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  • bettilimbroke999
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    #141
    Originally posted by grease lightnin
    Can you rephrase this? It is very unclear.


    Edit: wait, I get it. I don't have hope for the government. I have hope for people. That they will innovate and grow. I have hope for the economy. I believe ultimately Americans (not the govt) will work to solve our problems.
    What if the problem IS the government...lemme axe you something were you for the Iraq war....I mean who was? Who thought invading and occupying some country that had done nothing to us and was threatening no one that we could eliminate in 5 seconds if they ever got out of line was worth spending 5 trillion destroying? Our government already has almost dictatorial control...we're fighting to bring democracy to Iraq...when the penetrate do WE get democracy? When is the will of the ppl respected by OUR OWN government...the VAST MAJORITY of Americans both Republicans, sane Democrats and Independents believe in enforcing immigration laws and legal immigration...if enforcing immigration laws were put to an actual vote BY the American ppl it would be at least 90/10 in favor of enforcing them. Virtually NO ONE supports illegal immigration BUT OF COURSE if Donald Trump says he'll enforce immigration laws hes a racist and hateful and blah blah blah blah
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    • Killer_Demo
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      #142
      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
      I have been to California many times....every major city....California to me is like an entirely different country with different values than the rest of the country...the results of which have proven devastating to the state. The state government is drowning in debt the city governments are all either bankrupt or drowning in debt despite the tax rate being by far the highest in the nation and the unemployment rate is through the roof (3rd highest unemployment rate). The # of unemployed in California is larger than the populations of Nevada, New Hampshire and Vermont combined. Despite the fact that California's teachers are by far the highest paid in the nation California students rank 48th in math and 49th in reading.

      Businesses would be crazy to set themselves up in California as they'd be taxed right into bankruptcy....when it comes to new business creation California (unsurpisingly) ranks dead last.

      Crime in cities like Oakland and LA is at epidemic levels...thinking back to a camera crew that literally got robbed of their camera equipment while trying to film the scene of a robbery for the news in Oakland.

      The rich (the only ones who can afford to live in California without applying for welfare) are fleeing the states ever-increasing skyhigh tax you to death system in droves....the illegals (non-English speaking criminals and welfare abusers) who are dead broke flood in to replace them...since near zero of the non-criminals could ever hope to make enough to support themselves there of course its automatic welfare for life for them and their kids. California is a populus state with 12% of the US population living there....but contains 33% of Americans receiving TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families)....60% of students attending public schools qualify for free or reduced-price lunches.

      California's response? Pour gas on the fire....not only do the same mistakes as always but double down on them...increase taxes to near communist levels...this is actually the biggest lesson to learn for the rest of America...you cant just increase taxes over and over and over and over as the answer to everything...bc eventually businesses simply get the penetrate out!

      Californias seem to only worry about one thing FAGS (perhaps they are biased since SF and the rest of the state has so many)...if you're a f\*g then head to California and get AIDS (though the pharmacy in that state may run out of AIDS drugs with all the fags that live there). The legislature and population (except for the exiting rich) doesn't give a shit about it's unbelievable deficit, crime rate, unemployment rate, destroyed public education system....but if you're a f\*g it's the place to be....you could give some guy a rim job on the subway and if someone said that's disgusting are you crazy they would probably be arrested for a hate crime....if you like a big AIDS filled rooster shoved up your ass California is the state for you.

