SBR Sportsbook: Bet on WSOP Main Event Seat Winner

[TheMoneyShot]

Why are the betting limits 10 points???




There are some DAMN GOOD bets at over +15000

They do this with every exotic prop now.

Should at least go 100 maximum. Make it somewhat entertaining.

It's not even worth hitting the ENTER button for 10 points.

[bobbywaves]

You guys are making it tempting to actually get involved in this bad boy.

If your odds don't motivate you, nothing will.

[Russian Rocket]

Douglas you can safely remove this line
123 RUSSIANROCKET +16660

I've uninstalled the poker client

will be back when the old format returns

cheers!

[bobbywaves]

I've uninstalled the poker client

will be back when the old format returns

cheers!

Why was uninstalling the poker client necessary, do you lack the discipline to simply sit out?

[Russian Rocket]

Why was uninstalling the poker client necessary, do you lack the discipline to simply sit out?

no, I just don't like to keep junk apps on my machine that I don't use

[Jeffie]

Great idea sbr! Wish I had the time to play consistently to make a run. Good luck everyone cheers!!

[ArunSh]

Curious what kind of total score will be needed to make the Top 50, this format makes it much harder to estimate given how important getting 1sts is whereas in the old format, consistent cashes was just as important (if not more so).

[RudyRuetigger]

You are wasting points if you bet me

even if I started playing

even if I made top 50

even if I made final 2

id sit out and take 2nd place

[Dan Kelly]

Post Wager

WagerType:	Date:	Team:	Risking / To Win	Ticket#:
STRAIGHT BET	Mar 01	TNT WSOP MAIN EVENT SEAT WINNER [78] DANKELLY +15311	10.00 SBR / 1531.10 SBR	2775777

1. Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame
2. There should be a law stating that every baseball manager should have to bet on his own team everyday.

BOL

[Dan Kelly]

+3500? This smells like a setup for SBR to take all the Peavy bets then flip his doom switch.

Very sharp - I couldn't figure out JP's odds. If the final tourney starts tomorrow, no way JP is better than 20-1, so any extra odds at this time would be to cover if he doesn't make it into the top 50 - NO WAY that happens. A very weak line that I will take advantage of because I don't think SBR would fix it against JP - not that they couldn't if they wanted to and it is a good explanation for the bad line.


BOL

[spider]

Curious what kind of total score will be needed to make the Top 50, this format makes it much harder to estimate given how important getting 1sts is whereas in the old format, consistent cashes was just as important (if not more so).

right now with 1/4 (17 out of 70 days) of the tourney done, the cutoff point is 450 pts. so the cutoff point should be 1500-1800pts. for the final.

Jake with 2300 pts has already qualified

[mpaschal34]

right now with 1/3 (17 out of 70 days) of the tourney done, the cutoff point is 450 pts. so the cutoff point should be 1500pts for the final.

Jake with 2300 pts has already qualified

Again, Spider is providing good numbers for us. Definitely has my vote for poker moderator of the year.

[spider]

Very sharp - I couldn't figure out JP's odds. If the final tourney starts tomorrow, no way JP is better than 20-1, so any extra odds at this time would be to cover if he doesn't make it into the top 50 - NO WAY that happens. A very weak line that I will take advantage of because I don't think SBR would fix it against JP - not that they couldn't if they wanted to and it is a good explanation for the bad line.


BOL

the odds in the sportsbook were pulled out of a hat (with the exception of JP--since he has already qualified).
there was no need to list everyone that has ever played 1 hand of poker at sbr individually. so far 132 different players have actually played in the tourney, yet 500 players were listed for odds. would have been easier to make a list of the top 30 or 40 and then one entry for the field. but then again with a 10$ limit, there is no damage done for the book.

As for the final, even though JP will be the leader by 6000 pts. (possibly) he will have the same chance of winning as the last-place qualifier(which is not fair). in the final (an all-in festival) any donk (not Auto) can river out anyone and send them home empty handed. so much for the "skill versus luck" tournament.

[ArunSh]

right now with 1/3 (17 out of 70 days) of the tourney done, the cutoff point is 450 pts. so the cutoff point should be 1500pts for the final.

Jake with 2300 pts has already qualified

17 out of 70 is around 1/4 not 1/3 so that would suggest the cutoff should be more like 1800 not 1500.

But I have doubts about how accurate that really is. In the old format again the weekly average tended to be fairly accurate in regards to estimating the final cutoff, but here the variance is so huge given how few people now cash and that first place is worth 2.5x what second place is worth (many people with a single first are in top 50 right now, obviously that would not have been true in the old format after three weeks, where you had to be consistently cashing). So I think it's rather hard to say that the results thus far will provide an accurate estimation, but who knows? I also have a feeling that some people might lose interest later on (always happens to a certain degree when they are basically out of contention, and even more likely to happen in this format given how much lower the payouts are). And if that happens, obviously that might change the estimations as well.

I suppose time will tell all!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

odds of me qualifying are very good, winning the final tourney is another story. I'm looking at players with long odds that i think will qualify and have a decent shot at winning.

