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  • ArunSh
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-24-07
    • 6801

    #71
    Originally posted by SharpAngles
    Whats stopping anybody from colluding the same outcome in the final event? What if someone decides they'll spend a couple k to get a huge stack dumped to them? Or what deals which players have with each other? I'd say the crew near the top and most of the finalists will be trustworthy and I'm not worried but whats stopping it?

    Of course this is possible, but much harder to pull off logistically. It's far less likely that someone will dump in the grand finale after playing months of playing dailies just to qualify for the finale - dumping to someone in a daily (especially once that person is out of contention for 1st in the overall standings) is far less of a loss to someone than it would be for them to dump in the finale.

    And also dumping to someone in one tourney certainly does not guarantee that person victory in that tourney - the variance is obviously quite high in that regard (naturally it would help them but far from guarantee them 1st), whereas if someone gets dumped to in the dailies on a consistent basis, that would definitely give them a huge edge in regards to finishing higher in the overall standings to someone playing it straight.
    Last edited by ArunSh; 02-13-15, 04:25 PM.
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    • spider
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-21-11
      • 11378

      #72
      note to Doug/Sam9ball

      why don't you edit the list, and sort the 500 names alphabetically.
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      • stevek173
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 03-29-08
        • 27598

        #73
        +1 Spidy
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        • mikejamm
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-24-09
          • 11045

          #74
          Originally posted by ShogunRua
          While I agree with basically everything you say, I'm not necessarily sure the ultimate goal of the promo was to reward the most skilled player. Given the complaints (and lack of changes) of past finals, I think they sorta have an idea of what they are going for. I love the idea of rewarding the player with the most points at the end of the competition, but wouldn't that severely dilute the playing field in the finals days/weeks of the thing if there is already a clear winner? I'd like to think they are consciously making these types of decisions/rules instead of mindlessly throwing these things together, but who really knows.
          It wouldn't dilute the damn playing field if they paid out more than 5 fuk'in places! Look at it from this point of view. The simple solution would be to follow the consistency and same patten used on WSOP tour. Just like players travel from state to state playing in daily events, winning and "cashing" consistently in tourneys. You earn points depending on how well you finish and when the tour is over, the best player is awarded the Championship player of the year.

          The problem here, when your only awarding points for top 5, leave out tourney times that have always been there, is doesn't leave or give much incentive to regulars who have always played at certain times.

          This is not a tournament of true sbr pros who love to play here, this is a cluster fuk of too many players, forced to play for less payouts, odd times, and rewards the same lucky few with the same bullshit fuk'in software!
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          • mikejamm
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-24-09
            • 11045

            #75
            Originally posted by ArunSh


            The big problem I have with awarding it to the highest total points scorer is the possibility of cheating - imagine two people are very close near the end competing for 1st, and one person convinces other people to dump to him in a few tourneys (or puts a ghost in to dump to him for a few tourneys), etc. etc. When the award for 1st is a $10,000 seat in the Main Event, and second is peanuts by comparison, too likely something like that could happen (or someone could start cheating from the beginning in these ways even). Making it a grand finale where all players start on equal footing does at least mostly stop the motivation for trying to cheat like that. Not to say I think it's optimal, but I can certainly see how the other format might cause big problems itself in that regard.
            Originally posted by SharpAngles

            Whats stopping anybody from colluding the same outcome in the final event? What if someone decides they'll spend a couple k to get a huge stack dumped to them? Or what deals which players have with each other? I'd say the crew near the top and most of the finalists will be trustworthy and I'm not worried but whats stopping it?
            I think any cheating or colluding would easily be spotted and we all pretty much know everyone here. Unless some bullshit happens like some unknown guy coming out of nowhere and winning it. But who the fuk knows anyway. So many players here now work for sbr and I'm sure there are others who work behind the scene we don't even know about. So it would be quite easy to insert a chip dumping mole in this donk fest. As it stands right now, all sbr has to do is pick who's going the win all the river beats and you're gonna be handing that guy your chips any fuk'in way.

