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  • brainfreeze
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    #5076
    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
    Yo khicks...I was randomly watching a TYT video the other day and reading the comments it seems like many of their followers are really pissed off and upset that they sold out

    I assume you're a big follower of them.....I don't watch them enough to know what the people in the comments were talking about....what specifically are they referring to?
    Wow...lol, lots of people unsubing. I never liked that show from the start, little info with a lot of crap..knew something was wrong there, and here it is, tyt pushing for establishment...
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    • DwightShrute
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      #5077
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      • khicks26
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        #5078
        Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
        Yeah that's the exact video I was watching....one of the guys I haven't seen much on the Young Turks was a complete douche, even to the other hosts on there. I guess it was Ben Mankiewicz

        I still don't see why a real progressive would ever side with Hillary, even over Trump....But that's up to each person to decide
        Yeah that was him. Even the other hosts looked at him like WTF? Julian Assange is a hero to many on the show.

        Mankiewicz is one of the guys that I feel has been with Hilary from the start.
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        • Jayvegas420
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          #5079
          He could throw the kids into the fire and gain 2 points in the polls
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          • JIBBBY
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            • 12-10-09
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            #5080
            Originally posted by Thor4140
            i just explained to u why i have difficulty posting on this site u jitbag. Did u fail to read it chicken boy?
            Well buy a home computer you cheap bastard!!! Always excuses..
            Last edited by JIBBBY; 08-17-16, 12:44 AM.
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            • khicks26
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              #5081
              Originally posted by brainfreeze
              Wow...lol, lots of people unsubing. I never liked that show from the start, little info with a lot of crap..knew something was wrong there, and here it is, tyt pushing for establishment...
              Yeah Breitbart & Fox News in much more credible. LOL
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              • MoneyLineDawg
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                #5082
                Originally posted by khicks26
                Yeah that was him. Even the other hosts looked at him like WTF? Julian Assange is a hero to many on the show.

                Mankiewicz is one of the guys that I feel has been with Hilary from the start.
                Yeah it definitely seems like it.....the younger guy with the buzz cut was getting pissed off but didn't want to argue

                The hot girl was also getting upset

                Mankiewicz came across as a complete shill on that one video so you're probably right.....
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                • The Kraken
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                  #5083
                  So...

                  liberals are arguing that the republican nominee is an undercover democrat and was planted as a mole throw the presidential election

                  And Republicans are saying the democratic nominee is akin to George W. Bush, she's actually a neocon and certainly not a progressive or liberal



                  Unreal boys

                  We've got all bases covered

                  And just in case it turns out that its all rigged and the fix is in, we've got MoneyShot cocering that angle
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                  • MoneyLineDawg
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                    • 01-01-09
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                    #5084
                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                    So...

                    liberals are arguing that the republican nominee is an undercover liberal and was planted as a mole to either throw the presidential election, or if he gets elected, then basically we elected a liberal

                    And Republicans are saying the democratic nominee is akin to George W. Bush, she's actually a neocon and certainly not a progressive or liberal



                    Unreal boys

                    We've got all bases covered

                    And just in case it turns out that its all rigged and the fix is in, we've got MoneyShot cocering that angle
                    Not a Republican and have never voted for an R President and yes I definitely believe Hillary is very similar to Dubya

                    Many Republicans have endorsed her. It could be because GOP stalwarts are terrified of Donald Trump. Or it could be that her policies align with theirs


                    Kraken please read that and you can also google Hillary Neo-con for a ton more

                    But overall your post is pretty funny lol I must admit
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                    • DwightShrute
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                      #5085
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                      • JIBBBY
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                        #5086
                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                        You are so full of shit Jibby. Nitrogen did exactly what people were doing to u in the MMA threads and u came up with the same bullshit lies. That is how everyone knew u were in no way a MMA writer. Fuking Pathetic bullshitter.
                        Right just keep tailing me in MMA and winning money like I know you have done for years now.. You still have never posted ONE SINGLE PENDING BET in the mma section since I've been on SBR.. Why don't you take off your mini skirt for once and post a pending play? Contribute for once something positive... I dare you Thor..

                        Oh and thanks for not bringing this garbage onto the UFC event threads.. Atleast you are showing some class at times.. Still a dirt bag troll with nothing to offer on this forum but rude comments... Would be nice to see you get a life and treat people with respect.. I know I've earned it in the MMA section over the years have you?..
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                        • khicks26
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                          #5087
                          Originally posted by The Kraken
                          So...

