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  • SportsPedagogy
    SBR MVP
    • 02-13-11
    • 3691

    #1
    Lebron James Vs Kevin Durant.
    People either love Lebron James and think he is the best, or they think he is very overrated. I think its somewhere in the middle. One thing i keep hearing is people saying "Dont listen to the media, you buy their BS and makes you think he sucks" . I think its kind of the opposite, the media helped make Lebron when he was in high school. I have never seen a kid get his high school games played on TV as much as this kid. Days and Days of ESPN coverage, "Where wil he go" "When will he decide. I twas like "He got game all over again. He wind sup with the Cavs and their games are all over tv. Every good thing Lebron did was put on ESPN, he took the helpless Cavs and turned them into contenders. Then he goes to Miami in one of the biggest spectacle free agent signings ever seen. The Lebron hype train is humongous. Not saying hes not a good player deserving of hype, but this story fully eclipsed that of Kobe Bryant going for a 3 peat.

    On the other hand, you have Kevin Durant. As a kid, he won many AAU national championships, Was regarded as the 2nd best high school player next to Greg Oden. He went to Texas and played on season and carried them to the Big 10 title game where he scored 37 in a losing effort to Kansas. The ended up losing in the 2nd round to USC in the big tournament. He then went 2nd to the Supersonics, All of the hype went to Greg Oden. He was offered a spot to try out for the 2007 FIBA team where he was cut. The 2008 Olympic team, where he was cut, then finally selected to the 2010 FIBA national team. Durrant led The "B-Team" (Without James, Kobe, Wade or Bosh " to the Championship against Turkey and won. Something the United States hadnt done in over a decade. Still, Durant was viewed as a perennial Super Star in the League, some people still dont fully accept him as one.

    They say a players legacy is defined by his accomplishments, neither have won a championship yet, but ill break down the rest.

    Years in the league: James: 8 Durant: 4
    Rookie of the Year Awards: Each have one ...obviously.
    All-Star Appearances : James: 7 Durant: 2
    NBA Scoring Titles: James: 1 Durant 2
    All NBA First Team: James: 5 Durant: 2
    James as well has won MVP of the League Twice.

    My question to you, is, what if the roles were reversed. What if Durant was hyped up on ESPN when he was in high school and went straight into the NBA after days of the media following him for his decision, while Lebron James did a year in College, gained some recognition as one of the top college players that year and as drafted #2 overall. Each player being the same exact as they are. Same skill set and mentality, just different media exposure. Do you think Durant would be refereed to as the best in the league and "potently better then Jordan" ? Or would that title still go to Lebron ?

    Side Note: Im not bashing Lebron, i think he is a great player. (He is human as he has shown in this series, but stil one of the top players) I just feel the media can make a players legacy and i wanted to compare two differently viewed players.
  • SportsPedagogy
    SBR MVP
    • 02-13-11
    • 3691

    #2
    Nobody had any opinions
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    • DarkMage
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 05-20-09
      • 736

      #3
      Lebron over Durant 1000x over no questions asked.
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      • twelvejewelz
        SBR MVP
        • 01-29-11
        • 2388

        #4
        The media plays a huge role in who people like and dislike. No one would even compare lebron to jordan if it wasnt for the media. Now if durant had a better PG he would be putting up even better numbers than he is now and if he had the media hype the same that lebron did IMO he would be the big talk. Hes not like that though and lebron is. Lebron is arrogant and all about $$ while durant is humble and a relatively quiet person. IMO the media makes or breaks the way that the Sheep view any player in any sport.
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        • GunShard
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-05-10
          • 10031

          #5
          Durant will have inaccurate days.
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          • Deep_Rest
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-29-10
            • 841

            #6
            I don't think that many people truly believe LeBron is overrated. His defense is good and his scoring ability is good. The only part of his game that is lacking is clutch-time. People hate LeBron because he has poor sportsmanship and is a self-centered d-bag. Durant is probably the closest thing to a role model in the NBA but if I hate my choice between the two, I think LeBron is the obvious choice.
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            • pronk
              Restricted User
              • 11-22-08
              • 6887

