Fukk me........some 140 pound fanny back wearing bitch labeled me a fukkin squre.
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bubba
SBR MVP
09-29-05
2432
#177
Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
Nicest post in history from someone that just got robbed for 49k....wtf is going on....you guys must have billions or something
trust me, i cannot afford this. im out of work. But what am i going to do?
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bubba
SBR MVP
09-29-05
2432
#178
Originally posted by bubba
trust me, i cannot afford this. im out of work. But what am i going to do?
i thought if i had a problem with betislands, sbr would be able to straighten it out. I did not know sbr was part of the problem until it was too late.
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19th Hole
SBR Posting Legend
03-22-09
18936
#179
Originally posted by tto827
Because you couldn't afford the $200 to be connected to SBR.
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Not true if he joined thru the BI banner at SBR.
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Vegas39
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
09-22-11
30686
#180
Originally posted by William Walters
Fukk me........some 140 pound fanny back wearing bitch labeled me a fukkin squre.
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ebbearsfb1
SBR Posting Legend
12-07-08
18815
#181
Originally posted by William Walters
Fukk me........some 140 pound fanny back wearing bitch labeled me a fukkin squre.
Betting usc and Lakers could do that.. cheers Willie
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bettilimbroke999
SBR Posting Legend
02-04-08
13254
#182
Originally posted by allabout the $$$
if sbr had something to do with this you dont think they told justin just keep your mouth shut and we will make sure you get your money he could very easily out them and they know it. he isnt stupid he is keeping his mouth shut for a reason.
SBR KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
80% of Betislands customers were SBR referred..if Justin destroys them on SBR absolutely NO ONE would be playing there bc Justin is was one of the most trusted names on this site and they would instantly be out of business and he would have ZERO chance of getting his money
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antifoil
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3993
#183
yes justin7's involvement is the most troubling. i am not surprised by the rest of them.
has anyone found any disputes where justin clearly came down on the side of BI opposite of the facts presented?
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tto827
SBR Hall of Famer
10-01-12
9078
#184
Originally posted by antifoil
yes justin7's involvement is the most troubling. i am not surprised by the rest of them.
What exactly is his involvement besides likely being out 85k?
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wtt0315
SBR Hall of Famer
01-18-07
8037
#185
He deposited 10k and won on teasers he got out over 100 k the other 200k he got stuck in his account
[QUOTE=tblues2005;17210310]
Originally posted by pavyracer
Who says he wasn't trying for months to get his funds out but there was no cash in the coffers to pay him? In fact this tells me that these guys were bust a long time ago and they had no intention of paying anyone.[/Q
He might have started with say $10k so it might have been winnings to get to that much.
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bettilimbroke999
SBR Posting Legend
02-04-08
13254
#186
Originally posted by bubba
trust me, i cannot afford this. im out of work. But what am i going to do?
I dont know dude but Im madder than you are and I didnt lose a cent to ScamIslands...I dont like to see my fellow gamblers get robbed by scambooks...especially ones that are almost entirely promoted by SBR.
For those of us that used to think Covers was a disgusting scam promoting site and SBR had some ethics its becoming obvious that they are both garbage
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antifoil
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3993
#187
that is what i want to find out. did he shill for BI in any dispute?
if he behaved unethically in matters, he could be disbarred or fined. using his status as a legal representative to perpetrate fraud on consumers.
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William Walters
SBR Hall of Famer
01-17-11
6372
#188
Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
Betting usc and Lakers could do that.. cheers Willie
bears............my ego is hurt man.
Confidence shattered.
May need my wife to fake scream tonight in the sack.
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antifoil
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3993
#189
Maintaining The Integrity Of The Profession
Rule 8.4 Misconduct
It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:
(a) violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;
(b) commit a criminal act that reflects adversely on the lawyer's honesty, trustworthiness or fitness as a lawyer in other respects;
(c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;
(d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice;
(e) state or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official or to achieve results by means that violate the Rules of Professional Conduct or other law; or
(f) knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law.
there is also a code of conduct for mediation that i could dig through.
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bettilimbroke999
SBR Posting Legend
02-04-08
13254
#190
Originally posted by tto827
What exactly is his involvement besides likely being out 85k?
Lips zipped despite the fact that SBRs head of player disputes was getting stiffed (the last person on earth BetIslands would stiff unless they were completely insolvent)
Justin was just hoping they could steal enough new deposits to pay him before they ran off
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Vegas39
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
09-22-11
30686
#191
Originally posted by tto827
What exactly is his involvement besides likely being out 85k?
Originally Posted by Justin7 I know Jon, the owner of BetIslands... I've known him for several years. I assure you, Betislands (and Jon) have nothing to do with those other books.
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Vegas39
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
09-22-11
30686
#192
Originally posted by William Walters
bears............my ego is hurt man.
Confidence shattered.
May need my wife to fake scream tonight in the sack.
just over 3X rollover
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#193
not sure why everyone keeps calling betislands a "scambook"
yes, paying sbr for losses and having a bunch of bonus whores isn't a good long-term business model, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's a scam.
from what i know, they paid out more in withdrawals than they collected in deposits, and if their backer didn't get arrested, it could've continued for years that way.
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Not-A-Kid
SBR Wise Guy
03-07-11
525
#194
That 7Red bullsh*t is really incriminating too.
