John Morrison 2010 NBA

[Stevier100]

Warning betus screwing with the spreads again

I know its all been said before and this is the 3rd piece of evidence i have posted regarding this pathetic sportsbook, be warned about this lot, also, they seemed to have limited my bets now and i didn't want to leave them with any profit from me but i may be forced to leave earlier than i had anticipated, for those of you that haven't bet with them yet then i suggest you make some excuse, pull your money out and go somewhere else more reputable, whatever you do, do not take the bonus otherwise your money will be there a very long time.

Notice in the attachment that the only screwed lines are the JM V1 picks of Denver & Detroit..... Pathetic!!!

[isg2010]

I'm logged in right now and the spreads have been corrected back to the -110. I have noticed that before and called them to complain. I tell companies like this that they better treat the people they already have better than the ones they are trying to get.

[dukipl]

Wonder if Washington will cover the spread... Im sure that LAL wont loose 4 in a row.

[Kev the Brit]

Can you expand on this? Are you taking Washington +16.5 for the game or +3 for the 4th quarter? And do you have a link for this system? Thanks.

I'm taking Washington ATS +3 ( I have them locked in with a small A Bet at +15.5). The other system is James Jones Triple NBA

[ghislaine]

so are You guys betting on WASH tonight ??? really dont know about it...

[ghislaine]

so its Washington, Detroit and Denver right. With all versions...

[Kev the Brit]

ghislaine, JFM's system clearly states that Washington is a no play and JFM should never have published the team as an A Bet, but he did.

However....

It just so happens that another system (JJ), which I mentioned in my last post, has Washington as an A bet within that system using the same betting procedure (A, B and C bet) as JFM. The only difference is that the selected team (this time its Washington) is not tied to consecutive games and the A, B and C bets can span over a few weeks. JFM's system is at the B bet with Washington tonight. JJ's system is at the A bet tonight. If you bet on JFM's A Bet, I would suggest that you bet to win back your lost stake and buy the 3 points, as required by JJ's system. If it wins tonight you will win back approx 60% of your JFM A bet stake (shouldn't be a big problem). If it loses, play JJ's system and you will eventually win that 60% (based on historical stats). I'll keep you guys updated when to play the B bet. JJ's system has not gone to the C bet this year. It is currently 100% and was 100% last year.

Regards
Kev

[Kev the Brit]

so its Washington, Detroit and Denver right. With all versions...

don't forget to play Cleveland (V3 B Bet)

Kev

[ghislaine]

oooh I love You to bits Kev, You just keep making sense !!!
thanks man !

[ghislaine]

that would be CLEVELAND @ Detroit, but its not tonight ??

[Stevier100]

that would be CLEVELAND @ Detroit, but its not tonight ??

Its the C bet on Philly tonight from a V3 JM series already lost to A bet on Minnesota on the 4th Dec and B Bet to Detroit on the 5th Dec!!

[EasyHustlin]

that would be CLEVELAND @ Detroit, but its not tonight ??

Cleveland @ Philadelphia

[krzychu78]

JM's NBA V3 system:

12/06/2010 Oklahoma City @ Chicago - V3, A bet -LOSS

V3 record so far (finished series): 14-0
(A): 10-4
(B): 4-0

V3 play for today:
12/07/2010 Cleveland @ Philadelphia - V3, C bet

[dukipl]

Reminder - JM bets for tonite:
v1 Washington [b bet] vs. LAL (opener +13,5)
v1 Denver [a bet] vs. Charlotte (opener -2)

[krzychu78]

And don't forget:
Detroit @ Houston - V1, A bet

[Kev the Brit]

ghislaine, sorry that should have been Cleveland C Bet V3 tonight.

Regards
Kev the careless

[Stevier100]

Start again lol!!

v1 Denver vs. Charlotte - A bet
v1 Detroit vs Houston - A bet
v1 Washington vs. LA Lakers B bet ( Not advisable Due To worst Team on The Road )
v3 Cleveland vs Philly C Bet

[luzviminda]

I just want to ask anybody who is posting to put the spread numbers when
they are discussing team who win or lost. I cannot follow the post
and what they are talking about when you don't know the spread
for that game. It also help someone who is trying to make
a historical analysis of the game in betting perspective
not winning perspective.

[ghislaine]

thanks everybody, whoops, yup noticed myself it was the C bet now
I think after these few posts in between mine nobody is left clueless as to what to do !!!
Did I say I really really like You Kev !!