                          liberals are arguing that the republican nominee is an undercover democrat and was planted as a mole throw the presidential election

                          And Republicans are saying the democratic nominee is akin to George W. Bush, she's actually a neocon and certainly not a progressive or liberal



                          Unreal boys

                          We've got all bases covered

                          And just in case it turns out that its all rigged and the fix is in, we've got MoneyShot cocering that angle

                          LOL I know it sounds crazy. But would it really surprise you that much if its all true. I mean Donald Trump is running for president. Bet you didn't think that would happen either.
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                          • MoneyLineDawg
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                            #5088
                            Originally posted by khicks26
                            LOL I know it sounds crazy. But would it really surprise you that much if its all true. I mean Donald Trump is running for president. Bet you didn't think that would happen either.
                            Am I way off base for thinking Hillary is a neo-con or atleast has many views that she has in common with them?

                            Do you believe she is a true liberal or progressive? I say not even close
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                            • Russian Rocket
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                              #5089
                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                              So...

                              liberals are arguing that the republican nominee is an undercover democrat and was planted as a mole throw the presidential election

                              And Republicans are saying the democratic nominee is akin to George W. Bush, she's actually a neocon and certainly not a progressive or liberal



                              Unreal boys

                              We've got all bases covered

                              And just in case it turns out that its all rigged and the fix is in, we've got MoneyShot cocering that angle
                              this shit is too funny
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                              • khicks26
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                                #5090
                                Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                Am I way off base for thinking Hillary is a neo-con or atleast has many views that she has in common with them?

                                Do you believe she is a true liberal or progressive? I say not even close
                                No not at all. In fact its true, Robert Kagan is fund raising for her. IMO she has been a Neo-Con for a long time.

                                Last edited by khicks26; 08-17-16, 01:01 AM.
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  #5091
                                  Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                  Am I way off base for thinking Hillary is a neo-con or atleast has many views that she has in common with them?

                                  Do you believe she is a true liberal or progressive? I say not even close
                                  Hard to tell what Hillary is? Everything that comes out her mouth you have to question or is a lie. I would actually be pleasantly surprised if she did get elected and showed more grit and balls then Obama did...

                                  She loves BLM, she wants to open borders and let in everyone with open arms and citizenship, she wants to piss on Russia and Putin just because she got exposed with Bernie, she's in tight with Arab Countries and leaders which is scary.. She seems lazy and unmotivated in every thing she does in office.. Etc.. Etc..

                                  Hard to get a read on Hillary I agree!!!!!

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                                  • khicks26
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                                    #5092
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                                    • brainfreeze
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                                      #5093
                                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                      Really? You're a Christian yet you call for nukes? I think you need to reevaluate
                                      I won't reevaluate but I will clarify .. Strongholds where this type of " jihadi " behavior is acceptable should be blown off the face of the earth..I'm sick of terrorism man, I've been hearing about it since 01' and a lot of good people have now passed or are living without body parts because of it. I want what all American people should want, real people getting to the bottom of it, and good loving people, that even call themselves " moderate " muslim leaders should be calling for reformation of the koran, that people can't be acting on things that are taken out of that book..

                                      Its been 15 years though since 9/11 .. And since then numerous other attacks have happened around the world. There is a majority that are being influenced " by something " out of that book. If you chop the words which are the head of that snake ... Followed by some carpet bombs on strongholds or something maybe we get some where..other then that, we will see where we are in 2030...
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                                      • Triple_D_Bet
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                                        #5094
                                        Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                        Fair enough man...The people in power want to keep the elections just as they are...
                                        Aint that the truth! The sad thing is the politicians are the only ones behaving rationally: they want power, they take rational steps to achieve it and keep it....none of which would be possible if people asked themselves the simple question, "How is he/she gonna do that?"


                                        Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                        I won't reevaluate but I will clarify .. Strongholds where this type of " jihadi " behavior is acceptable should be blown off the face of the earth..I'm sick of terrorism man, I've been hearing about it since 01' and a lot of good people have now passed or are living without body parts because of it. I want what all American people should want, real people getting to the bottom of it, and good loving people, that even call themselves " moderate " muslim leaders should be calling for reformation of the koran, that people can't be acting on things that are taken out of that book..