      The rest of America take note of California's mistakes and its results...decide if you want that for your state and the rest of the country....we know of course overwhelmingly how California will vote in November....if your economic future is as a welfare abuser bankrupting your city/state/country and your political concerns are only about fags being able to piss allover the women's toilet rather than having to suffer through using the men's room you should vote likewise or better yet for the rest of us just move to California and expedite its total collapse as a lesson to the other 49 states.
      Broke dikk.
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      • bettilimbroke999
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        #143
        Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
        Ah Jesus, really? Great points until you went all John Rocker. This is why conservatives lose credibility all the time -- the universe thinks they're a bunch of hate-mongers, and too often somebody comes along and proves them all right. Anyway, CA not the gay mecca it once was. Saying SF is a gay hub is about 20 years past its prime. SF is a homeless hub now. I will say that I don't think gays for the most part are very wise on political issues unless they directly affect them. Like most people on the left, they don't understand that your area not having any money quickly starts turning your area into a shit hole. They're more about human rights, which is important too, but you can't put all of your focus in one area like that. Or else this happens.

        I do love to visit California, but I agree that it's FUBAR at this point because it takes an educated voter base to turn things around, and CA will never have that ever again.
        Lol John Rocker

        "Riding the subway sittin next to some 20 year old single mom with 4 kids next to some f\*g with AIDS"....hmmm ok I see your point fair enough....fair enough.

        Look I dont care if fags do whatever they want to each other I just am sick of hearing about em all the time like this is a nation of fruits and most of this coverage is on whatever the penetrate is goin on in California. I am sick and penetrating tired of Californians endlessly filling the news with debates like which bathroom and shower some psycho crossdressing f\*g should use LIKE ITS AN ACTUAL penetrating ISSUE...ITS NOT ITS penetrating NOT...NO ONE CARES ABOUT THAT ISSUE. Look Caitlyn Jenner is one of the only penetrating crossdressing fags to forget he was a guy in the penetrating world there were no crossdressing fags when I was in school and as an adult I have seen like one crossdressing f\*g in my life...he was shopping in Wal-Mart....and when the odds are stacked like penetrating 20 million to 1 you dont make laws to inconvenience the 20 million...but in California you'd think it was like ending racial segregation. Look maybe pissing allover the table in restaurants is more comfortable for me than using the toilet but if 20 million ppl believe in pissing in the toilet for every 1 table pisser I'll go along with majority rule and suffer through their discrimination and piss in the toilet.
        Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-11-16, 03:41 AM.
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        • grease lightnin
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          #144
          Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
          What if the problem IS the government...lemme axe you something were you for the Iraq war....I mean who was? Who thought invading and occupying some country that had done nothing to us and was threatening no one that we could eliminate in 5 seconds if they ever got out of line was worth spending 5 trillion destroying? Our government already has almost dictatorial control...we're fighting to bring democracy to Iraq...when the penetrate do WE get democracy? When is the will of the ppl respected by OUR OWN government...the VAST MAJORITY of Americans both Republicans, sane Democrats and Independents believe in enforcing immigration laws and legal immigration...if enforcing immigration laws were put to an actual vote BY the American ppl it would be at least 90/10 in favor of enforcing them. Virtually NO ONE supports illegal immigration BUT OF COURSE if Donald Trump says he'll enforce immigration laws hes a racist and hateful and blah blah blah blah


          I said I don't hold out hope for the government, I have hope in PEOPLE. Read my post.

          Our govt is for the people, by the people. Sure, there is corruption, it is flawed, significantly flawed, but we still rule with our votes. However ridiculous Trump's rise is.... is it not proof that the people have control?
          Last edited by grease lightnin; 06-11-16, 09:59 AM.
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          • chico2663
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            #145
            Originally posted by frogsrangers
            I laugh when retard armchair economists think taxing marijuana is the solution to all economic problems. First of all pot smokers are worthless forms of life who are drains on society. I laugh when people make that their #1 issue. We have a bad economy and politicians who don't know what they are doing but we have morons like you who are single issue voters and only care about weed.