              #7
              Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
              Nobody had any opinions
              You should be doing analysis for ESPN

              I could care less about Lecheat
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              • jsmithj88
                SBR MVP
                • 12-27-08
                • 3591

                #8
                lebron is still the best player in the nba
                KD is only a scorer and i wont even consider him the best despite the scoring titles
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                • scholesy
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-03-07
                  • 517

                  #9
                  Kevin Durant is not even half the player LeBron is, strictly one dimensional player, too weak to drive to the basket on days his jumper is not falling.
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                  • SparJMU
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-18-10
                    • 1648

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                    People either love Lebron James and think he is the best, or they think he is very overrated. I think its somewhere in the middle.
                    I have argued the Lebron topic ad nauseum, and you basically summed up the entire conclusion in your sentence above. He's a great basketball player, just not even close to the hype that surrounds him.

                    The answer to your question about Lebron or Durant......If I want to win 60 games in the regular season, Lebron or Dwight Howard are the obvious top two picks. If it's day 1 of the NBA playoffs, there are at least 10 players I would draft ahead of Lebron, and Durant is one of them.
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                    • SparJMU
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-18-10
                      • 1648

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Deep_Rest
                      The only part of his game that is lacking is clutch-time.
                      I think it's worth mentioning that Lebron is lacking clutch time not because he is missing some form of DNA that allows him to perform well under pressure, but because he is not a complete scorer. He can get to the hoop better than anyone in the league, but thats about it. His outside shooting is nothing special, and he doesn't have much in his reportoire beyond going strong to the rim. He lacks in the clutch because he doesn't have the ability to score the same ways that Kobe, Dirk, Wade, Durant, etc. can score.

                      And it's also worth noting that Lebron is a much more complete player than Durant. Rebounding, passing, defense, etc. Durant is too skinny and needs to get stronger as his career progresses. Like I said, I would take Lebron for the 82 game regular season, but we all know that playoff games are won in the fourth quarter, and Durant gives you a much better chance in those situations. Currently Lebron's offensive game is lacking in too many ways to make him a dominant playoff force.
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                      • jubuck757
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-03-11
                        • 686

                        #12
                        Give me durant .. At least he shows up in the big games
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                        • tom71
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 01-08-10
                          • 65

                          #13
                          king james
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                          • jsmithj88
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-27-08
                            • 3591

                            #14
                            lebron is great in almost every category.
                            problem with lebron is he is an elite scorer yet he isnt
                            hes elite due to the fact that hes faster/bigger/stronger than most players
                            hes not due to the fact that hes not a good shooter, most of his offensive is off dribble penetration, and the finals showed you can limit him offensively
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                            • bureK
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-21-10
                              • 1059

                              #15
                              King James has dumb personallity, full of himself because of the f media hyping him that much. He fell under the presure this year I think. He will come out stronger next year believe it. KD is a born scorer - only experienc and years will show what he is made off. If he hadnt that Westbrook trying to play MJ they would get to the finals for sure. 1v1 it's KD35 but James is my dream team for sure
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                              • Bradyd
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-19-08
                                • 1067

                                #16
                                The only reason we are having this conversation is because Durant is likeable and Lebron isn't. Anyone who watches & understands the NBA knows that Durant isn't on Lebron's level right now.
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                                • PlatinumBerg
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-01-10
                                  • 1058

                                  #17
                                  LeB!tch is a egoistic douche that looks down on regular people like us when we are the reason why he gets paid millions of dollars to dribble a ball up and down a hardwood court.
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                                  • FilletMaster
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-21-10
                                    • 1096

                                    #18
                                    i'll take KD all day... He will get a ring before the queen.
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                                    • onlooker
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 36572

                                      #19
                                      Can we let the Lebron James talk die out until lets say, maybe October? Thanks.