                                        Its been 15 years though since 9/11 .. And since then numerous other attacks have happened around the world. There is a majority that are being influenced " by something " out of that book. If you chop the words which are the head of that snake ... Followed by some carpet bombs on strongholds or something maybe we get some where..other then that, we will see where we are in 2030...
                                        The source of terrorism isn't a complicated mystery, and there's no shortage of terrorism experts trying to explain it to the public: terrorists want to kill us because we killed their friends/family/countrymen, ruined their countries, etc. There are far more innocent men, women and children killed as 'collateral damage' or just plain mistakes than their are American/European injuries or deaths.

                                        Religion isn't a root cause of it; like any belief system, there are a few nut jobs who favor violent interpretations...policies like what you're advocating do nothing but make it easier for them to recruit people. It wouldn't matter if the whole region converted to Christianity tomorrow; they'd still be fighting us for revenge and/or to take back control of their homes.
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                                        • JIBBBY
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                                          #5095
                                          Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                          I won't reevaluate but I will clarify .. Strongholds where this type of " jihadi " behavior is acceptable should be blown off the face of the earth..I'm sick of terrorism man, I've been hearing about it since 01' and a lot of good people have now passed or are living without body parts because of it. I want what all American people should want, real people getting to the bottom of it, and good loving people, that even call themselves " moderate " muslim leaders should be calling for reformation of the koran, that people can't be acting on things that are taken out of that book..

                                          Its been 15 years though since 9/11 .. And since then numerous other attacks have happened around the world. There is a majority that are being influenced " by something " out of that book. If you chop the words which are the head of that snake ... Followed by some carpet bombs on strongholds or something maybe we get some where..other then that, we will see where we are in 2030...
                                          Agreed, in Radical Islam they want to kill us and it isn't just a couple of crazy's either, it's hundreds of thousands. The Radical Islamic State is filled with hate toward Westerners, it's just that simple... They want to kill us because we are not conforming to their ways or beliefs and are not Muslims..

                                          It's not because we are bombing and killing their family and fellow Muslims either like TrippleDbet said in the above post.. We are the infidels and it's their duty under their God to destroy us..

                                          It's them or us now, they can't be reasoned with, they can't be negotiated down.. The only thing stopping ISIS from killing us today is that we can't be reached yet, they don't have long range Nukes yet, and they are still battling in their own home lands.. Give it time to build up and we could see that change..
                                          Last edited by JIBBBY; 08-17-16, 09:24 AM.
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                                          • chico2663
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                                            #5096
                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                            Agreed, in Radical Islam they want to kill us and it isn't just a couple of crazy's either, it's hundreds of thousands. The Radical Islamic State is filled with hate toward Westerners, it's just that simple... They want to kill us because we are not conforming to their ways or beliefs and are not Muslims..

                                            It's not because we are bombing and killing their family and fellow Muslims either like TrippleDbet said in the above post.. We are the infidels and it's their duty under their God to destroy us..

                                            It's them or us now, they can't be reasoned with, they can't be negotiated down.. The only thing stopping ISIS from killing us today is that we can't be reached yet, they don't have long range Nukes yet, and they are still battling in their own home lands.. Give it time to build up and we could see that change..
                                            So you disagree with Ron Paul when he says we have been meddling in their affairs since the 50's. Killing their family in the name of spreading our philosophy?
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                                            • ByeShea
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                                              #5097
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              The Radical Islamic State is filled with hate toward Westerners, it's just that simple... They want to kill us because we are not conforming to their ways or beliefs and are not Muslims.
                                              In a nutshell, the radical Islamics believe that parts (mecca, etc.) of Saudi Arabia are a holy land. And one of their main tenets was to overthrow the House of Saud after they cut a deal with the western coalition (led by the US) to use Saudi Arabia as a military base to halt Saddam Hussein from rolling in there and taking over, like he did in Kuwait.

                                              That was seen as unholy traitorous behavior on the part of the Saudis (who just wanted defense from Saddam). Bin Laden's Al Qaeda wanted to lead the defense against Saddam (would have not ended well). All the US and the west wanted was for the oil markets to function normally.

                                              Arab butt heads started it all.
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #5098
                                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                                So you disagree with Ron Paul when he says we have been meddling in their affairs since the 50's. Killing their family in the name of spreading our philosophy?
                                                No we did that too.. Still doesn't take away from the fact that their warped radical Muslim ideologies conflict with our way of life which fuels their hatred toward us the most....
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                                                • Triple_D_Bet
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                                                  #5099
                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                  Agreed, in Radical Islam they want to kill us and it isn't just a couple of crazy's either, it's hundreds of thousands. The Radical Islamic State is filled with hate toward Westerners, it's just that simple... They want to kill us because we are not conforming to their ways or beliefs and are not Muslims..