[spider]

17 out of 70 is around 1/4 not 1/3 so that would suggest the cutoff should be more like 1800 not 1500.

But I have doubts about how accurate that really is. In the old format again the weekly average tended to be fairly accurate in regards to estimating the final cutoff, but here the variance is so huge given how few people now cash and that first place is worth 2.5x what second place is worth (many people with a single first are in top 50 right now, obviously that would not have been true in the old format after three weeks, where you had to be consistently cashing). So I think it's rather hard to say that the results thus far will provide an accurate estimation, but who knows? I also have a feeling that some people might lose interest later on (always happens to a certain degree when they are basically out of contention, and even more likely to happen in this format given how much lower the payouts are). And if that happens, obviously that might change the estimations as well.

I suppose time will tell all!

Agree with you, (also corrected my figures) .

It looks like in order to finish in the top 50 , someone will need minimum at least 2 1ST place finishes. it will be impossible to qualify only with 50 and 100 pt cashes over the long run.

[SharpAngles]

As for the final, even though JP will be the leader by 6000 pts. (possibly) he will have the same chance of winning as the last-place qualifier(which is not fair). in the final (an all-in festival) any donk (not Auto) can river out anyone and send them home empty handed. so much for the "skill versus luck" tournament.

To be fair, any tournament has that element of any Donk can take you out with poor play. Even the ME has a huge number of fish that basically bought a 10k lotto ticket.

SBR doesn't understand poker if they really believed this tourney series would be rewarding skill vs luck. If they were interested in skill vs luck they would not have a winner take all single tourney at the end. What's wrong with playing the 70 days and giving the ticket to the top points finisher? That's rewarding skill.

[SharpAngles]

Agree with you, (also corrected my figures) .

It looks like in order to finish in the top 50 , someone will need minimum at least 2 1ST place finishes. it will be impossible to qualify only with 50 and 100 pt cashes over the long run.

perfect example of how broken this tourney series is and how clueless SBR poker is. A guy that luck boxes 3/70 tournaments gets a higher place than the guy that goes 14/70 cashing 2nd or worse. Who would you rather have reping your website in the big one?

[spider]

To be fair, any tournament has that element of any Donk can take you out with poor play. Even the ME has a huge number of fish that basically bought a 10k lotto ticket.

SBR doesn't understand poker if they really believed this tourney series would be rewarding skill vs luck. If they were interested in skill vs luck they would not have a winner take all single tourney at the end. What's wrong with playing the 70 days and giving the ticket to the top points finisher? That's rewarding skill.

[Gruntworker]

wow... I was shocked to see that I even have odds. I've played one daily. I will probably play only a handful more before this promotion is over. Or did they change the payout structure? Is it still 50 players top 5 paid? GL to those going for it though! Will be fun to sweat an SBR member in the ME!

[mikejamm]

Umm.... I think you missed a few people. You forgot to list every mother fuk'er that's ever played a poker hand here! Yet another idiotic attempt to make something out of a big pile of steaming shit. Half the people on that list don't even fuk'in post or play here anymore! Setting odds on a fuk'in tournament that's not even halfway fuk'in finished, yet apparently, sbr dookie has already choosen his odds on kiss ass favorite! You know something at the rigged shit hole that we don't dougie? Oh yeah that's right....the already "pre approved winner"

[Optional]

the odds in the sportsbook were pulled out of a hat (with the exception of JP--since he has already qualified).
there was no need to list everyone that has ever played 1 hand of poker at sbr individually. so far 132 different players have actually played in the tourney, yet 500 players were listed for odds. would have been easier to make a list of the top 30 or 40 and then one entry for the field. but then again with a 10$ limit, there is no damage done for the book.

As for the final, even though JP will be the leader by 6000 pts. (possibly) he will have the same chance of winning as the last-place qualifier(which is not fair). in the final (an all-in festival) any donk (not Auto) can river out anyone and send them home empty handed. so much for the "skill versus luck" tournament.

More than 132 different players actually played just today alone. I guess you mean 132 different people have cashed since the tourney started?

[spider]

More than 132 different players actually played just today alone. I guess you mean 132 different people have cashed since the tourney started?

yes, I meant people that had cashed.

[mikejamm]

To be fair, any tournament has that element of any Donk can take you out with poor play. Even the ME has a huge number of fish that basically bought a 10k lotto ticket.

SBR doesn't understand poker if they really believed this tourney series would be rewarding skill vs luck. If they were interested in skill vs luck they would not have a winner take all single tourney at the end. What's wrong with playing the 70 days and giving the ticket to the top points finisher? That's rewarding skill.

Exactly! And thanks for making a statement that actually makes some fuk'in sense around here. Too bad we have a poker mod with head shoved up ass syndrome. A simple game plan that makes perfect sense and rewards the winner for consistent skillful play over a period of time, rather than an all in shitty bad beat donk ass shove fest we have now. The one variable being, it really doesn't matter ultimately what your skill level is, sbr will decide in their own rigged fuk'in way who will win.

