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  • Wallco99
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    • 01-01-11
    • 7261

    #736



    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone....even the trolls!

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    • Teamprofit101
      SBR Sharp
      • 12-14-11
      • 336

      #737
      Happy Thanksgiving guys...enjoy the day with your family/friends
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      • J.M. Disciple
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-16-10
        • 5154

        #738
        I do not think i had a losing day since following stiff, wallco, and 1-3-5 Jm.

        up over 50 units now so this season is looking fantastic! Do have some b&c wagers coming up this weekend though.

        any other systems you all following?
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        • CrazyCarl
          SBR MVP
          • 10-09-11
          • 1437

          #739
          Just 7/5 and Stiffler's for me.

          Happy thanksgiving everyone.
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #740
            What a great night.
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            • jackoffalltrades
              SBR Hustler
              • 10-15-12
              • 55

              #741
              Three wins using the Wallaco system - makes for a Happy Thanksgiving Eve!
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              • Kev the Brit
                SBR MVP
                • 10-25-09
                • 2027

                #742
                Originally posted by thelimit0310


                7/5 Plays NOV 21

                No Plays

                Results:
                Bet 1: 5-2
                Bet 2: 1-1
                Utah 11/2
                I'm confused. Wasn't Toronto a Bet 1 play? They lost ATS on Nov 20 as a JM V3 A Bet, or is the 7/5 system based only on JM V1. .

                Feel free to give me $hit if I've not been paying attention.

                Kev the Confused.
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                • kensh3
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 11-03-12
                  • 49

                  #743
                  Has anyone thought of this system before:
                  Instead of raising our unit size for each loss, u continue playing the 1 unit plays so lets say:
                  There are 100 games, and u bet 1 unit on each one, no matter if u win or lose, and lets say we have 40 season loses considering the worst case scenario we would finish with 60 - 40 = 20 units positive. But if we take 1-3-5 where we lose ~10 units per season loss and if we have 40 lost games lets say 5 of them are system loses so that would be 60 - 50 - = 10 units positive. I am not sure if i'm thinking the right way, need your opinions on this?
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                  • Wallco99
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                    • 01-01-11
                    • 7261

                    #744
                    Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                    I'm confused. Wasn't Toronto a Bet 1 play? They lost ATS on Nov 20 as a JM V3 A Bet, or is the 7/5 system based only on JM V1. .

                    Feel free to give me $hit if I've not been paying attention.

                    Kev the Confused.
                    Even though we play them ATS, in order to qualify the team as a 7/5 play, the team has to lose the (A) bet per the JM buy 3 points rule plus an additional 0.5 points.
                    So a team must lose by a total of 3.5 points to the spread in order to qualify, not just lose ATS.
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                    • Wallco99
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                      • 01-01-11
                      • 7261

                      #745
                      Wallco NBA Chase 110
                      2012-13 System to date: 10-0 (fin. series)
                      System profit/loss: +10.00 units (fin. series)
                      Current open series: 0

                      (11/21/12):
                      1#7 Sacramento (+6) (C) - Win
                      1#8 Cleveland (+4½) (B) - Win
                      #10 Phoenix (M/L) (A) - Win

                      v1 Plays
                      (A) 8-2
                      (B) 1-1

                      (C) 1-0
                      (D) 0-0


                      There are no system plays for (11/22/12)
                      1
                      Happy Thanksgiving fellow forum dwellers!


                      We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                      System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
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                      • thelimit0310
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-24-11
                        • 1233

                        #746
                        Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                        I'm confused. Wasn't Toronto a Bet 1 play? They lost ATS on Nov 20 as a JM V3 A Bet, or is the 7/5 system based only on JM V1. .

                        Feel free to give me $hit if I've not been paying attention.

                        Kev the Confused.
                        They have to lose against the spread +3.5 points. If you add 3.5 points Toronto actually won 107-106. Even without the extra .5 filter they still won with 106.5
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                        • thelimit0310
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-24-11
                          • 1233

                          #747
                          7/5 Plays NOV 21

                          No Plays

                          7/5 Plays NOV 22

                          No Plays

                          Results:
                          Bet 1: 5-2
                          Bet 2: 1-1
                          Utah 11/2

                          Notes: LA Lakers series begins tomorrow.

                          Happy Thanksgiving!
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                          • Kev the Brit
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-25-09
                            • 2027

                            #748
                            Originally posted by thelimit0310
                            They have to lose against the spread +3.5 points. If you add 3.5 points Toronto actually won 107-106. Even without the extra .5 filter they still won with 106.5
                            Thanks, guys (thelimit and wallco) for clarifying. I took my eye off the ball there. Must try harder.....