                                      This goes for you to ESPN.
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                                      • TheThreeKings
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-14-10
                                        • 506

                                        #20
                                        Durant is not even close to being the complete player that Lebron is. People want to rail on Lebron for his lack of 4th quarter scoring but overlook the first 3 rounds of the playoffs in which he did everything you could humanly ask of him. I remember watching game after game of Durant failing to even get the ball down the stretch. I know people will blame this on Westbrook, but watch KD on these possessions, he can't even get himself open consistently at the end of a game.
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                                        • $Burm$
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 12-03-09
                                          • 3019

                                          #21
                                          LBJ for the first 3 quarters....durant in the 4th lol
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                                          • Scorpion
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-04-05
                                            • 7797

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TheThreeKings
                                            Durant is not even close to being the complete player that Lebron is.
                                            Please get off LeBrons rooster sir

                                            I bet because of that koksuker you lost a ton on Miami
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                                            • eldoctord
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 06-12-10
                                              • 265

                                              #23
                                              Lebron can defend, rebound, pass, and score....like him or not he is a complete player......how many assists and rebounds does Durant average???
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                                              • PlatinumBerg
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-01-10
                                                • 1058

                                                #24
                                                LeBron is going to be like Allen Iverson. Highly over-rated due to good stats, but is a complete choke artist. I would not be supervised if he ends up just like him and doesn't win a championship.
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                                                • mminkovski
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-22-07
                                                  • 1077

                                                  #25
                                                  LeFold - this says it all. He folds exactly when you need him most - see playoffs last 4 years for reference.
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                                                  • oldscho0led
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-18-11
                                                    • 1407

                                                    #26
                                                    Bron had no jump shots...I worry bout him when he losses his athleticism..lets talk when Bron is in his 30's..I'll take Durant + 6lbs over LeBron anyday of the week
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                                                    • defineentvinny
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 02-28-12
                                                      • 134

                                                      #27
                                                      Lebron over anyone x1000000000000000000 but u can't ask me, I'm a Lebron fan all day
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                                                      • WiseGrumpy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-30-10
                                                        • 3654

                                                        #28
                                                        I don't think you can even compare the two. The King is one of the best defensive and offensive players in the league. KD is unreal offensively and maybe the most dominanent in terms of scoring, but as a complete player, it's not even close.
                                                        KD CAN'T take a team ALONE all the way. The KING CAN. He took a pathetic team and dominated for 7 years. If he would win a ring or two everyone would think that, right now it's only a matter of time.

                                                        KD career:
                                                        26.1 2.8 6.6
                                                        LeBron career:
                                                        27.6 6.9 7.2

                                                        The King improves his all around game every season. More ast more reb more blocks, more steals. KD simply scores more, every season.

                                                        KD is a future HOF, but sadly for him, he won't win a ring for the next 5 years at least, that is saved for the King.
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                                                        • jmbbarata
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 10-08-11
                                                          • 309

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by eldoctord
                                                          Lebron can defend, rebound, pass, and score....like him or not he is a complete player......how many assists and rebounds does Durant average???
                                                          Yes !!! it's a very good opinion!!!
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                                                          • jmbbarata
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 10-08-11
                                                            • 309

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                                            lebron is great in almost every category.
                                                            problem with lebron is he is an elite scorer yet he isnt
                                                            hes elite due to the fact that hes faster/bigger/stronger than most players
                                                            hes not due to the fact that hes not a good shooter, most of his offensive is off dribble penetration, and the finals showed you can limit him offensively
                                                            Yes , it's true,he is a complete player,like Wade or Pierce
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                                                            • You mad bro
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-15-12
                                                              • 16641

                                                              #31
                                                              Look at all these idiots saying lebron is better than Durant ... Please these guys are as about even as they come .. Durant defense got way better and his offensive game is still way better than lebrons ... Durant is longer and just as athletic as lebron .. U just don't see it because lebron it 260 lbs and 2 inches smaller ...

                                                              You can't really compare these 2 cuz for the most part they are even ... However if u out these 2 on the same team other than lebron and wade? Fuhhhgedddabbooouutt it title would be won every year
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                                                              • WiseGrumpy
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-30-10
                                                                • 3654

                                                                #32
                                                                Yesterday you guys saw the pure difference between these two. KD 9 TO? game over. The King can have 10TO and still give what he needs from other areas to win the game. Don't get my wrong KD is a future HOF but the King is the future #1 in the world.
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