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wtt0315
SBR Hall of Famer
01-18-07
8037
#195
Their backer wasn't arrested. He pulled out
Originally posted by milwaukee
mike;17211414
not sure why everyone keeps calling betislands a "scambook"
yes, paying sbr for losses and having a bunch of bonus whores isn't a good long-term business model, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's a scam.
from what i know, they paid out more in withdrawals than they collected in deposits, and if their backer didn't get arrested, it could've continued for years that way.
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ebbearsfb1
SBR Posting Legend
12-07-08
18815
#196
Originally posted by William Walters
bears............my ego is hurt man.
Confidence shattered.
May need my wife to fake scream tonight in the sack.
Hahaha.. yikes..
Anything to get the confidence back
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milwaukee mike
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-22-07
26914
#197
Originally posted by wtt0315
Their backer wasn't arrested. He pulled out
has that been confirmed? what is his name? so this is incorrect?
After being a spectator for a few days of this situation I wanted to add some input to this mess I am one of the managers at one of the sportsbooks that Betislands was approached by for a bailout and after reading some of the posts here I wanted to add my 2 cents as someone who saw their books and understood the situation.
Despite of the some of the comments that you read on here Betislands in fact did have actual financial backing " old school credit guy " this is why players for 2 years got paid with any sort of problems. If this would have been a " scam " they would have closed shop long ago fact is this book was running on a negative balance sheet for a while now and payouts were being made out of the bankers pocket.
Betislands would have continued dishing out payments if the financial backer would not have been arrested.
There was no money to steal because Betislands had paid more out then what they took in deposits.
Sharp players had their way with this brand and most of them came from this very website , syndicate groups , bonus whoring this is why my boss turned down the book. And that is why most sportsbook owners hate SBR.
SBR had a nice piece of the losses when they came though up to 25% If I am not mistaken , granted this website is a business just like any other but denying the fact that SBR profited from this would be a lie.
No BAILOUT is coming , this book was brouight to the door of most of the larger companies and actually almost begged for someone to pick it up just to get a NO.
In a nutshell Betislands was never intended to be a stiff job they paid people for 2 seasons and I would on ocassion read that some players thought an A rating would be more suitable for this book after getting paid .... fact is the main owner / bank got busted and the funding stopped since he was the only one with any sort of bank behind him it is not the first time this happens nor will it be the last. Uncle Sam is getting his way the last few years.
SBR..
Betonline an A ?? Cmon save face SBR these rating need to improve there are much better and safer C shops than some of the B sportsbooks.
Dont send players to another rabbit hole.
This may be my last post here if I am not allowed to post again my post has no other intention but to inform players that were affected by this situation on what really happend and to wish them the best of luck.
Any and all of this info can be confirmed by most people in the know and in the sportsbook industry.
If I have anymore info I will share it with this forum community.
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SamDiamond
SBR Hall of Famer
10-19-12
6107
#198
Originally posted by William Walters
bears............my ego is hurt man.
Confidence shattered.
May need my wife to fake scream tonight in the sack.
Willie-- welcome to my house.
After 11 years of marriage my wife doesn't even bother to fake a scream.
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wtt0315
SBR Hall of Famer
01-18-07
8037
#199
I wish I knew his name But what I was told from people that have worked there Was the financial backer pulled out because John was killing the book by allowing sharp players And they were bankrupting the book And it was coming out of the financial backers pockets.
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opie1988
SBR Posting Legend
09-12-10
23429
#200
Originally posted by wtt0315
Their backer wasn't arrested. He pulled out
....that's what she said!
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HeeeHAWWWW
SBR Hall of Famer
06-13-08
5487
#201
Did seem a pretty decent-sized coincidence that a US-focused book should fold so soon after all those arrests in NY.
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bettilimbroke999
SBR Posting Legend
02-04-08
13254
#202
Originally posted by milwaukee mike
not sure why everyone keeps calling betislands a "scambook"
yes, paying sbr for losses and having a bunch of bonus whores isn't a good long-term business model, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's a scam.
from what i know, they paid out more in withdrawals than they collected in deposits, and if their backer didn't get arrested, it could've continued for years that way.
If you walkoff with 1.5 mil you are a scambook...Im sure every business starts out thinking theyll make money but at some point you switch to a scam
Enron didnt start off to defraud ppl
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tblues2005
SBR Hall of Famer
07-30-06
9235
#203
Originally posted by bubba
i thought if i had a problem with betislands, sbr would be able to straighten it out. I did not know sbr was part of the problem until it was too late.
This totally sucks if you ask me. Being down that much and out of work on top of that really stinks.
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paranoyd androyd
SBR Hall of Famer
10-01-11
6459
#204
Originally posted by bubba
so basically instead of being even on the season, i am now -50k. without sbrs endorsement this NEVER HAPPENS.
i hope you seek vengeance. gl
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antifoil
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3993
#205
if you have any evidence justin7 engaged in any misconduct you can contact the indiana bar here:
Indiana Supreme Court
Disciplinary Commission
G. Michael Witte Executive Secretary
30 South Meridian Street, Suite 850
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone (317) 232-1807
TDD for Deaf (317) 233-6111
If you walkoff with 1.5 mil you are a scambook...Im sure every business starts out thinking theyll make money but at some point you switch to a scam
Enron didnt start off to defraud ppl
no, there are quite a few books that start out to be a scam all along
i see your point though, mine was just that it may or may not have started out with good intentions. they might have been dumb enough to think they could last with all the affiliate fees, bonuses, reduced juice, etc
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Kaabee
SBR MVP
01-21-06
2482
#208
am i missing something, because why does justin7 say he was tossed from bi in this thread post 31.