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  • KRIT
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    • 01-11-14
    • 12878

    #841
    Can someone explain the market crash to me. When explaining, try to explain it like you would to a 10 year old, that's how much I know about this. I've lost over 7k just this month. I'm guessing this is all on Trump. Where is OP at? Trump supporters could always point to the economy, but not the case now.
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    • pavyracer
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      • 04-12-07
      • 82732

      #842
      Originally posted by KRIT
      Can someone explain the market crash to me. When explaining, try to explain it like you would to a 10 year old, that's how much I know about this. I've lost over 7k just this month. I'm guessing this is all on Trump. Where is OP at? Trump supporters could always point to the economy, but not the case now.
      About 3 weeks ago Trump tweeted that he had a deal with China to end the tariff war. The market got ready for the ride up. Then a couple days later China said what deal is Trump talking about? The market realized Trump was lying. Then Trump said he is a tariff man! Then the market started deflating from its bubble. The market doesn't like uncertainty from a US President.
      Last edited by pavyracer; 12-22-18, 03:42 PM.
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      • grease lightnin
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        • 10-01-12
        • 16015

        #843
        Krit, investors are worried that the economy can’t handle rising interest rates, and the trade war, so they are selling.
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        • Grits n' Gravy
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          • 06-10-10
          • 13024

          #844
          Originally posted by DwightShrute
          failure is part of success. The most successful people are those that failed more than most. That's because they take chances. Try it.

          Try something .... I dunno .... a chef for instance. Make a dish people will love and give you money to eat it. I bet you will fail several times before you get it right.

          It's common knowledge. I thought.
          when you fail every single time as Trump has it isn’t success, it is called failing. Trump does it with other people’s money and yells the loudest in the room so idiots such as yourself, Roy, brooks etc...think he is successful. He is no different than the carny barker for a 3 card monte game.
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          • DwightShrute
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            • 01-17-09
            • 103102

            #845
            Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
            when you fail every single time as Trump has it isn’t success, it is called failing. Trump does it with other people’s money and yells the loudest in the room so idiots such as yourself, Roy, brooks etc...think he is successful. He is no different than the carny barker for a 3 card monte game.
            You are making shit up. Again

            He's a billionaire, the most powerful man in the world and has done several great things as president.

            What have you done even remotely close to that level of success? Keep in mind, character assassinations and fabricating fake news narratives on a anonymous forum is an accomplishment of any sorts.
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            • vitterd
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              • 09-14-17
              • 58460

              #846
              Originally posted by DwightShrute
              You are making shit up. Again

              He's a billionaire, the most powerful man in the world and has done several great things as president.

              What have you done even remotely close to that level of success? Keep in mind, character assassinations and fabricating fake news narratives on a anonymous forum is an accomplishment of any sorts.
              He’s not even a millionaire these days. Guy is a fraud con man. Worst president in history.
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              • RudyRuetigger
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                • 08-24-10
                • 65084

                #847
                guys quit arguing politics

                thanks
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                • SportsMushroom
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                  • 09-28-10
                  • 4177

                  #848
                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                  You are making shit up. Again

                  He's a billionaire, the most powerful man in the world and has done several great things as president.

                  What have you done even remotely close to that level of success? Keep in mind, character assassinations and fabricating fake news narratives on a anonymous forum is an accomplishment of any sorts.
                  by that logic, obama is also successful and has achieved more than you ever will

                  but yet you cant stop trashing him


                  anyhow, trump is not successful, he squandered his huge inheritance, he bankrupted a lot of businesses and defrauded a lot of investors and customers

                  now as president he managed to turn a booming economy into a recession, has dismantled legislation and neutered departments that protected the people, has alienated all allies, has withdrawn from multiple international agreements unilaterally, making the u.s. signature worth absolutely nothing, and as time will show, he is using the presidency to enrich himself
                  Last edited by SportsMushroom; 12-22-18, 07:40 PM.
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                  • Thrilla
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                    • 03-10-15
                    • 13809

                    #849
                    22 dec. 2018
                    The Dow suffers its deepest weekly plunge since 2008 and the Nasdaq is officially in a bear market. The miserable performance reflects deepening fears on Wall Street of an economic slowdown and overly-aggressive Federal Reserve.