            Second, you actually think the revenue raised from taxing marijuana will go to paying down the debt? No penetrating way. It will go to expanding existing government handout programs and creating new ones to get even more people dependent on the public dole.
            tell that to colorado. they have went from having issues as 30 th to the 22nd best country in fiscal responsibility. as opposed to kansas who went from 16th to 26th using reaganonmics. also on a map i seen shows that california is 44th. maybe if you could of told steve jobs the laziness of pot smoking he would still be alive.
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            • chico2663
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              #146
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              • chico2663
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                #147
                i guess kasich was lying to everyone when he said ohio was doing good.
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                • chico2663
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                  #148
                  wow
                  Last edited by chico2663; 06-11-16, 04:02 PM.
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                  • chico2663
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                    #149
                    this hows we have 16 straight years of dogshit
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                    • chico2663
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                      #150
                      why anyone bitching about clinton is an idiot.
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                      • chico2663
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                        #151
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                        • chico2663
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                          #152
                          notice the difference under clinton.
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                            #153
                            but broke and brooks referred to as FACTS DON'T MATTER! will tell you what a P.O.S. clinton was. but between you and i. I would rather have a chubby jewish girl than a fat ugly hillary smoking my pole!
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by frogsrangers
                              I laugh when retard armchair economists think taxing marijuana is the solution to all economic problems. First of all pot smokers are worthless forms of life who are drains on society. I laugh when people make that their #1 issue. We have a bad economy and politicians who don't know what they are doing but we have morons like you who are single issue voters and only care about weed.

                              Second, you actually think the revenue raised from taxing marijuana will go to paying down the debt? No penetrating way. It will go to expanding existing government handout programs and creating new ones to get even more people dependent on the public dole.
                              you could be right because our govt loves spending our money and giving themselves raises.
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                              • grease lightnin
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                i guess kasich was lying to everyone when he said ohio was doing good.
                                Do you know which state Ohio is? OH is ranked 11th
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                                • bettilimbroke999
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                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by chico2663
                                  Nice map of the Democrat and Republican states from the last election but you got the red states backward....oh sorry map of fiscal irresponsibility my bad...look at the west and Northeast...they are redder than a fuckin apple is that good or bad? Well at least the interior blue states like Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin are doing good....oh my bad they're terrible ok well nice map

                                  Remember the Democrat motto....as long as we can borrow money and file bankruptcies we're doing good....we believe in people and that somehow someone will eventually solve all the massive problems we're creating (apparently future ppl are great problem solvers and current ppl are great problem causers so it works out perfect)....now raise my welfare!
                                  Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-11-16, 06:18 PM.
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                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                    Do you know which state Ohio is? OH is ranked 11th
                                    my eyes are so bad but i guess kasich spent my 500 wisely
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                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                      Do you know which state Ohio is? OH is ranked 11th
                                      yes i live there from 3 -52. i should of put my glasses on. i will give you 10 points when my cubs bet comes in.
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                        Nice map of the Democrat and Republican states from the last election but you got the red states backward....oh sorry map of fiscal irresponsibility my bad...look at the west and Northeast...they are redder than a fuckin apple is that good or bad? Well at least the interior blue states like Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin are doing good....oh my bad terrible well ok nice map

                                        Remember the Democrat motto....as long as we can borrow money and file bankruptcies we're doing good....we believe in people and that somehow someone will eventually solve all the massive problems we're creating (apparently future ppl are great problem solvers and current ppl are great problem causers so it works out perfect)....now raise my welfare!
                                        dear mister facts don't matter. michigan gov repub rick snyder,wisconsin scott walker repub, illinois gov. bruce rauner repub.
                                        yes got to like that republican mantra. if we tax the middleclass and poor but take away fro the upper class. maybe they will give us a kickback
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                                          #160
                                          let see how well that gov of mich. he put the city of flint in receivership.took away water contract from regular carrier. was offered by city of detroit to supply at cheaper rate but said NO . Then he gave the water contract to someone for a kickback. Had water brought in for city workers but not for the people. Ignores complaints for 2 years. when shit hits the fan bitches cause the govt. didn't what he considered was ENOUGH money. The reason the cites were broke was because he took away money from cities budget to build new stadium . i think it was 6 billion.
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                                            #161
                                            THERE maybe more minorities or democrats but they don't vote. if democrats voted than a republican would never be voted in office.
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                                              #162

                                              please read mr facts don't matter
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                                              • Ralphie Halves
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                                dear mister facts don't matter. michigan gov repub rick snyder,wisconsin scott walker repub, illinois gov. bruce rauner repub.
                                                yes got to like that republican mantra. if we tax the middleclass and poor but take away fro the upper class. maybe they will give us a kickback
                                                Well, let's take a look.