                            Kev the Corrected
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                            • play4win
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-23-11
                              • 2208

                              #749
                              Originally posted by Wallco99
                              Wallco NBA Chase 110
                              2012-13 System to date: 10-0 (fin. series)
                              System profit/loss: +10.00 units (fin. series)
                              Current open series: 0

                              (11/21/12):
                              1#7 Sacramento (+6)[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (C) - [/F(LOR][/B] (+4½) (B) - Win
                              #10 Phoenix (M/L) (A) - Win

                              v1 Plays
                              (A) 8-2
                              (B) 1-1

                              (C) 1-0
                              (D) 0-0


                              There are no system plays for (11/22/12)
                              1
                              Happy Thanksgiving fellow forum dwellers!


                              We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                              System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
                              So houston was no play?
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                              • Wallco99
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-01-11
                                • 7261

                                #750
                                Originally posted by play4win
                                So houston was no play?
                                Please don't quote the play post in your post, and NO, they weren't a play.
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                                • NZT-48
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-29-11
                                  • 522

                                  #751
                                  hey Kev how are you sir?.....I emailed you a couple of days ago not on here but your actual email address let me know if you got it if not I will re-send thanks.....it was about JJ NBA TPS System


                                  Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                  I'm confused. Wasn't Toronto a Bet 1 play? They lost ATS on Nov 20 as a JM V3 A Bet, or is the 7/5 system based only on JM V1. .

                                  Feel free to give me $hit if I've not been paying attention.

                                  Kev the Confused.
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                                  • Brundle99
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 10-23-10
                                    • 295

                                    #752
                                    I try to follow the JM Systems as accurately as possible, but in NBA, what do you guys do when the buying 3 points takes the line to over -200?.

                                    Because it makes the line very risky, and if your on a B or C bet, obviously you don't want to have to pass on the rest of the series.
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                                    • nitsuj378
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-16-10
                                      • 123

                                      #753
                                      Originally posted by Brundle99
                                      I try to follow the JM Systems as accurately as possible, but in NBA, what do you guys do when the buying 3 points takes the line to over -200?.

                                      Because it makes the line very risky, and if your on a B or C bet, obviously you don't want to have to pass on the rest of the series.
                                      Thats why 1-3-5 or the 7/5 method are recommended. With those methods you dont have to lay so much juice and can even gain more units.
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                                      • thelimit0310
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-24-11
                                        • 1233

                                        #754
                                        7/5 Plays NOV 22

                                        No Plays

                                        7/5 Plays NOV 23

                                        LA Lakers +4.5 vs Memphis - Bet 1

                                        Results:
                                        Bet 1: 5-2
                                        Bet 2: 1-1
                                        Utah 11/2
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                                        • Wallco99
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-01-11
                                          • 7261

                                          #755
                                          Bad post.
                                          Last edited by Wallco99; 11-23-12, 03:43 PM.
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                                          • J.M. Disciple
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-16-10
                                            • 5154

                                            #756
                                            1-3-5
                                            Cle -A
                                            Min - A

                                            there might be a B bet ill update soon. not sure if A bet was a push vs Indiana or not.

                                            wallco since you back tested the system you want to confirm before i post unofficial play?
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                                            • BuckeyeKaptn
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-16-12
                                              • 271

                                              #757
                                              bad post
                                              Last edited by BuckeyeKaptn; 11-23-12, 09:42 PM.
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                                              • Wallco99
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-01-11
                                                • 7261

                                                #758
                                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                2012-13 System to date: 10-0 (fin. series)
                                                System profit/loss: +10.00 units (fin. series)
                                                Current open series: 0


                                                v1 Plays
                                                (A) 8-2
                                                (B) 1-1

                                                (C) 1-0
                                                (D) 0-0


                                                Games for (11/23/12):
                                                #11 Minnesota (+2) @ Portland (A) (10:05 pm EST)


                                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                                System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
                                                Last edited by Wallco99; 11-23-12, 05:49 PM.
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                                                • BuckeyeKaptn
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 11-16-12
                                                  • 271

                                                  #759
                                                  bad post
                                                  Last edited by BuckeyeKaptn; 11-23-12, 09:43 PM.
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                                                  • Wallco99
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                    • 7261

                                                    #760
                                                    Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                    1-3-5
                                                    Cle -A
                                                    Min - A

                                                    there might be a B bet ill update soon. not sure if A bet was a push vs Indiana or not.