            I consistently see one or two players dominate at a table and win hand after hand. Not because of fuk'in skill mind you, because they get great hole cards over and over again, way beyond the definition of so called variance!
            Last edited by mikejamm; 02-14-15, 01:08 PM.
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            • Jedi Mind Picks
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-14-11
              • 669

              #76
              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
              even with my ridiculous odds, I'd be willing to trade percentages with some posters so we can potentially have a sweat of the seat winner's action at the WSOP ME.
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              • Auto Donk
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-03-13
                • 43558

                #77
                simply not raising, perhaps folding a hand to a mere min raise by a player you have a stake in despite holding aq on the bb, etc. etc. etc..... doesn't have to be an all out chip dump to collude; just giving a guy who you have a stake in a break..... folding 88 on the button when your co-stake is on the bb, for eg.....
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                • Jedi Mind Picks
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-14-11
                  • 669

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                  simply not raising, perhaps folding a hand to a mere min raise by a player you have a stake in despite holding aq on the bb, etc. etc. etc..... doesn't have to be an all out chip dump to collude; just giving a guy who you have a stake in a break..... folding 88 on the button when your co-stake is on the bb, for eg.....
                  what if we are all robots??? ever thought about that??? makes ya wonder???
                  lol we are talking about micro swaps at a small level, would never help anybody to play badly.
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                  • Auto Donk
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-03-13
                    • 43558

                    #79
                    i thought we were talking about action if you win the seat and cash in the wsop
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                    • Slanina
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-21-09
                      • 3827

                      #80
                      GameDate Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win
                      Ticket#:2779621
                      Mar 01 10:00 AM
                      Feb 15 04:21 AM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                      [64] SLANINA +16932
                      10.00 / 1693.20
                      Ticket#:2779623
                      Mar 01 10:00 AM
                      Feb 15 04:22 AM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                      [1] JAKEPEAVY21 +3500
                      10.00 / 350.00
                      Ticket#:2801346
                      Sep 01 12:00 PM
                      Mar 09 06:45 PM TNT BEAT THE PRICK 2015 WINNER
                      [2] SBR FORUM +2212
                      10.00 / 221.20
                      Ticket#:2832952
                      Apr 17 08:10 PM
                      Apr 17 05:53 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
                      [972] MINNES +160
                      ( ACTION )
                      75.00 / 120.00
                      Let's do this Jakey!
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                      • Auto Donk
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-03-13
                        • 43558

                        #81
                        ive got 10 horses in this race

                        four gluepots didn't qualify

                        1/5 (mathematically), or perhaps 1/4 to 1/3 (these ten are skilled) realistically, chance of at least pickin' up some pts
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                        • bobbywaves
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-06-08
                          • 13280

                          #82
                          Why were the wsop exotic betting odds taken down prematurely well over a month ago, with no notice given.
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                          • Jayvegas420
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-09-11
                            • 28213

                            #83
                            No one believes you were gonna bet any portion of your pizza dinners on yourself.
                            Get real dumb ass!
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                            • Auto Donk
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-03-13
                              • 43558

                              #84
                              Originally posted by bobbywaves
                              Why were the wsop exotic betting odds taken down prematurely well over a month ago, with no notice given.
                              think about it, dumbass........... those lines were posted prior to competition being held, and had calculated into them that bets might be placed on players that don't even make the show....

                              once competition started, they took them down, otherwise they'd have to update them damn near daily based on the results of each trny..... you really think someone in C.R. wants that gig???? updating lines three times per day on a bunch of donk-ass poker players on a free site??????????????

                              now, with the field set, I presume some revised lines will be posted.........
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                              • playersonly69
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-04-08
                                • 12827

                                #85
                                I have 10 points on stevek. That is the only bet that I placed
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                                • bobbywaves
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-06-08
                                  • 13280

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                  No one believes you were gonna bet any portion of your pizza dinners on yourself.
                                  Get real dumb ass!
                                  Obviously I would have bet measly 10 on myself, but wanted to wait to make sure I qualified first.

                                  Jay, I can't find your name in this top 50 tourney. Why is that chump?
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                                  • Russian Rocket
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-02-12
                                    • 43910

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                    No one believes you were gonna bet any portion of your pizza dinners on yourself.
                                    Get real dumb ass!
                                    Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                    think about it, dumbass........... those lines were posted prior to competition being held, and had calculated into them that bets might be placed on players that don't even make the show....

                                    once competition started, they took them down, otherwise they'd have to update them damn near daily based on the results of each trny..... you really think someone in C.R. wants that gig???? updating lines three times per day on a bunch of donk-ass poker players on a free site??????????????

                                    now, with the field set, I presume some revised lines will be posted.........

