Spread is Dal -2. It finished Dal by 3. What you all whining about. Great job professional linesmakers.
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Didn't watch more than 5 minutes of this game. When I saw it was a 14 point lead with about 7 minutes to go I figured the Mavs pretty much had it. Could not believe the final score when I saw it. So glad I took the line early.
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When I saw the result of this game I just knew there would be another thread from no coin talking about the nightly NBA 'fix'.
The opener was covered. The closer wan't. And many would have got a push as well. Please explain where the fix is imbecile.Comment -
Seriously, seems like he makes this same thread everyday. If he's that bad and loses that much why keep betting on the games. If not betting them then why even worry about it? He should probably learn how lines are calculated before assuming it's some random number out of Vegas' ass that the players wait the last 30 seconds to plan how to make it just over/ under the mark.Comment -
Im still slamming my manhood in the door, thought I was over it... but I am notComment -
NBA = No bets allowed.Comment -
This is why you have to line shop and get on certain games early. There were 3s available all day and even probably at gametime. If you line shopped there is no way you lost on this game.Comment -
I take it you didn't watch the game and see how it happened and what transpired.
I had no bet on this one. You just knew it was coming. Keep thinking these lines are just "sharp" strictly because the oddsmakers know what they're doing.Comment -
And I don't want to hear the "well Dallas got tired and hit a wall on a B2B" excuse. Did that play a factor? Of course it did. I'm not saying that wasn't an issue. But it was 79-55 in the final minute of the third quarter. A 24 point game. There's no reason for Dallas to struggle so much over the final 12 minutes and then just happen to win by 3 given where the line opened and closed.Comment -
the never ending conversation.
next.Comment -
Could have gotten Blazers +16 at 5dimes live in play at some point.Comment -
Do you know how stupid you come across? You make no sense whatsoever.
I watched the last qtr because I had Dallas in a parlay. So don't give me that.
Now please explain to me who it benefits for the final score to fall at a 3pt win. The line was at -2, got all the way to -4 and closed at -3.5. Who does that benefit? Are the players/umps/nba only wanting to rewards the sharps who got on early and shaft the public who might have got a worse number?
Why leave it up to the final shot of the game to hit the 3 pt win? As if it is a guarantee for a player to be able to hit a 3 pt shot. If they wanted a 3 pt win, which makes no sense except in your head, they would have hovered around that number for most of the game, instead it comes down to the final shot of the game, which is no certainty.Comment -
Does my 100 game sample size mean I'm in on the fix? If you look at these games many of them are favorites, how does this benefit the books, or more importantly Vegas who creates the lines? Are you saying the entire starting rosters/ coaches/ refs are in on these games to make the line "sharp"? As is stated many times, why wait until the last few seconds? That's retarded. You sound like the donks on 2+2 who say online poker is rigged.
And as you can see at the top of the list is the Dallas game I lost on, so yes of course I watched it, and no I don't see this "fix" lmao
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The NBA has no shameComment -
rewatching it now on ESPN.
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Just watched it. Definitely not fixed. Dallas just made a lot of sloppy plays which lead to Portland fast breaks. Dallas couldn't buy a bucket in the last 3 minutes, whereas everything went in for Portland. It's not like players can "fix made baskets." 7 or 8 times out of 10 that last shot by Wes Matthews doesn't go in. Just a bunch of random coincidences happened in the last 3 minutes of that game.Comment -
People complain about the "fix" to make themselves feel better about their losing bets....it's the classic gambler's fallacy.
Are there isolated point shaving incidents in sports? Sure, history has proven that to be fact. However, while there have been isolated incidents of point shaving, there has never been one shred of evidence of a wide spread conspiracy between the league, refs and players. Every time a game ends on the number or close thereto, people complain about the fix and you see silly threads like this. As a rational person, I find it hilarious that people believe that every game is "scripted." It's very comical.
As if a player can control when to make a last second shot
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I've really been burned by favorites the past few days, just when i start betting bigger i take steps backwards, unreal.Comment -
I've never complained about aPeople complain about the "fix" to make themselves feel better about their losing bets....it's the classic gambler's fallacy.
Are there isolated point shaving incidents in sports? Sure, history has proven that to be fact. However, while there have been isolated incidents of point shaving, there has never been one shred of evidence of a wide spread conspiracy between the league, refs and players. Every time a game ends on the number or close thereto, people complain about the fix and you see silly threads like this. As a rational person, I find it hilarious that people believe that every game is "scripted." It's very comical.
As if a player can control when to make a last second shot
fix, and i didn't have a wager on this game. What lead up to Mathews even having a chance to cover the spread
was "amazing" to say the least. Moving on to the next. Nba. com has the summary, and If anyone can let me know why Wright didn't run out the clock with a 4 pt. lead with 7 seconds left, i would love to hear it.Comment -
Brain, great record, keep it going
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if Matthews misses that last second 3 from downtown then no one cries fix. This happens. If you can't deal with it, then don't gamble.
I watched the game, portland should have lost by over 20 and got out played in every aspect of the game. However, Dallas just didnt care at the end but it almost cost them the game.
Refs definately made it closer then it should have been as well. But lets face it, many games are decided by officiating and sometimes it just doesnt work out in your favour. I had indiana come back from being down 15 going into the 4th against the Knicks recently and they covered the -5.5 spread for me. Deal with it. This happens often and if you dwell on these type of games then don't bother gambling on them. Don't gamble at all. Sometimes as much as you read lines, spend time capping a certain game, other things that you have no control over dictate the outcome of the game.Comment -
Because players are selfish and some are classless by trying to pad their stats at the end of games. I see it all the time, instead of running out the clock guys try to score. Take the Bulls/Heat game the other day; the Bulls were up by ten at the end of overtime and Watson was running out the clock, but at the 5 second mark he chucked up a three pointer. Because it was a ten point lead and it didn't go in, no one said anything. However, had that been the difference in a spread, people would have cried.
It's the just the nature of the beast. All these guys are human and aren't going to be perfect or make the right mental play every single time even though as investors that is what we expect. Unfortunately, we are investing and trusting our money to human players, not robots. Everyone makes mistakes and some just don't care. They are going to do what they want when they want regardless of what they have been taught to do.Comment -
Stop it LTA, your bringing way too much logic into this discussion.Comment -
I was posting in here last night about grabbing Portland as a live bet. Passed when they were +12 and right before I was done for the night I saw Portland +18.5. I tried to pound it but I was on my mobile and wasn't quick enough to get teh bet in...LOL. I thought oh well - probably for the best as it looks like Dallas will win by 20+. Went to bed and I see the score this morning...
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