                                                Bottom 10 states

                                                50 - CT - Blue State
                                                49 - MA - Blue
                                                48 - NJ - Blue
                                                47 - IL - Blue
                                                46 - KY - Red
                                                45 - HI - Blue
                                                44 - CA - Blue
                                                43 - ME - Blue
                                                42 - NY Blue
                                                41 - DE - Blue
                                                40 - WV - Red

                                                Best 10 states

                                                1 - AK - Red
                                                2 - NE - Red
                                                3 - WY - Red (has been both in recent years)
                                                4 - ND - Red
                                                5 - SD - Red
                                                6 - FL - Blue
                                                7 - UT - Red
                                                8 - OK - Red
                                                9 - TN - Red
                                                10 - MT - Red

                                                Pretty damning. We're a capitalist nation in its highest form. You end up with those who make it and those who don't. Placing your money on the latter instead of the former gives you what you see here. Governors are only a piece of the puzzle.

                                                I'm not anti-poor, but I think a rising tide lifts all ships, and allowing business to thrive instead of choking them off and making them leave is the key to success. Seeing these maps makes that hard to argue against.
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                                                  #164
                                                  ​10 states which rely on govt money the most
                                                  1 m
                                                  i mississippi
                                                  2 new mexico
                                                  3alabama
                                                  4 louisiana
                                                  5tennessee
                                                  6montana
                                                  7south dakata
                                                  8kentucky
                                                  9west virginia
                                                  10missouri


                                                  http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/10-states-most-dependent-on-the-federal-government.html/?a=viewall
                                                  Last edited by chico2663; 06-11-16, 07:14 PM.
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                                                  • bettilimbroke999
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                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                                    Do I really have to respond to this bullshit....are you really THAT penetrating stupid?

                                                    Blacks make up 12% of the US population but 33% of the ppl on welfare....now you got a state like Mississippi that is around 40% black can you extrapolate you fucktarded moron....are you sayin that whites should kick out the black citizens to lower the % of ppl on welfare? penetrates sakes why do the morons argue with me....why did God create such fucktarded morons....yea it's the Republicans in Mississippi getting all the welfare chico ur right what was I thinking....fuckin misinformed uneducated
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                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                                                      Well, let's take a look.



                                                      Bottom 10 states

                                                      50 - CT - Blue State
                                                      49 - MA - Blue
                                                      48 - NJ - Blue
                                                      47 - IL - Blue
                                                      46 - KY - Red
                                                      45 - HI - Blue
                                                      44 - CA - Blue
                                                      43 - ME - Blue
                                                      42 - NY Blue
                                                      41 - DE - Blue
                                                      40 - WV - Red

                                                      Best 10 states

                                                      1 - AK - Red
                                                      2 - NE - Red
                                                      3 - WY - Red (has been both in recent years)
                                                      4 - ND - Red
                                                      5 - SD - Red
                                                      6 - FL - Blue
                                                      7 - UT - Red
                                                      8 - OK - Red
                                                      9 - TN - Red
                                                      10 - MT - Red

                                                      Pretty damning. We're a capitalist nation in its highest form. You end up with those who make it and those who don't. Placing your money on the latter instead of the former gives you what you see here. Governors are only a piece of the puzzle.