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                    • DwightShrute
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                      • 01-17-09
                      • 103102

                      #850
                      Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                      by that logic, obama is also successful and has achieved more than you ever will

                      but yet you cant stop trashing him


                      anyhow, trump is not successful, he squandered his huge inheritance, he bankrupted a lot of businesses and defrauded a lot of investors and customers

                      now as president he managed to turn a booming economy into a recession, has dismantled legislation and neutered departments that protected the people, has alienated all allies, has withdrawn from multiple international agreements unilaterally, making the u.s. signature worth absolutely nothing, and as time will show, he is using the presidency to enrich himself
                      where do you come up with this stuff?

                      Obama took over after the subprime mortgage meltdown. An old pair of runners would had seen an economic increase. What did Obama actually do to improve the economy? Solyndra? Largest tax hike in history? The 800 billion stimulus and all those shovel ready jobs? He did penetrate all for 8 years. Then claimed credit for all the gains in 2017 and 2018 until now when its come back down. Now he's gone into hiding lol. Ya the market goes up and down.

                      Millions of businesses go bankrupt. And yes, when they do, other will lose money also. No laws were broken. Obama spent 10 trillion of your dollars and got nothing out of it. He screwed over the Ukraine, Poland and Czech's. He passed a failed healthcare bill before anyone had a chance to read it and force people to buy it or face a fine. Funny people call Trump a fascist. Obama went into Syria and did nothing but spend $ and cost lives. Trump decimated ISIS is less than 2 years. Obama went to a baseball game in Cuba with Castro, gave a 150 billion to Iran and allowed men to pee in girl bathrooms. Wow impressive.

                      Trump has done more in 2 years then Obama in 8. The market will go back up. The fed didn't increase rates like they are doing now when Obama was fundraising and smoking Newports.

                      You hate your country, its obvious. That's ok. The TV tells you Trump is bad and you choose to believe it.

                      Smart people know better.
                      Last edited by DwightShrute; 12-22-18, 08:15 PM.
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                      • jt315
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                        • 11-12-11
                        • 21868

                        #851
                        Originally posted by vitterd
                        He’s not even a millionaire these days. Guy is a fraud con man. Worst president in history.
                        Neither are you . Although you play one on the internet fraud .
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                        • vitterd
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                          • 09-14-17
                          • 58460

                          #852
                          Originally posted by jt315
                          Neither are you . Although you play one on the internet fraud .
                          I’ve been confirmed and verified.....he hasn’t.

                          10 years later you’re still so jealous of what I have. Life has winners and losers. I’m a winner.....guess what you are.

                          Take your fat ass back to rx with your sheriff joe ghosts.....you add nothing to every forum you slink into.
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                          • jt315
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                            • 11-12-11
                            • 21868

                            #853
                            Originally posted by vitterd
                            I’ve been confirmed and verified.....he hasn’t.

                            10 years later you’re still so jealous of what I have. Life has winners and losers. I’m a winner.....guess what you are.

                            Take your fat ass back to rx with your sheriff joe ghosts.....you add nothing to every forum you slink into.
                            Keep stroking yourself with that fairy tale ya midget .
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                            • pavyracer
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                              • 04-12-07
                              • 82732

                              #854
                              January 20 2009 - Dow Jones closed at 7949.09 - Obama's Inaugaration.

                              January 20 2017 - Dow Jones closed at 19827.25 - Trump's Inaugaration.

                              December 22 2018 - Dow Jones closed at 22445.37

                              Obama in 8 years Dow Jones increased 250%

                              Trump in 2 years Dow Jones increased 13%

                              Obama grew the economy 20 times more than Trump
                              Last edited by pavyracer; 12-22-18, 08:25 PM.
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                              • DwightShrute
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                                • 01-17-09
                                • 103102

                                #855
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                January 20 2009 - Dow Jones closed at 7949.09 - Obama's Inaugaration.

                                January 20 2017 - Dow Jones closed at 19827.25 - Trump's Inaugaration.

