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  • MoneyLineDawg
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    #9801
    Originally posted by jtoler
    Why should the Republican Party embrace Donald when he has democrat ideals, he's been a democrat all his life, maybe the party sees through his bs. The thing is, the rules were already in place. Donald told us long ago when asked that he'd consider running independent if things didnt go his way, lack of proper foresight is his and his team's fault, no doubt Im sure he and none of his team thought he'd make it this far with the lead he's established, but either run independent now or live with the results. The rules seem shady but they were already in place, therefore to avoid their bs just indy, dont know the rules and all for delegates and how much it would hurt him, but oh well.
    They should embrace the vote of the people....If they can't put out a real Republican candidate that can't even beat a democrat running for Republican nominee as you say, well that falls on them as a complete failure. Take ownership for your own faults

    Either let Donald and everyone else run and listen to the people or don't even have a primary and nominate your candidate....Its not fair to candidates that spend a full 2 years campaigning or the voters of your party to sabotage the guy that is the clear favorite of Republican voters across the country

    If you wanna have a system that lets anyone run then deal with the results...seems like common sense to me. Why would they even let someone like Trump run in the first place? Exactly
    Last edited by MoneyLineDawg; 04-16-16, 11:59 PM.
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    • DwightShrute
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      #9802
      Even Mitt Romney family members are voting for Trump! ‪#‎Trump2016‬





      Mitt Romney’s niece says she’s voting for Donald TRUMP




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      • jtoler
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        #9803
        Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
        They should embrace the vote of the people....If they can't put out a real Republican candidate that can't even beat a democrat running for Republican nominee as you say, well that falls on them as a complete failure. Take ownership for your own faults

        Either let Donald and everyone else run and listen to the people or don't even have a primary and nominate your candidate....Its not fair to candidates that spend a full 2 years campaigning or the voters of your party to sabotage the guy that is the clear favorite of Republican voters across the country

        If you wanna have a system that lets anyone run then deal with the results...seems like common sense to me. Why would they even let someone like Trump run in the first place? Exactly
        Youre answering the dilemma youre posing by repeatedly saying "the people". Perhaps "the people" have spoken. Donald has still yet to garner 50% in a primary unless you want to count the Northern Mariana Islands. This notion that Donald is steamrolling the competition is nonsense, he has 37% of the republican popular vote so far, far less than Romney's 63%, McCain's 47%, Bush's 62%. Why should delegates attach themselves to this guy at the disproportional rate that he and his supporters are seeking?
        Last edited by jtoler; 04-17-16, 12:27 AM.
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        • ACoochy
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          #9804
          Originally posted by jtoler
          Youre answering the dilemma youre posing by repeatedly saying "the people". Perhaps "the people" have spoken. Donald has still yet to garner 50% in a primary unless you want to count the Northern Mariana Islands. This notion that Donald is steamrolling the competition of nonsense, he has 37% of the republican popular vote so far, far less than Romney's 63%, McCain's 47%, Bush's 62%. Why should delegates attach themselves to this guy at the disproportional rate that he and his supporters are seeking?
          Watch out Toler, spelling 'you're' without the apostrophe is a capital offense around these parts ie Trumptard central.

          Expect shooter to call you out as a dumbarse shortly...
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          • jtoler
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            #9805
            Originally posted by DwightShrute
            Even Mitt Romney family members are voting for Trump! ‪#‎Trump2016‬





            Mitt Romney’s niece says she’s voting for Donald TRUMP




            Who cares what the illegitimate love child of Mitt's brother's now defunct marriage has to say.
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            • MoneyLineDawg
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              #9806
              Originally posted by jtoler
              Youre answering the dilemma youre posing by repeatedly saying "the people". Perhaps "the people" have spoken. Donald has still yet to garner 50% in a primary unless you want to count the Northern Mariana Islands. This notion that Donald is steamrolling the competition is nonsense, he has 37% of the republican popular vote so far, far less than Romney's 63%, McCain's 47%, Bush's 62%. Why should delegates attach themselves to this guy at the disproportional rate that he and his supporters are seeking?
              3 Guys are still standing....One is a complete joke winning one state, his own

              Another is hanging in there but is poised to get steamrolled in the coming weeks

              Only a fool would say that Trump is not far and away the front runner of this election....he will end the campaign with the most delegates and the popular vote and it won't be close...Gimmie a fukkin break