[jmjj]

ghislaine, JFM's system clearly states that Washington is a no play and JFM should never have published the team as an A Bet, but he did.

However....

It just so happens that another system (JJ), which I mentioned in my last post, has Washington as an A bet within that system using the same betting procedure (A, B and C bet) as JFM. The only difference is that the selected team (this time its Washington) is not tied to consecutive games and the A, B and C bets can span over a few weeks. JFM's system is at the B bet with Washington tonight. JJ's system is at the A bet tonight. If you bet on JFM's A Bet, I would suggest that you bet to win back your lost stake and buy the 3 points, as required by JJ's system. If it wins tonight you will win back approx 60% of your JFM A bet stake (shouldn't be a big problem). If it loses, play JJ's system and you will eventually win that 60% (based on historical stats). I'll keep you guys updated when to play the B bet. JJ's system has not gone to the C bet this year. It is currently 100% and was 100% last year.

Regards
Kev

another words its a real pleasure to have 2 systems going on the same bet if u get my drift there (meaning makes that unofficial b bet of Johns look a lot more sexier to play lol) so I always like that and I believe it is has happened before and probably wil again before the nba season is over just a heads up to you guys out there

[J.M. Disciple]

V1 Record 13-1 (1 loss was on "A level" and rest of series canceled due to steve nash injury) so V1 = +11 units

v2: 7-1 (1 loss = 16 or 17 units depending what site you bet) which makes v2 = - 10 units

v3: 14-0 (OKC and Cleveland series Pending on B and C levels)

I think we should all keep buying points with the system until someone has back tested it. There is a reason in the first place why JM said to buy 3pts. If buying 3pts didn't have some purpose to his system, then he would not of put it in his PDF file.

I do not think you should only bet on "B" and "C" because "A" bets are doing so well this year. You will be in the negative so far this year if you followed V1, v2, and v3 because v2 had a B and C loss. Most of the series so far this year with all 3 verisions have won on the "A" level. I believe "A" wagers this year are winning around 75%. Maybe last year or the year before you should of only followed B and C but this is a new year and the teams are much different, so follow A B and C.

Bets for today:
v1: [B] Washington +15 vs LAL (unofficial bet due to worst road record) I really like this bet though especially with Pau Gasol probably not playing. LAL has been under performing for the most part recently. Look for LAL to take an early lead and as they said earlier, ease of the gas pedal in the 4th for an easy cover. LaL wins by 8, but Wiz cover.

V3: [C] Cleveland +10 (buying 3pts @betus -170) All though most have doubt in Cleveland they have beat Philly striaght up 9 out of their last 10 meetings. Look for Cavs to cover EASILY!

v1: [a] detroit +10 vs houston. With Battier out for houston with stomach virus he is listed as questionable. He most likely wont play as you seen with orlandos team who had the same problem. (this will be a good game to watch)

v1: [a] denver ML (ML is cheaper then buying 3pts @ -160) What is there to say about this game? Bobcats are a good team, but struggle vs teams with good size. Look for this game to be a blow out.

My guess is that we go 4-0 today. I do not expect any losses today.

My own bets for today are:
Parlay ML: Hawks, Nuggets, DaL, LAL Getting about 1.8 :1 on my money.
Striaght Bets:
Denver -2.5
Pho +2.5

BOL To all.

[isg2010]

I did a 1/2 unit buying 3 pts and parlay with 1/2 unit + Lakes ML on two of the above series. That allows for about a 15 - 20% reduction in money bet. I had not planned on playing the Washington game but will now because of the above. I understand this is of my doing and freewill, though

[jmjj]

V1 Record 13-1 (1 loss was on "A level" and rest of series canceled due to steve nash injury) so V1 = +11 units

v2: 7-1 (1 loss = 16 or 17 units depending what site you bet) which makes v2 = - 10 units

v3: 14-0 (OKC and Cleveland series Pending on B and C levels)

I think we should all keep buying points with the system until someone has back tested it. There is a reason in the first place why JM said to buy 3pts. If buying 3pts didn't have some purpose to his system, then he would not of put it in his PDF file.

I do not think you should only bet on "B" and "C" because "A" bets are doing so well this year. You will be in the negative so far this year if you followed V1, v2, and v3 because v2 had a B and C loss. Most of the series so far this year with all 3 verisions have won on the "A" level. I believe "A" wagers this year are winning around 75%. Maybe last year or the year before you should of only followed B and C but this is a new year and the teams are much different, so follow A B and C.

