. Trump is paying for that with 6 increases and counting.

                                        2018 will be the first time in over a decade the economy grew over 3%. Never came close to that under Obama.
                                        I don’t even care to argue what influence Trump actually does have on the current state of the stock market, but weren’t you earlier this year predicting new ATH’s and the benefits of the tax bill? Wasn’t Trump constantly taking credit for the stock market when it was doing well? Has Trump addressed the market at all since it has tanked?
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                                        • d2bets
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 39995

                                          #895
                                          Originally posted by sjm5122
                                          I don’t even care to argue what influence Trump actually does have on the current state of the stock market, but weren’t you earlier this year predicting new ATH’s and the benefits of the tax bill? Wasn’t Trump constantly taking credit for the stock market when it was doing well? Has Trump addressed the market at all since it has tanked?
                                          Frankly, better if he keeps his mouth shut during the Trump Slump.
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                                          • Shafted69
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-04-08
                                            • 6412

                                            #896
                                            So tired of all this winning. LOL!
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                                            • RoyBacon
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-21-05
                                              • 37074

                                              #897
                                              Originally posted by sjm5122
                                              I don’t even care to argue what influence Trump actually does have on the current state of the stock market, but weren’t you earlier this year predicting new ATH’s and the benefits of the tax bill? Wasn’t Trump constantly taking credit for the stock market when it was doing well? Has Trump addressed the market at all since it has tanked?
                                              He has been trying his best to talk some sense into the Fed.

                                              The market is fine. Buy all you can. But stocks are a marathon and this dip will be nothing more than a blip on the chart in hindsight.
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                                              • sjm5122
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-22-08
                                                • 4213

                                                #898
                                                Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                He has been trying his best to talk some sense into the Fed.

                                                The market is fine. Buy all you can. But stocks are a marathon and this dip will be nothing more than a blip on the chart in hindsight.
                                                I agree with your last point, but I am not so sure on the first.

                                                You have to admit that it doesn’t reflect well on Trump to be taking credit for the gains and then blaming the fed for the losses, right?
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                                                • shadymcgrady
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-27-12
                                                  • 10036

                                                  #899
                                                  Abandon ship on hopes for the market. I never thought I'd say that I've got a better shot here betting sports at making money than with the market. I'd cry but tears don't pay bills
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    • 09-02-10
                                                    • 36915

                                                    #900
                                                    shady only repubs market did well while repub. president was in office was reagan and poppa bush. The reason was because of slush fund called social security. So if you leave it alone you will be fine unless company goes out of business. could be 4 to 12 years. You only lose if you sell. For once bacon is right. but like that broke clock...maybe twice in our lifetime. Get netflicks and watch gommorah sp. something to do to ease the pain.
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                                                    • ByeShea
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-30-08
                                                      • 8093

                                                      #901
                                                      Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                                                      now as president he managed to turn a booming economy into a recession
                                                      Booming economy into a recession? Come clean, MushroomStamp - are you a Russian bot?

                                                      * U. Michigan: December '18: Consumer confidence is up 2.5% from last year, now at a 58 year high.

                                                      * On Friday the quarterly GDP revised to 3.4% growth
                                                      * American Manufacturing confidence is absurd right now, a survey of 540 firms indicate 90% of them intend to raise worker pay over the next year by higher than average historical growth. That is excellent for the American worker.

                                                      Not that I necessarily believe it 100%, but in Dec the Fed indicated they've raised rates for the last time for time being. Keep in mind they've been consistently raising rates to temper the markets.

                                                      This stuff above is 100% not recession. They'll slaughter the market in December and boom it in January, it's been done over and over and over in the past - bank on it when we have sound economic fundamentals. Just watch.
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                                                      • RoyBacon
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                                                        • 09-21-05
                                                        • 37074

                                                        #902
                                                        Originally posted by sjm5122
                                                        I agree with your last point, but I am not so sure on the first.

                                                        You have to admit that it doesn’t reflect well on Trump to be taking credit for the gains and then blaming the fed for the losses, right?
                                                        Trump would have been smart to not comment on the stock market. We are about to close the best year economically in a long, long time.
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                                                        • sjm5122
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-22-08
                                                          • 4213

                                                          #903
                                                          Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                          Trump would have been smart to not comment on the stock market. We are about to close the best year economically in a long, long time.
                                                          I don't always agree with everything you post, but the fact you can even admit to Trump not being some infallible genius sets you apart from many others on here.
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                                                          • ByeShea
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-30-08
                                                            • 8093

                                                            #904
                                                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                            Trump could say tomorrow "Walls don't work! They are a waste of money!", and guys like Pavyracer will tell everyone how great walls are and that you are an idiot to think they don't work.
                                                            'Twas only a year ago ... who can say the number won't go higher and the mission won't creep more?





                                                            So it was 2000 troops then, never crept higher - and he got us out. And just like most of his moves ... actions taken based on his campaign promises.
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                                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-24-10
                                                              • 65084

                                                              #905
                                                              Trump is only true American left...maybe Rand Paul as well


                                                              Why dont democrats AND republicans see this


                                                              I think the Trump primary voters are the enlightened ones
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                                                              • vitterd
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 09-14-17
                                                                • 58460

                                                                #906
                                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                Trump is only true American left...maybe Rand Paul as well


                                                                Why dont democrats AND republicans see this


                                                                I think the Trump primary voters are the enlightened ones
                                                                Lmao. Trump doesn’t care about America or anyone in America....he cares for himself only. The biggest con artist in history.
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                                                                • ByeShea
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                                  • 8093

                                                                  #907
                                                                  Originally posted by vitterd
                                                                  Lmao. Trump doesn’t care about America or anyone in America....he cares for himself only. The biggest con artist in history.
                                                                  Hillary never made more than $200k per annum in her life. Her net worth? $250 million.

                                                                  Get off it, pal.
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                                                                  • RoyBacon
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                                                                    • 09-21-05
                                                                    • 37074

                                                                    #908
                                                                    Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                                    Hillary never made more than $200k per annum in her life. Her net worth? $250 million.

                                                                    Get off it, pal.
                                                                    It's a fvvk of a lot more than that. That pay to play scam was one of the most profitable scams in history.
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                                                                    • vitterd
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 09-14-17
                                                                      • 58460

                                                                      #909
                                                                      Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                                      Hillary never made more than $200k per annum in her life. Her net worth? $250 million.

                                                                      Get off it, pal.
                                                                      Uh ok....so what does that have to do with Trump?
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                                                                      • Venom72
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 10-05-16
                                                                        • 2041

                                                                        #910
                                                                        Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                                        Hillary never made more than $200k per annum in her life. Her net worth? $250 million.

                                                                        Get off it, pal.
                                                                        Whats that got to do with trump not giving a fuk about anyone?
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