              If not Trump, why would Cruz or Kasich deserve it? They have their chance right here and now and aren't delivering shit compared to Trump....If you wanna give it to someone that hasn't even ran for GOP Nominee then we can go back to the whole BS behind the scenes thing

              We are going to see that Trump is the only logical choice if you wanna go by who has earned it....If you wanna take a distant 2nd or joke of a 3rd place go ahead but it makes no sense to anyone with a brain or sense of fairness
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              • jtoler
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                #9807
                Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                3 Guys are still standing....One is a complete joke winning one state, his own

                Another is hanging in there but is poised to get steamrolled in the coming weeks

                Only a fool would say that Trump is not far and away the front runner of this election....he will end the campaign with the most delegates and the popular vote and it won't be close...Gimmie a fukkin break

                If not Trump, why would Cruz or Kasich deserve it? They have their chance right here and now and aren't delivering shit compared to Trump....If you wanna give it to someone that hasn't even ran for GOP Nominee then we can go back to the whole BS behind the scenes thing

                We are going to see that Trump is the only logical choice if you wanna go by who has earned it....If you wanna take a distant 2nd or joke of a 3rd place go ahead but it makes no sense to anyone with a brain or sense of fairness
                I didnt say Cruz or Kasich deserve it they dont, but again Trump's at 37% of the popular vote and Cruz is at 28%, Donald isnt winning convincingly. Romney and McCain won rather convincingly and still got chewed up in the presidential race. There is a reason the polls show Bernie and Hillary beating Donald, perhaps this is why. Why would the GOP risk having Trump limp out there knowing what his fate will be.
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                • Otters27
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                  #9808
                  Originally posted by jtoler
                  I didnt say Cruz or Kasich deserve it they dont, but again Trump's at 37% of the popular vote and Cruz is at 28%, Donald isnt winning convincingly. Romney and McCain won rather convincingly and still got chewed up in the presidential race. There is a reason the polls show Bernie and Hillary beating Donald, perhaps this is why. Why would the GOP risk having Trump limp out there knowing what his fate will be.
                  At this point no matter who they go with their fate is doomed. They need to just give Trump a chance and try to recover for 2020.
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                  • MoneyLineDawg
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                    #9809
                    Originally posted by jtoler
                    I didnt say Cruz or Kasich deserve it they dont, but again Trump's at 37% of the popular vote and Cruz is at 28%, Donald isnt winning convincingly. Romney and McCain won rather convincingly and still got chewed up in the presidential race. There is a reason the polls show Bernie and Hillary beating Donald, perhaps this is why. Why would the GOP risk having Trump limp out there knowing what his fate will be.
                    Lets be honest...at this point anyone the GOP sends out will a heavy dog

                    If you don't take the far and away front runner because of perceived shadiness then your candidate of choice will get slaughtered. No one is switching sides for Cruz but you will see many people come over to Trump that normally vote Dem and don't like Hillary

                    With where we are now, Trump has the only shot in hell to put up a fight. His supporters WILL NOT vote for another GOP candidate

                    And regardless, the GOP needs to put out a better candidate next time around, if you don't like what the voters are telling you, then don't have a primary
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                    • Andy117
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                      #9810
                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                      Even Mitt Romney family members are voting for Trump! ‪#‎Trump2016‬





                      Mitt Romney’s niece says she’s voting for Donald TRUMP




                      Trump's own family aren't voting for him.
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                      • DwightShrute
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                        #9811
                        Originally posted by Andy117
                        Trump's own family aren't voting for him.
                        sure they are. They all said they are.
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                        • 15805
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                          #9812
                          Originally posted by jtoler
                          Youre answering the dilemma youre posing by repeatedly saying "the people". Perhaps "the people" have spoken. Donald has still yet to garner 50% in a primary unless you want to count the Northern Mariana Islands. This notion that Donald is steamrolling the competition is nonsense, he has 37% of the republican popular vote so far, far less than Romney's 63%, McCain's 47%, Bush's 62%. Why should delegates attach themselves to this guy at the disproportional rate that he and his supporters are seeking?