                                                  It's not because we are bombing and killing their family and fellow Muslims either like TrippleDbet said in the above post.. We are the infidels and it's their duty under their God to destroy us..

                                                  It's them or us now, they can't be reasoned with, they can't be negotiated down.. The only thing stopping ISIS from killing us today is that we can't be reached yet, they don't have long range Nukes yet, and they are still battling in their own home lands.. Give it time to build up and we could see that change..
                                                  Lots of folks believe the same thing you do, but the evidence and experts tell a different story. Unfortunately, acting on the ignorance you've displayed here makes the problem worse, and keeps saddling us with warmongering incompetents like Clinton and Trump
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    #5100
                                                    Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                    Lots of folks believe the same thing you do, but the evidence and experts tell a different story. Unfortunately, acting on the ignorance you've displayed here makes the problem worse, and keeps saddling us with warmongering incompetents like Clinton and Trump

                                                    Right so when the suicide bombers scream ALLAHU AKBAR (God is greater) right before they blow themselves up and everyone around them in airports they are doing it because Westerners are drone striking and meddling in their home land affairs only..

                                                    Use common sense you numb skull.. Watch what's going on in the news.. Thinking we can get along with Radical Islam by leaving them alone will get you killed.. I suggest you read up on ISIS and Radical Islam and how it continues to expand world wide more before posting.. Study up on their agendas and beliefs.

                                                    I'm not a war mongrel as I hate war.. I just don't want innocent people to get blown to bits anymore or planes flown into buildings, bombs going off in crowded places and killing fellow Americans and or European friends., assault weapons being used on unarmed civilians.... Etc.. Etc.. That needs to stop...
                                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 08-17-16, 11:16 AM.
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                                                    • chico2663
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                                                      #5101
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      Right so when the suicide bombers scream ALLAHU AKBAR (God is greater) right before they blow themselves up and everyone around them in airports they are doing it because Westerners are drone striking and meddling in their home land affairs only..

                                                      Use common sense you numb skull.. Watch what's going on in the news.. Thinking we can get along with Radical Islam by leaving them alone will get you killed.. I suggest you read up on ISIS and Radical Islam and how it continues to expand world wide more before posting.. Study up on their agendas and beliefs.

                                                      I'm not a war mongrel as I hate war.. I just don't want innocent people to get blown to bits anymore or planes flown into buildings, bombs going off in crowded places and killing fellow Americans and or European friends., assault weapons being used on unarmed civilians.... Etc.. Etc.. That needs to stop...
                                                      Well I have slept with a couple of muslim women who stated allah akbar when I was drilling for oil. I was blown but still alive. Go get some of that arabian nookie and maybe jibbs you'll get out of the fear of muslims. They can yell that shit all they want but as long as not on this continent than I could care less.
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                                                      • khicks26
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                                                        #5102
                                                        Originally posted by chico2663
                                                        Well I have slept with a couple of muslim women who stated allah akbar when I was drilling for oil. I was blown but still alive. Go get some of that arabian nookie and maybe jibbs you'll get out of the fear of muslims. They can yell that shit all they want but as long as not on this continent than I could care less.
                                                        LOL
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                                                        • Russian Rocket
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                                                          #5103
                                                          After watching this video, do we really need to say anything else about Hillary's character? Probably not.

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                                                          • DwightShrute
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                                                            #5104
                                                            Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                                            After watching this video, do we really need to say anything else about Hillary's character? Probably not.

                                                            game set match
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                                                            • brainfreeze
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                                                              #5105
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              Right so when the suicide bombers scream ALLAHU AKBAR (God is greater) right before they blow themselves up and everyone around them in airports they are doing it because Westerners are drone striking and meddling in their home land affairs only..

                                                              Use common sense you numb skull.. Watch what's going on in the news.. Thinking we can get along with Radical Islam by leaving them alone will get you killed.. I suggest you read up on ISIS and Radical Islam and how it continues to expand world wide more before posting.. Study up on their agendas and beliefs.