                                    sounds like Booby is just a dumbass
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                                    • Jayvegas420
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 03-09-11
                                      • 28213

                                      #88
                                      You're a weird, awkward, last word freak.
                                      I'm gonna end it here, for now.
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                                      • playersonly69
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-04-08
                                        • 12827

                                        #89
                                        bobby, I am sure that you will still be able to bet on yourself. And you will be able to bet more than the 10 point max that was offered for those 10 days that the lines were out. You will probably be around 30 to1 odds to win it. jakepeavy probably about 10 to 1. autodonk about 15 to 1



                                        Ticket#:2775391
                                        Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                        Feb 10 07:43 PM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                                        [113] STEVEK173 +13879
                                        10.00 / 1387.90
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                                        • Auto Donk
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-03-13
                                          • 43558

                                          #90
                                          HERE'S TEAM DONK:

                                          Ticket#:2775747 Mar 01 10:00 AM Feb 11 11:46 AM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER

                                          JAKEPEAVY21 +3500 10.00 / 350.00

                                          Ticket#:2775748

                                          JEDIMINDPICKS +6748 10.00 / 674.80

                                          Ticket#:2775749

                                          SHOGUNRUA +6399 10.00 / 639.90

                                          Ticket#:2775750

                                          GUMMO77 +6162 10.00 / 616.20

                                          Ticket#:2775752

                                          ARUNSH +7049 10.00 / 704.90

                                          Ticket#:2775753

                                          SINMIEDO +6811 10.00 / 681.10

                                          Ticket#:2775756

                                          AGGIESHAWN +15815 10.00 / 1581.50

                                          Ticket#:2775757

                                          NINJAGORN +16939 10.00 / 1693.90

                                          Ticket#:2775758

                                          DANKELLY +15311 10.00 / 1531.10

                                          Ticket#:2778188

                                          STEVEK173 +13879 10.00 / 1387.90
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                                          • spider
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-21-11
                                            • 11378

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                            think about it, dumbass........... those lines were posted prior to competition being held, and had calculated into them that bets might be placed on players that don't even make the show....

                                            once competition started, they took them down, otherwise they'd have to update them damn near daily based on the results of each trny..... you really think someone in C.R. wants that gig???? updating lines three times per day on a bunch of donk-ass poker players on a free site??????????????

                                            now, with the field set, I presume some revised lines will be posted.........
                                            the odds were taken down on 10am 3/1 --- well into the tourney, since it started on 1/19. so they were posted for the first 6 weeks of the tourney.
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                                            • playersonly69
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-04-08
                                              • 12827

                                              #92
                                              I don't know why booby didn't already bet. Hell I placed my wager on Feb 10 and you placed yours on March 1st. I think that the odds were still up until around March 10th. He had a month
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                                              • bobbywaves
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-06-08
                                                • 13280

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                think about it, dumbass........... those lines were posted prior to competition being held, and had calculated into them that bets might be placed on players that don't even make the show....

                                                once competition started, they took them down, otherwise they'd have to update them damn near daily based on the results of each trny..... you really think someone in C.R. wants that gig???? updating lines three times per day on a bunch of donk-ass poker players on a free site??????????????

                                                now, with the field set, I presume some revised lines will be posted.........
                                                You may want to get your facts str8 b4 chiming in jackass. Odds were obviously not taken down once competition started. If so, I wouldn't have bet on anyone since you don't know if they will qualify.

                                                Only ignorant donkey's such as yourself wager on players who didn't even qualify, & play fruity fortune slots in the casino. Easy to see why you're a broke dikk welcher, constantly soliciting loans.

                                                I placed 7 wagers on top leaderboard guys who would easily qualify, b4 odds were rudely taken down without notice:

                                                Ticket#:2775799
                                                Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                                Feb 11 12:28 PM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                                                [1] JAKEPEAVY21 +3500
                                                10.00 / 350.00
                                                Ticket#:2775801
                                                Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                                Feb 11 12:35 PM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                                                [20] AUTODONK +6941
                                                10.00 / 694.10
                                                Ticket#:2775802
                                                Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                                Feb 11 12:35 PM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                                                [113] STEVEK173 +13879
                                                10.00 / 1387.90
                                                Ticket#:2781393
                                                Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                                Feb 17 01:59 PM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                                                [7] GUMMO77 +6162
                                                10.00 / 616.20
                                                Ticket#:2784894
                                                Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                                Feb 21 02:03 AM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                                                [11] ARUNSH +7049
                                                10.00 / 704.90
                                                Ticket#:2788483
                                                Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                                Feb 24 03:43 PM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                                                [256] NOYEBOY +15226
                                                10.00 / 1522.60
                                                Ticket#:2791488
                                                Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                                Feb 27 02:42 PM TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER
                                                [3] SPORTFAN +7500
                                                10.00 / 750.00
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                                                • bobbywaves
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-06-08
                                                  • 13280