                          So after the NY primary Trump will have over 3 million more votes than Cruz
                          when the primaries are over he will have more than 4 million more than Cruz.
                          If he's at 37% what is Cruz at 15%.
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                          • jtoler
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                            #9813
                            Originally posted by 15805
                            So after the NY primary Trump will have over 3 million more votes than Cruz
                            when the primaries are over he will have more than 4 million more than Cruz.
                            If he's at 37% what is Cruz at 15%.
                            A very respectable 28%.
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                            • DwightShrute
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                              #9814
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                              • Andy117
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                                #9815
                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                sure they are. They all said they are.
                                Not in the NY primary.
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                                • DwightShrute
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                                  #9816
                                  Originally posted by Andy117
                                  Not in the NY primary.
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                                  • 15805
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                                    #9817
                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                    A very respectable 28%.
                                    Not after NY votes, I never knew 28% & falling was better than 37% thanks for keeping me
                                    on my toes on these matters, next time I see a batter hitting .280 I can argue that he's
                                    in a better position to win the batting title than someone hitting .370 with only 1/4 of the
                                    season left to play.

                                    Trump will win 31 states to Cruz 15 with with a little more than a handfull going to others.
                                    Trump will have around 4 million more votes by June 7 than #2. Since the primaries took
                                    over for the smoke filled rooms @ 1972 no one with such a significant lead as Trump has
                                    been denied the nomination.
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                                    • jtoler
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                                      #9818
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                                      • DwightShrute
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                                        #9819
                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                        so?
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                                        • Otters27
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                                          #9820
                                          Trump odds are going back up soooooooo slow. He is now at 1.76 at betfair. That is about -130
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                                          • 15805
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                                            #9821
                                            Originally posted by Otters27
                                            Trump odds are going back up soooooooo slow. He is now at 1.76 at betfair. That is about -130
                                            TRUMP TO WIN NOMINATION CURRENT

                                            BetOnline -150
                                            5 Dimes -140
                                            DSI -158
                                            Hollywood/Sportingbet -180
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                                            • DwightShrute
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                                              #9822
                                              Last edited by DwightShrute; 04-17-16, 03:53 PM.
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                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                #9823
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                                                • jtoler
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                                                  #9824
                                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                  so?
                                                  Well his supporters are wondering why delegates are stagnant to embrace the guy. He's risky to them.
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                                                  • DwightShrute
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                                                    #9825
                                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                                    Well his supporters are wondering why delegates are stagnant to embrace the guy. He's risky to them.
                                                    ya I get that but that's his appeal to me and millions of others. Do you believe that everything conservatives stand for is correct? Or every single issue liberal stand is the right one? Isn't that the problem with Washington? Or politics in general? No one wants to budge and thus very little gets accomplished. I think so. Hardliners on either side are the problem. Every country needs a leader. A deal maker. Who better than Trump?
                                                    Last edited by DwightShrute; 04-17-16, 10:27 PM.
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                                                    • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                      #9826
                                                      Trump is a common sense independent.....Democrats have the right idea on a lot of issues so I really don't care if Trump identifies with them in some ways

                                                      Trump is certainly a Republican where it really matters for our country though

                                                      The whole idea anyway should be for us to take the best parts of each party's ideas but obviously everything has been so fukked up between Bush and Obama that maybe we need someone like Trump to unite and listen to both sides
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                                                      • ACoochy
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                                                        #9827
                                                        Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                        Trump is a common sense independent.....Democrats have the right idea on a lot of issues so I really don't care if Trump identifies with them in some ways

                                                        Trump is certainly a Republican where it really matters for our country though

                                                        The whole idea anyway should be for us to take the best parts of each party's ideas but obviously everything has been so fukked up between Bush and Obama that maybe we need someone like Trump to unite and listen to both sides
                                                        You really think both parties can come together

                                                        Ego will ensure that never happens just as the obstructionist Reps have basically done all they can these past 8 years to block almost every bill Obama has tried to push through...

                                                        Politicians uniting for the common good

                                                        That's my laugh for the day. Cheers Dawg
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                                                        • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                          #9828
                                                          Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                          You really think both parties can come together

                                                          Ego will ensure that never happens just as the obstructionist Reps have basically done all they can these past 8 years to block almost every bill Obama has tried to push through...

                                                          Politicians uniting for the common good

                                                          That's my laugh for the day. Cheers Dawg
                                                          No I don't but it used to be that way, before I was even born I was told....it's worse now than it's ever been though says everyone

                                                          An outsider with fresh ideas is needed....I'm not going to guarantee Donald will be a great president or anything but it can't hurt to see how it goes with a business mentality approach

                                                          You hate Trump and dismiss him immediately so no need to respond but it's just my opinion
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                                                          • jtoler
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                                                            #9829
                                                            Trump = Too risky.
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                                                            • ACoochy
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                                                              #9830
                                                              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                              No I don't but it used to be that way, before I was even born I was told....it's worse now than it's ever been though says everyone

                                                              An outsider with fresh ideas is needed....I'm not going to guarantee Donald will be a great president or anything but it can't hurt to see how it goes with a business mentality approach

                                                              You hate Trump and dismiss him immediately so no need to respond but it's just my opinion
                                                              As long as capitalism and the special interest agendas that it naturally brings with it are the flavour of the day then things will never change unfortunately.