[katstale]

Isn't this like betting on WWE? I mean 5Dimes allows it, but really..... SBR knows NOW who will win this. Or maybe I should say, who will even have a chance.

[daneblazer]

People burying SBR poker these days

[stevek173]

I actually timed out of last night's tournament because I was bsing with a female then had to take a dump. True story.

[ShogunRua]

To be fair, any tournament has that element of any Donk can take you out with poor play. Even the ME has a huge number of fish that basically bought a 10k lotto ticket.

SBR doesn't understand poker if they really believed this tourney series would be rewarding skill vs luck. If they were interested in skill vs luck they would not have a winner take all single tourney at the end. What's wrong with playing the 70 days and giving the ticket to the top points finisher? That's rewarding skill.

While I agree with basically everything you say, I'm not necessarily sure the ultimate goal of the promo was to reward the most skilled player. Given the complaints (and lack of changes) of past finals, I think they sorta have an idea of what they are going for. I love the idea of rewarding the player with the most points at the end of the competition, but wouldn't that severely dilute the playing field in the finals days/weeks of the thing if there is already a clear winner? I'd like to think they are consciously making these types of decisions/rules instead of mindlessly throwing these things together, but who really knows.

[ArunSh]

While I agree with basically everything you say, I'm not necessarily sure the ultimate goal of the promo was to reward the most skilled player. Given the complaints (and lack of changes) of past finals, I think they sorta have an idea of what they are going for. I love the idea of rewarding the player with the most points at the end of the competition, but wouldn't that severely dilute the playing field in the finals days/weeks of the thing if there is already a clear winner? I'd like to think they are consciously making these types of decisions/rules instead of mindlessly throwing these things together, but who really knows.

The big problem I have with awarding it to the highest total points scorer is the possibility of cheating - imagine two people are very close near the end competing for 1st, and one person convinces other people to dump to him in a few tourneys (or puts a ghost in to dump to him for a few tourneys), etc. etc. When the award for 1st is a $10,000 seat in the Main Event, and second is peanuts by comparison, too likely something like that could happen (or someone could start cheating from the beginning in these ways even). Making it a grand finale where all players start on equal footing does at least mostly stop the motivation for trying to cheat like that. Not to say I think it's optimal, but I can certainly see how the other format might cause big problems itself in that regard.

[Auto Donk]

from the looks of it, qukooboo is a lock..... he's never played a trny in the year and a half i've played here; haven't seen him in the promo......

yep, let that mutha fcker ride on quokouboo

[moretti]

Max-bet 10 Points .. is this correct?

[Dan Kelly]

the odds in the sportsbook were pulled out of a hat (with the exception of JP--since he has already qualified).
there was no need to list everyone that has ever played 1 hand of poker at sbr individually. so far 132 different players have actually played in the tourney, yet 500 players were listed for odds. would have been easier to make a list of the top 30 or 40 and then one entry for the field. but then again with a 10$ limit, there is no damage done for the book.

As for the final, even though JP will be the leader by 6000 pts. (possibly) he will have the same chance of winning as the last-place qualifier(which is not fair). in the final (an all-in festival) any donk (not Auto) can river out anyone and send them home empty handed. so much for the "skill versus luck" tournament.

I disagree (that's what makes a market). The main reason I believe there is good value in JP's 35-1 odds are that his poker skill makes him twice as likely to win the final as the weaker players in the top 50. So, that means the odds on JP should be no better than 25-1.

BOL

[RudyRuetigger]

sign me up

rudy is starting poker today

i would do a

when i win this seat

but instead will embarrass sbr and the online casino programmers should i make it

[SharpAngles]

While I agree with basically everything you say, I'm not necessarily sure the ultimate goal of the promo was to reward the most skilled player. Given the complaints (and lack of changes) of past finals, I think they sorta have an idea of what they are going for.

JAKEPEAVY21 is excelling in a format tailor made to reward skill versus luck

Win a Main Event Seat tourney details

I'm using SBR's words not mine. You may be right about the field drying up near the end but there's got to be a better way than winner take all finale with the same fast structure and 1500 chips.

[SharpAngles]

The big problem I have with awarding it to the highest total points scorer is the possibility of cheating - imagine two people are very close near the end competing for 1st, and one person convinces other people to dump to him in a few tourneys (or puts a ghost in to dump to him for a few tourneys), etc. etc. When the award for 1st is a $10,000 seat in the Main Event, and second is peanuts by comparison, too likely something like that could happen (or someone could start cheating from the beginning in these ways even). Making it a grand finale where all players start on equal footing does at least mostly stop the motivation for trying to cheat like that. Not to say I think it's optimal, but I can certainly see how the other format might cause big problems itself in that regard.

Whats stopping anybody from colluding the same outcome in the final event? What if someone decides they'll spend a couple k to get a huge stack dumped to them? Or what deals which players have with each other? I'd say the crew near the top and most of the finalists will be trustworthy and I'm not worried but whats stopping it?