                                December 22 2018 - Dow Jones Closed 22445.37

                                Obama in 8 years Dow Jones increased 250%

                                Trump in 2 years Dow Jones increased 13%

                                Obama grew the economy 20 times more than Trump
                                fake news.
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                                • vitterd
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                                  • 09-14-17
                                  • 58460

                                  #856
                                  Originally posted by jt315
                                  Keep stroking yourself with that fairy tale ya midget .
                                  6’2 midget lmao.

                                  Can you ever get anything right? Decades of being wrong. This is why you’re king mush.
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                                  • RoyBacon
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                                    • 09-21-05
                                    • 37074

                                    #857
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    January 20 2009 - Dow Jones closed at 7949.09 - Obama's Inaugaration.

                                    January 20 2017 - Dow Jones closed at 19827.25 - Trump's Inaugaration.

                                    December 22 2018 - Dow Jones closed at 22445.37

                                    Obama in 8 years Dow Jones increased 250%

                                    Trump in 2 years Dow Jones increased 13%

                                    Obama grew the economy 20 times more than Trump
                                    That's a special kind of stupid. Obama's economy was so weak the fed lowered interest rates to 0%. Trump is paying for that with 6 increases and counting.

                                    2018 will be the first time in over a decade the economy grew over 3%. Never came close to that under Obama.
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                                    • DwightShrute
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                                      • 01-17-09
                                      • 103102

                                      #858
                                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                      That's a special kind of stupid. Obama's economy was so weak the fed lowered interest rates to 0%. Trump is paying for that with 6 increases and counting.

                                      2018 will be the first time in over a decade the economy grew over 3%. Never came close to that under Obama.
                                      also, The Fed spent 75 million a month of taxpayer money into the market

                                      Fed to Spend $600 Billion to Speed Up Recovery - The New York Times
                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/b...omy/04fed.html
                                      Nov 3, 2010 - The Fed's move is an effort to nurture a fragile recovery ahead of battles ... with a bold but risky plan to pump $600 billion into the banking system. ... and accelerated by President Obama— as a symbol of government ... Still, the pace — $75 billion a month for eight months
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                                      • GUMMO77
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                                        • 08-23-10
                                        • 9294

                                        #859
                                        Market is great!

                                        Wall being built!!

                                        The government is running smoothly!!!

                                        MAGA!!!!
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                                        • pavyracer
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                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82732

                                          #860
                                          Trump stayed in Washington due to government shutdown. They can't fly Airforce One to Mar-A-Lago. Melania is flying back to White House tonight on commercial airline so she can spend Christmas with Scrooge.
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                                          • DwightShrute
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                                            • 01-17-09
                                            • 103102

                                            #861


                                            TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME

                                            A mental dysfunction causing those detractors with hateful thoughts and feelings about Donald Trump to go unhinged.
                                            The great thing about Donald Trump becoming the next President of the United States is a lot of those establishment folks who suffer Trump Derangement Syndrome will go insane.



                                            Trump stayed in Washington due to government shutdown. They can't fly Airforce One to Mar-A-Lago. Melania is flying back to White House tonight on commercial airline so she can spend Christmas with Scrooge.
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                                            • Venom72
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                                              • 10-05-16
                                              • 2041

                                              #862
                                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                              That's a special kind of stupid. Obama's economy was so weak the fed lowered interest rates to 0%. Trump is paying for that with 6 increases and counting.

                                              2018 will be the first time in over a decade the economy grew over 3%. Never came close to that under Obama.
                                              Fake news, obama waa great,donald dipshit is trash
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                                              • gauchojake
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                                                • 09-17-10
                                                • 34109

                                                #863
                                                Trump is fukking up a complete layup with tariffs and wall bullshit.
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                                                • rkelly110
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                                                  • 10-05-09
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                                                  #864
                                                  Originally posted by KRIT
                                                  Can someone explain the market crash to me. When explaining, try to explain it like you would to a 10 year old, that's how much I know about this. I've lost over 7k just this month. I'm guessing this is all on Trump. Where is OP at? Trump supporters could always point to the economy, but not the case now.
                                                  Do you have a managed 401k? If not, you should've moved your money from stocks to stable value funds when the
                                                  market dropped 1k points. Now you're fuked.
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                                                  • DwightShrute
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                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                    • 103102

                                                    #865
                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                    Do you have a managed 401k? If not, you should've moved your money from stocks to stable value funds when the
                                                    market dropped 1k points. Now you're fuked.