                                                    wallco since you back tested the system you want to confirm before i post unofficial play?
                                                    If you are referring to New Orleans, they would be a (B) bet today for the 1-3-5 bet method. The line was +7.5 and they lost by 8. They will NOT be a play for traditional JM buy 3 points or 7/5, but as far as 1-3-5, they are an official play if you are using that bet scheme.
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                                                    • stevex
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 05-02-10
                                                      • 5122

                                                      #761
                                                      JM Traditional System

                                                      11/23/2012

                                                      V1

                                                      Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 8-0
                                                      Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 8-0
                                                      Current series pending: 0

                                                      V2

                                                      Current chase record W/OUT buying point: 5-0
                                                      Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 5-0
                                                      Current series pending: 0

                                                      V3

                                                      Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 8-1-2
                                                      Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 11-0
                                                      Current series pending: 3

                                                      1. LA Lakers B Bet +4 1/2 @ Memphis Grizzlies (Risking 150 TO WIN 136.36)
                                                      LA Lakers B Bet (with buying 3 points) +7 1/2 @ Memphis Grizzlies

                                                      2. Minnesota T'Wolves A Bet +1 1/2 @ Portland Trailblazers (Risking 110 TO WIN 100)
                                                      Minnesota T'Wolves A Bet (with buying 3 points) +4 1/2 @ Portland Trailblazers

                                                      3. Cleveland Cavaliers A Bet +4 @ Orlando Magic (Risking 110 TO WIN 100)
                                                      Cleveland Cavaliers A Bet (with buying 3 points) +7 @ Orlando Magic
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                                                      • Wallco99
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-01-11
                                                        • 7261

                                                        #762
                                                        Originally posted by BuckeyeKaptn
                                                        New Orleans pushed
                                                        This statement is in correct, they lost their (A) bet. Please delete your previous 2 posts before any further confusion comes of it. Thanks.
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                                                        • Wallco99
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-01-11
                                                          • 7261

                                                          #763
                                                          stevex, I am trying to send you a PM but it won't let me. Any idea why?
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                                                          • stevex
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 05-02-10
                                                            • 5122

                                                            #764
                                                            Wallco to be honest I have no idea why, but I think like a few months ago my PM's where disabled or something...

                                                            Regarding New Orleans, I have it as a push if you played straight up. Final score was 115 to 107 and if you bought the 3 points that was an A Bet win.
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #765
                                                              Originally posted by stevex
                                                              Wallco to be honest I have no idea why, but I think like a few months ago my PM's where disabled or something...

                                                              Regarding New Orleans, I have it as a push if you played straight up. Final score was 115 to 107 and if you bought the 3 points that was an A Bet win.
                                                              I realize that it won buying points, but is that how you play your -110 bets also? If the buy 3 points wins then you stop your -110 chase, even if it doesn't cover? I'm a little confused, that seems to defeat the purpose of -110. It was listed at +7.5 on every site, so I am just trying to figure out where you found it at +8 to make the series a push. When I first came up with the 1-3-5, the idea was to continue ALL games that didn't cover ATS through the (C) bet if necessary, not concerning myself with whether or not it covered buying 3 points, and if the team pushed any game ATS, the series was over. They didn't cover or push, so there is no reason the ATS chase shouldn't continue to (B) even know the buy 3 points chase ended. Please elaborate. Thanks.

                                                              ** I tried to send this in a PM but as you know I couldn't **
                                                              Last edited by Wallco99; 11-23-12, 04:06 PM.
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                                                              • stevex
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 05-02-10
                                                                • 5122

                                                                #766
                                                                True. This is why we discuss things, gotta love it..

                                                                Wallco

                                                                If you want and if any one wants to chime in then that's fine. Do you want me to start continuing the series if they push on an A or B bet from now on at -110 odds?
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                                                                • Wallco99
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-01-11
                                                                  • 7261

                                                                  #767
                                                                  Originally posted by stevex
                                                                  True. This is why we discuss things, gotta love it..

                                                                  Wallco

                                                                  If you want and if any one wants to chime in then that's fine. Do you want me to start continuing the series if they push on an A or B bet from now on at -110 odds?
                                                                  No, i definitely wouldn't continue them if they PUSH, that is not my issue. I am just wondering how you got an 8 point game with a 7.5 point line to be a push. I thought you were using Covers.com. If you are using another site for your official plays and the line was +8, then I sincerely apologize. But I'm pretty sure this question was asked a few weeks ago and you said Covers.com was that site.
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                                                                  • Brundle99
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 10-23-10
                                                                    • 295

                                                                    #768
                                                                    Originally posted by nitsuj378
                                                                    Thats why 1-3-5 or the 7/5 method are recommended. With those methods you dont have to lay so much juice and can even gain more units.
                                                                    Sounds interesting, I've only used a labby since following Chilidog last year, not sure what those methods involve, do you have a link or anything where I can learn them?.

                                                                    Thanks.
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                                                                    • Wallco99
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                                      • 7261

                                                                      #769
                                                                      Originally posted by Brundle99
                                                                      Sounds interesting, I've only used a labby since following Chilidog last year, not sure what those methods involve, do you have a link or anything where I can learn them?.

                                                                      Thanks.
                                                                      Yes, they are described in post #50.
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                                                                      • TR35
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 10-22-12
                                                                        • 176

                                                                        #770
                                                                        This is my first time on this thread. Someone told me this was a good thread. What are the picks tonight?
                                                                        Lakers +4.5 or Lakers +7.5?
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