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                                  sounds like Booby is just a dumbass
                                                  Sounds like you're a garden variety troll who couldn't even make top 50 tourney.
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                                                  • playersonly69
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-04-08
                                                    • 12827

                                                    #95
                                                    SBR is really rooting against Stevek. I wonder how many others bet on him with that line
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                                                    • bobbywaves
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-06-08
                                                      • 13280

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                                      I'm gonna end it here, for now.
                                                      Smart, I assume you're tired of getting buried.
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                                                      • Russian Rocket
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-02-12
                                                        • 43910

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                        Sounds like you're a garden variety troll who couldn't even make top 50 tourney.
                                                        Umm...sounds like I've only played 7 times since January to occasionally kill some time....while you, my little Booby, dedicated your life to try to make it to the final tourney where you have ZERO chance to win.







                                                        One side question: When was a last time you actually



                                                        without paying?

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                                                        • bobbywaves
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-06-08
                                                          • 13280

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by playersonly69
                                                          I don't know why booby didn't already bet. Hell I placed my wager on Feb 10 and you placed yours on March 1st. I think that the odds were still up until around March 10th. He had a month
                                                          Never said I didn't bet, my bets are posted. I asked why were odds taken down without notice? Point is I would have placed more bets if SBR gave us a deadline, they only lost business on that decision.
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                                                          • Russian Rocket
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-02-12
                                                            • 43910

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                            Never said I didn't bet, my bets are posted. I asked why were odds taken down without notice? Point is I would have placed more bets if SBR gave us a deadline, they only lost business on that decision.
                                                            hahahaha...LOST BUSINESS?

                                                            you can't be serious with this shit

                                                            what business?...the imaginary coins that a fkn programmer designed and your betpoints balance that you polish every fkn day here?

                                                            GTFO...I take it back - you're not a dumbass...you're fkn clown who's lost in this world
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                                                            • bobbywaves
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-06-08
                                                              • 13280

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                                              One side question: When was a last time you actually without paying?
                                                              Last night actually.

                                                              When was the last time you polished knobs in Russian alleys? I assume last night for you as well.
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                                                              • Russian Rocket
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-02-12
                                                                • 43910

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                Last night actually.

                                                                When was the last time you polished knobs in Russian alleys? I assume last night for you as well.
                                                                unlike the neighborhood where you live - in Russia we don't have alleys with the knobs to polish
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                                                                • convick
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-03-11
                                                                  • 3954

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                  Why were the wsop exotic betting odds taken down prematurely well over a month ago, with no notice given.
                                                                  What does this date on the left here mean?

                                                                  Ticket#:2776051
                                                                  Mar 01 10:00 AM
                                                                  Feb 11 03:44 PM

                                                                  I have a couple bets and they all have the same date. That usually means a cut-off time, no?
                                                                  Looks to me like that time and date was clearly visible to everyone making the future bets and was a deadline to have in mind if you wanted to make additional bets.
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                                                                  • bobbywaves
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 05-06-08
                                                                    • 13280

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                                                    hahahaha...LOST BUSINESS?

                                                                    you can't be serious with this shit

                                                                    what business?...the imaginary coins that a fkn programmer designed and your betpoints balance that you polish every fkn day here?

                                                                    GTFO...I take it back - you're not a dumbass...you're fkn clown who's lost in this world
                                                                    Business from ignorant Donkey's, placing bets on players who didn't qualify.

                                                                    A broke dikk such as yourself, can't even afford a 10 pt bet.
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                                                                    • Russian Rocket
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-02-12
                                                                      • 43910

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                      Business from ignorant Donkey's, placing bets on players who didn't qualify.

                                                                      A broke dikk such as yourself, can't even afford a 10 pt bet.
                                                                      lost business


                                                                      what a fkn clueless tool!!!
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                                                                      • bobbywaves
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-06-08
                                                                        • 13280

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                                                        what a fkn clueless tool!!!
                                                                        Don't be so hard on yourself. Even a broke dikk like you may some day get a clue, by trolling me & learning.
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