Need some help here on fair/foul balls

[RudyRuetigger]

Let's say guy hits ball in air...inside 3rd base line

ball is still in the air though

hits left fielder in the glove (in FAIR territory)

it bounces off of him, and the first place it touches is the ground in FOUL territory

is this fair or foul?

[Cuse0323]

Fair

[Shute]

Fair

[Shute]

Maybe foul if at the Ohio State Fair and on that wicked ride though

[Cuse0323]

Maybe foul if at the Ohio State Fair and on that wicked ride though

Happy 2000th post. Great one to cap it off.

[RudyRuetigger]

no offense

but waiting for more respectable opinions

like chi archie

[Cuse0323]

Read up Rudes.

http://baseball-rules.com/fairfoul.htm

[RudyRuetigger]

here is my real question


Why is a ball that hits someone and goes over the fence considered a home run then and not a ground rule double???

[RudyRuetigger]

or maybe every blooper I saw was wrong and they didn't reward it a homerun?

[Jayvegas420]

Its called a repitch.
Quite common.
Player returns the ball to the ump who hands it to the pitcher & they resume play at the original count.

Your welcome rudy.

[Cuse0323]

here is my real question


Why is a ball that hits someone and goes over the fence considered a home run then and not a ground rule double???

Never hits the ground. No different than an outfielder trying to take away a homer, but he can't keep it in his glove and it goes over.

[RudyRuetigger]

Its called a repitch.
Quite common.
Player returns the ball to the ump who hands it to the pitcher & they resume play at the original count.

Your welcome rudy.

really?

so it is actually foul?

that makes more sense but not what I thought

[RudyRuetigger]

Never hits the ground. No different than an outfielder trying to take away a homer, but he can't keep it in his glove and it goes over.

no that's way different pal, because it was over the fence



in my scenario there are 2 examples where a ball hit in the field of play off of someone

in 1 scenario you call it in play and not foul, in other it is called home run...that does not make sense

[funnyb25]

Speaking of balls...brb shower...long day...shower, gym, rinse off, work, beat off, now shower again

[Cuse0323]

no that's way different pal, because it was over the fence



in my scenario there are 2 examples where a ball hit in the field of play off of someone

in 1 scenario you call it in play and not foul, in other it is called home run...that does not make sense

You asked two different questions. When it goes off of someone over the outfield fence in fair territory, then it's a homerun. Not really in the field of play anymore. Pretty simple. Off of someone in fair territory, but goes into foul territory it's still in play.

[RudyRuetigger]

You asked two different questions. When it goes off of someone over the outfield fence in fair territory, then it's a homerun. Not really in the field of play anymore. Pretty simple.

no bro

I am talking about it bouncing off someones head when its clear as day it should've been in the field of play

[Cuse0323]

Ma must of drank, and bounced you on your head one too many times, if you don't get it.

[RudyRuetigger]

Ma must of drank, and bounced you on your head one too many times, if you don't get it.

bro ive been completely nice with you and I was going to honor my word...but how are you this fukkin dumb?


no fukkin shit if you drop a ball that is over the fence it is a homerun




in my scenario I asked

1. if a ball hits someone in fair territory and lands foul, is that fair or foul...you said fair
2. if a ball hits someone in fair territory but goes over the fence...is that a ground rule double or a homerun


you've provided absolutely no evidence

[MinnesotaFats]

no bro

I am talking about it bouncing off someones head when its clear as day it should've been in the field of play

The determination of the Canseco play is that the ball is still in play after hitting him. He was in fair territory hence the play continues...until the point at which it cleared the fence, thus becoming a home run.

A fielder attempting a put out, on a live ball, in the field of play, who makes contact with the live ball has by extension made the ball live, regardless where it lands.

The question isn't about fair or foul, it's about live ball versus dead ball, and all balls past the infield are considered live unless they touch foul territory prior to making contact (with the ground, a fielder or a fan) in fair territory.

In the infield a ball may land in foul territory and still roll fair, up to the poibt of the corner bases. That is why on bunts you often see fielders swat away the slow rolling foul ball away into foul territory, or catcher jump on balls hit in the dirt behind the plate that bounce forward for an easy out.

[RangeFinder]

A batted ball in fair territory, in the air, that touches or bounces off a fielders glove without coming in contact with the ground, that goes over the outfield fence is considered a homerun. Any batted ball that touches the ground in fair territory, regardless if it touches a player or glove, is considered a ground rule double.

Any ball that is touched in fair territory, whether on the ground or in the air, and then flies or rolls in foul territory, is considered a live ball and fair.