                                                              I'm not a war mongrel as I hate war.. I just don't want innocent people to get blown to bits anymore or planes flown into buildings, bombs going off in crowded places and killing fellow Americans and or European friends., assault weapons being used on unarmed civilians.... Etc.. Etc.. That needs to stop...
                                                              I agree with what you say here, and if they want to blame someone, it needs to STOP being innocent people..maybe then that thought of " they're just getting back at us " could be taken more seriously (little to late for that now). clintons and bush are living comfortably taking private jets while they blow up themselves at airport terminals killing innocent people and walk into clubs killing 50 ... I'm not buying what trippers selling here either... It's not because of " us " it's because of their radical ideas that have been straight out of their book (in context) ...they want to take over the world ..
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                                                              • Thor4140
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                                                                #5106
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                Right just keep tailing me in MMA and winning money like I know you have done for years now.. You still have never posted ONE SINGLE PENDING BET in the mma section since I've been on SBR.. Why don't you take off your mini skirt for once and post a pending play? Contribute for once something positive... I dare you Thor..

                                                                Oh and thanks for not bringing this garbage onto the UFC event threads.. Atleast you are showing some class at times.. Still a dirt bag troll with nothing to offer on this forum but rude comments... Would be nice to see you get a life and treat people with respect.. I know I've earned it in the MMA section over the years have you?..

                                                                Dude stop the bullshitting already ok. U were dead broke three weeks ago in desperation mode. Nobody in their right mind would tail you but dopes who just found this site and see u won the last two cards.
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                                                                • Thor4140
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                                                                  #5107
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  Right just keep tailing me in MMA and winning money like I know you have done for years now.. You still have never posted ONE SINGLE PENDING BET in the mma section since I've been on SBR.. Why don't you take off your mini skirt for once and post a pending play? Contribute for once something positive... I dare you Thor..

                                                                  Oh and thanks for not bringing this garbage onto the UFC event threads.. Atleast you are showing some class at times.. Still a dirt bag troll with nothing to offer on this forum but rude comments... Would be nice to see you get a life and treat people with respect.. I know I've earned it in the MMA section over the years have you?..

                                                                  Now shut your mouth and i will go away. Im aware im not gonna stop ur outright lying. There are only two people over there that i would even consider tailing a bet and one sure the hell isnt u.
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                                                                  • brainfreeze
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                                                                    #5108
                                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                    Disagree both aired and on CNN and FOX earlier live.. Over now and both stations are talking about it..

                                                                    Funny I don't see Hillary coverage AT ALL with live speeches because she never does them.. Lazy women, lazy President if elected..
                                                                    That was a good speech in Wisconsin.. Wow, he really highlighted how hillary is offering nothing to the black voters and how she automatically thinks she will get their vote, I think he's right... Then topping the whole speech off with " God bless " .. Hope for Donald after all ...

                                                                    There was a part where he said " you need a fighter in the White House " and said I will fight for you, and it felt like he almost said I will die for you (the American people) instead he said I will win for you .. I truly believe he would try to do both, guys a patriot ...
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                                                                    • brainfreeze
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                                                                      #5109
                                                                      Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                      Well I have slept with a couple of muslim women who stated allah akbar when I was drilling for oil. I was blown but still alive. Go get some of that arabian nookie and maybe jibbs you'll get out of the fear of muslims. They can yell that shit all they want but as long as not on this continent than I could care less.
                                                                      You do need prayer after all...
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                                                                      • Thor4140
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                                                                        #5110
                                                                        Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                                        Yeah that's the exact video I was watching....one of the guys I haven't seen much on the Young Turks was a complete douche, even to the other hosts on there. I guess it was Ben Mankiewicz

                                                                        I still don't see why a real progressive would ever side with Hillary, even over Trump....But that's up to each person to decide
                                                                        I want to respond to u because i respect your opinion but im short on time and this is brutal posting and having to fix everything i write because something is going haywire with what i post. Okay maybe it is not this time as i just peeked up and saw everything is posting like it should. U made me realize why i dislike Hillary and it was that vote on Iraq. The reason she did it tho is not because she is a neo-con but she did it for political reasons. At that time everyone was pumping their chest and being anti war wasn't the thing to do, cause the chicken hawks would have laid into her and this is a fact. That was if everything turned out like the first war. This is no way an excuse for her. I find it despicable and weak to do something like this. Do i think she is Liberal absolute not. Bernie was Liberal. Like Bill Maher says "the democrats moved right and the right moved to the insane-asylum." I would post more on this but im really pressed for time.
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