                                                              How do you think Trump got rich to begin with (besides daddys inheritance)? Keep on forgetting that he's a natural philanthropist

                                                              I could be wrong but if history is a guide then i doubt that...
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                                                              • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                                #9831
                                                                Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                Trump = Too risky.
                                                                In your opinion or you're saying that's what the GOP believes?
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                                                                • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                                  #9832
                                                                  Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                                  As long as capitalism and the special interest agendas that it naturally brings with it are the flavour of the day then things will never change unfortunately.

                                                                  How do you think Trump got rich to begin with (besides daddys inheritance)?

                                                                  I could be wrong but if history is a guide then i doubt that...
                                                                  I agree with you but Trump's seen it all and even admits how he's paid for politicians on both sides...As a business man he needs to do that because of the system in place and owes it to his shareholders

                                                                  He is out here saying that he knows what the problems are because he has seen the corruption from the corporate side of view....And he's trying the best he can to get rid of all of the political garbage and waste that goes on

                                                                  I understand some people just can't look past the way he speaks but if you can get past that he actually means well.....Hillary and Cruz are not going to change a damn thing. Atleast with Trump and Bernie we have a chance for meaningful progress. Not guaranteeing it if the system is just so far gone, but maybe we can atleast give it a chance
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                                                                  • jtoler
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                                                                    #9833
                                                                    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                                    In your opinion or you're saying that's what the GOP believes?
                                                                    The latter, but I said a while back I dont think he'd reach the number anyway and if he got selected at the convention it means he's done his fair amount of capitulation behind closed doors, I feel he's done that anyway judging by who's on his team. I havent checked the past two weeks or so but I dont think they are up at sunrise, 6 am, anymore talking about Trump negatively on CNN anymore and all day until midnight, seems its cut back alot, says alot to me. The average person voting for Trump I dont think understands why the establishment/media was so opposed to him.
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                                                                    • BadNina
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                                                                      #9834
                                                                      here is the main issue with Mr. Trump.

                                                                      1. Yes he is pulling in 35% of the vote. However, the other 65% still matter.
                                                                      2. When all the shouting, name calling and voting are over, those 65% have to be wooed.
                                                                      3. Across social media, the airwaves and in public, you have a lot of Trump supporters that seem to forget that after August, Mr. Trump needs those 65%. Instead, there is horrendous name calling, general childish behavior and threats, alienating those people. And those people aren't your GOP. They are the ones who held their noses and voted for McCain.

                                                                      The nominee needs to be someone who can gather all together to work for the common good ie defeating the lying, criminal hosebeast running on the other ticket. It could be Mr. Trump. It might not be. Should be interesting.

                                                                      of course, I also think that Obama is gonna toss the lying hosebeast under the bus and let the DOJ indict her and put Biden in at the last minute.
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                                                                      • DwightShrute
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                                                                        #9835
                                                                        Originally posted by BadNina
                                                                        here is the main issue with Mr. Trump.

                                                                        1. Yes he is pulling in 35% of the vote. However, the other 65% still matter.
                                                                        2. When all the shouting, name calling and voting are over, those 65% have to be wooed.
                                                                        3. Across social media, the airwaves and in public, you have a lot of Trump supporters that seem to forget that after August, Mr. Trump needs those 65%. Instead, there is horrendous name calling, general childish behavior and threats, alienating those people. And those people aren't your GOP. They are the ones who held their noses and voted for McCain.

                                                                        The nominee needs to be someone who can gather all together to work for the common good ie defeating the lying, criminal hosebeast running on the other ticket. It could be Mr. Trump. It might not be. Should be interesting.

                                                                        of course, I also think that Obama is gonna toss the lying hosebeast under the bus and let the DOJ indict her and put Biden in at the last minute.
                                                                        he was running against up to 17 others at one time. Now that has dwindled down to 2 he looks like he's getting around 50% in the next several states and close to 60% in NY. Plus his lead in California is increasing daily. I think he might get to the 1237.
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