Any ground ball that is touched in foul territory before in rolls into fair territory, is considered a foul ball.

Any fly ball caught in foul territory is an out and considered a live ball.

[funnyb25]

Just hit the motherphucker over the wall on the fly and there is no controversy

I do not see what is so hard about this...

[RudyRuetigger]

guys I had to not only pose the question

I had to not only give the exact wordage

but I also had to post a youtube video

yes I know what the rules are

but WHY would that be the rule?

I mean rangefinder did give the exact rule although it wasn't quoted or referenced.

2 scenarios I gave, the exact opposite is used for the definition

[RudyRuetigger]

2 scenarios I gave, the exact opposite is used for the definition

by this I mean

1 scenario we say, ok that shit hit in the baseball field so its fair

1 scenario we say, no way bro that shit didn't hit the field yet so lets see if homerun


absolutely fukkin dumb

[El Nino]

by this I mean

1 scenario we say, ok that shit hit in the baseball field so its fair

1 scenario we say, no way bro that shit didn't hit the field yet so lets see if homerun


absolutely fukkin dumb

Rudy, the thing that matters is as soon as the ball is touched in fair territory, it is LIVE. It is live when it is touched fair and rolls foul, it is live when it hits a player's head/glove and ends up in the seats.

[MinnesotaFats]

Rudy, the thing that matters is as soon as the ball is touched in fair territory, it is LIVE. It is live when it is touched fair and rolls foul, it is live when it hits a player's head/glove and ends up in the seats.

This.

Live ball versus Dead ball.

The fence is arbitrary in baseball. In theory the field extends indefinitely between the poles.

[RudyRuetigger]

Rudy, the thing that matters is as soon as the ball is touched in fair territory, it is LIVE. It is live when it is touched fair and rolls foul, it is live when it hits a player's head/glove and ends up in the seats.

you almost convinced me, and I'm not saying that as a smartass

seems to me that's a ground rule double though as it is, as you say LIVE at the point of contact

[RudyRuetigger]

This.

Live ball versus Dead ball.

The fence is arbitrary in baseball. In theory the field extends indefinitely between the poles.

then why do we have a fence that short??





separate topic...if a guy jumps over the fence, both feet in the stands. catches the ball...is that a homerun or out?

[RudyRuetigger]

then why do we have a fence that short??





separate topic...if a guy jumps over the fence, both feet in the stands. catches the ball...is that a homerun or out?

guys don't google the question and then form it as your own opinion

I clearly know what other people say about this since I also have google

[RangeFinder]

Homerun. The ball left the field of play at that point.

[RudyRuetigger]

Homerun. The ball left the field of play at that point.

good, tell this guy he is clueless

This.

Live ball versus Dead ball.

The fence is arbitrary in baseball. In theory the field extends indefinitely between the poles.

[RangeFinder]

good, tell this guy he is clueless

Minnesota, that was a clueless statement.

How's that?

[RudyRuetigger]

Minnesota, that was a clueless statement.

How's that?

I'm starting to like you

if you had said the 3rd line was clueless I would've given you my 18yr old virgin daughter than is 8/10

[RangeFinder]

I'm starting to like you

if you had said the 3rd line was clueless I would've given you my 18yr old virgin daughter than is 8/10

Way too young. Not a perv.

[RudyRuetigger]

The determination of the Canseco play is that the ball is still in play after hitting him. He was in fair territory hence the play continues...until the point at which it cleared the fence, thus becoming a home run.

A fielder attempting a put out, on a live ball, in the field of play, who makes contact with the live ball has by extension made the ball live, regardless where it lands.

The question isn't about fair or foul, it's about live ball versus dead ball, and all balls past the infield are considered live unless they touch foul territory prior to making contact (with the ground, a fielder or a fan) in fair territory.

In the infield a ball may land in foul territory and still roll fair, up to the poibt of the corner bases. That is why on bunts you often see fielders swat away the slow rolling foul ball away into foul territory, or catcher jump on balls hit in the dirt behind the plate that bounce forward for an easy out.

this was a better post that I missed


what I quoted earlier, you are way off though

[El Nino]

you almost convinced me, and I'm not saying that as a smartass

seems to me that's a ground rule double though as it is, as you say LIVE at the point of contact

Negative. The fair/foul rule tells you that a ball is live and in play. The ground rule double is a seperate rule for a batted fair ball that exits the grounds, not on the fly, therefore, not being a HR. The player's head/equipment is not a part of the GROUNDS. A player may cause the ball to leave on the fly and that is a HR. Just as a player can take away a HR for an out for a ball that is over the wall and past it if caught on the fly and his body remains in the grounds.