                                                    dildo sniffer advice
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                                                    • grease lightnin
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                                                      • 10-01-12
                                                      • 16015

                                                      #866
                                                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                      Do you have a managed 401k? If not, you should've moved your money from stocks to stable value funds when the
                                                      market dropped 1k points. Now you're fuked.

                                                      Rkelly do you you think the market will ever get back to previous highs?
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                                                      • d2bets
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                                                        #867
                                                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                        Rkelly do you you think the market will ever get back to previous highs?
                                                        Do you say "ever" literally? Unless Trump gets us all nuked, obviously that's a yes. But if it's 20* years from now, that's not much comfort.





                                                        * I don't believe that's what it will be, just saying.
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                                                        • DwightShrute
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                                                          • 01-17-09
                                                          • 103102

                                                          #868
                                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                                          Do you say "ever" literally? Unless Trump gets us all nuked, obviously that's a yes. But if it's 20* years from now, that's not much comfort.





                                                          * I don't believe that's what it will be, just saying.
                                                          OMG WTF?

                                                          Stock market always goes up and down. Surely this isn't news to you? Surely you have heard the term "diversification"? If you have all your eggs in one basket (in the stock market) and you are almost at retirement, then you are a fukking idiot anyways. This is rule #1 in financial planning.
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                                                          • RoyBacon
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                                                            • 09-21-05
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                                                            #869
                                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                                            Do you say "ever" literally? Unless Trump gets us all nuked, obviously that's a yes. But if it's 20* years from now, that's not much comfort.





                                                            * I don't believe that's what it will be, just saying.
                                                            20 years lol.

                                                            This time in 12 months maybe sooner.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 83686

                                                              #870
                                                              Alot of gloom and doom in this thread.. Makes me want to shoot myself..

                                                              Trump and America winning.. Stock tumble is just a small glitch in the matrix.. Order will be restored shortly, economy is not tanking under this President trust me on this.. We just are witnessing panic sell offs.. It happens from time to time, part of the stock market cycle..

                                                              When people start getting laid off and businesses start closing all across America then talk to me.. That's not happening.
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                                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                                • 01-17-09
                                                                • 103102

                                                                #871
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                Alot of gloom and doom in this thread.. Makes me want to shoot myself..

                                                                Trump and America winning.. Stock tumble is just a small glitch in the matrix.. Order will be restored shortly, economy is not tanking under this President trust me on this.. We just are witnessing panic sell offs.. It happens from time to time, part of the stock market cycle..

                                                                When people start getting laid off and businesses start closing all across America then talk to me.. That's not happening.
                                                                remember the meltdown when he was a few minutes late to meet the Queen? The 2 scoops of ice cream fiasco? That's all you need to know about how totally unhinged the Left is.
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                                  • 83686

                                                                  #872
                                                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                  remember the meltdown when he was a few minutes late to meet the Queen? The 2 scoops of ice cream fiasco? That's all you need to know about how totally unhinged the Left is.
                                                                  Melania's shoes and Fashion Jacket you forgot to mention as well..
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                                                                  • guitarjosh
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                                                                    • 12-25-07
                                                                    • 5786

                                                                    #873
                                                                    One thing people in this thread are missing is that while the US markets are down ytd, most developed world markets are down much more that we are.
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
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                                                                      • 01-17-09
                                                                      • 103102

                                                                      #874
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      Melania's shoes and Fashion Jacket you forgot to mention as well..
                                                                      omg she was so insensitive. Remember when Trump threw a pack of paper towels? They lost their shit. Or when the press pretended Trump insulted the Japanese PM by dumping the Koi food in the pond?

                                                                      We can go on for hundreds of post about all the fake news and fake outrage the Left has been unhinged about
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                                                                      • grease lightnin
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                                                                        • 10-01-12
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                                                                        #875
                                                                        Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                        One thing people in this thread are missing is that while the US markets are down ytd, most developed world markets are down much more that we are.
                                                                        Ytd, but not qtd
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