                                                      I'm not anti-poor, but I think a rising tide lifts all ships, and allowing business to thrive instead of choking them off and making them leave is the key to success. Seeing these maps makes that hard to argue against.
                                                      i'll agree with you some what but lot of guys take as far as they can. they see that bush screwed up the economy (not saying whose fault) so they go to worker and say take a pay cut. then when things get better and companies have record profits; they keep it all for themselves. hell trump brags about playing the system. mark cuban states it perfectly. he bought the new jersey casinos to bankrupt them while keeping companies half of the pension fund. i keep wanting to repeat michael corleone here lol
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                                                        [QUOTE=bettilimbroke999;25857934]Do I really have to respond to this bullshit....are you really THAT penetrating stupid?

                                                        Blacks make up 12% of the US population but 33% of the ppl on welfare....now you got a state like Mississippi that is around 40% black can you extrapolate you fucktarded moron....are you sayin that whites should kick out the black citizens to lower the % of ppl on welfare? penetrates sakes why do the morons argue with me....why did God create such fucktarded morons....yea it's the Republicans in Mississippi getting all the welfare chico ur right what was I thinking....fuckin misinformed uneducated[/QUOTE
                                                        misguided one. clinton and newt cut welfare. 5 years total but only 3years consecutive. they now go on ssdi instead of a check. i can understand how you don't understand because you probably have never been around it. But i made a good living dealing with 40% of my business being in this market. Health ins.,car insurance,renters coverage ,group disability insurance, securities . i had a series 6 and 7 ,lah and p.c license working for trans american, i know what i'm talking about. but then again you think trump is lucid enough to be our president.rotflmao
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                                                          #168
                                                          Now go shine my shoes beeetch
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                                                          • bettilimbroke999
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                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by chico2663
                                                            Now go shine my shoes beeetch
                                                            Most scumbag idiots go into selling insurance and pushing "financial advice" to suckers...what did you work in a boiler room or something selling penny stocks....try personal injury law in your next life you'd be perfect for it. That reminds me a couple weeks ago my insurance agent kept calling me over and over for my "4 year" meeting....penetrating meeting my ass bitch just tried to sell me on more coverage in every single category...I wanted to run outta there like a fuckin sprinter...fuckin scumbag.
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                                                              no dumb ass google transamerican. i didn't need to sell to white trash like you. you probably didn't qualify unless you owned a business. i dealt with people that had money but my company did require me to work with poor a week out of the month
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                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                no dumb ass google transamerican. i didn't need to sell to white trash like you. you probably didn't qualify unless you owned a business. i dealt with people that had money but my company did require me to work with poor a week out of the month
                                                                probably why i paid more in taxes than u made. always got stuck paying both sides of social security and always maxed out. but trash like you the only thing offered would of been d. i.policy but no seeing you are hourly than you would of been workers comp . so once again you wouldn't qualify.
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                  no dumb ass google transamerican. i didn't need to sell to white trash like you. you probably didn't qualify unless you owned a business. i dealt with people that had money but my company did require me to work with poor a week out of the month
                                                                  I googled it and its EXACTLY what I suspected...insurance and financial advice...I mean penetrates sakes do you even know what your own job was give me a break...so you were a swindling sleezy dishonest stockbroker and insurance salesman good for you...I hope you milked ppl out of a ton of money I dont have any problem with how you made a living but if you're somehow saying that makes you of equal intelligence and education to me you've been spending too much money on coke.
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    no transamerican sells insurance to corps. that you had to google it shows what a moron you are. seeing you have no money and haven't anything of relevance to pass on shows what a moron you are. when rich people want to pass things on to their families; they usually take out a policy.
                                                                    Last edited by chico2663; 06-11-16, 08:20 PM.
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      Ya know its funny that scumbag sleezy dishonest salesmen like chico that make a living swindling ppl out of their money are so penetrating retarded they think it's bc they are intelligent and contributed something to society...in that case used car salesmen, televangelists, personal injury lawyers, boiler room stockbrokers are the geniuses of our day.

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                                                                        #175
                                                                        if they have grand children and want to fund their education than they take out annuities
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