Bets for today:
v1: [B] Washington +15 vs LAL (unofficial bet due to worst road record) I really like this bet though especially with Pau Gasol probably not playing. LAL has been under performing for the most part recently. Look for LAL to take an early lead and as they said earlier, ease of the gas pedal in the 4th for an easy cover. LaL wins by 8, but Wiz cover.

V3: [C] Cleveland +10 (buying 3pts @betus -170) All though most have doubt in Cleveland they have beat Philly striaght up 9 out of their last 10 meetings. Look for Cavs to cover EASILY!

v1: [a] detroit +10 vs houston. With Battier out for houston with stomach virus he is listed as questionable. He most likely wont play as you seen with orlandos team who had the same problem. (this will be a good game to watch)

v1: [a] denver ML (ML is cheaper then buying 3pts @ -160) What is there to say about this game? Bobcats are a good team, but struggle vs teams with good size. Look for this game to be a blow out.

My guess is that we go 4-0 today. I do not expect any losses today.

My own bets for today are:
Parlay ML: Hawks, Nuggets, DaL, LAL Getting about 1.8 :1 on my money.
Striaght Bets:
Denver -2.5
Pho +2.5

BOL To all.

nice breakdown JM -) Ive got the Pistons game at +6.5 at 2 of the books I use pisses me off instead of at +7 like some other places

[rickbo528]

Hi Kev

Shame we cannot look into how many bets would have failed not buying the points on maybe A & B only

The benefits of buying 3pts indicte to me that loss & reward are in the bookies favour and JM benefits from a Great Statistical % when in fact the system works nothing like what he claims you get!!

What happens if you start the system and have a straight series loss of 16.983pts??? Using the betting strategy below you could go 2 full series loses for the price of one and keeping the risk alot lower, also it seems to only benefit the bookie as when you lose its really big and this system has to be applied long term to see a good return and hopefully you have a good run before having any series losses!!

No pts Risk

1st bet...1.1pts risked to win 1pt (need to win 1pt profit @ 1.1 odds (110 spread -no pts bought) = -1.1pts if lost)

2nd bet... 2.31 risked to win 1pt (need to win -1.1 pts loss and 1pt profit @1.1 odds (110 spread -no pts bought) = -2.31pts if lost)

3rd bet... 4.851 risked to win 1pt (need to win -3.41 pts loss and 1pt profit @1.1 odds (110 spread -no pts bought) = -4.851pts if lost)

Total 3 Bet Series Loss with No pts -1.1 -2.31 -4.851 = 8.261pts
Total 3 Bet Series Loss Buying Pts -1.7 -4.59 -10.693= 16.983pts

I Might look into doing it this way, Opinions please!!!

Using a Labby on the first 2 bets and buying no pts then maybe doing all C bets with 3pts bought keeps your liability 50% lower, you are only -3.31pts if by chance a B bet loses by not buying 3pts and getting earlier prices can save you at least one point IMHO!!

Constructive views appreciated!!

Steve

I haven't been playing JM games much this season but I've been tracking every 3 game trip a team makes whether in conference or out or a mixture of the two. So far only 2 games did buying 3 pts matter. Neither game was a JM out of conference play. Both times it was a western conference vs western conference. Seems like buying pts hasn't been needed so far. Just info here. I lost too much last year to buy 3 pts and have a C bet fail like last year.

[million2one]

Pick your spots, I would bank my money on the Denver series, they are the only team tonight with a winning record.

[EasyHustlin]

I'm going to work on backtesting how often the 3 points come in to play, once I get done with my final exams next week. Several people in this thread think that buying the points is necessary and others (including myself) think it's not. Time to get some data on this and find out.

[luzviminda]

As I go to the thread and put all the resulting games to
a spreadsheet, it seems it is working.
It seems perfect right now, if you don't include
the Phoenix game which the starting player
Steve Nash was out on that 3 games.
It is just how you manage your money and
not trying to catch up your losses is the name of the
game.
I will not bet on the wizard vs lakers, i have no confident
on the wizard, the wizard center is a former
benchwarmer of the Lakers.
I will start again with Denver.

[luzviminda]

Wizard (12.5) vs Lakers
Denver(-1.5) vs Charlote
Detroit (-8.5) vs Houston

[rkelly110]

I haven't been buying points except to get off an even number. Yes, BetUS sucks w/ their
odds for JM's picks. I've complained to no avail.

Of the 21 games of V-1 and 2 the A bet, w/o buying points, other than the hook, has won
15 times, 71%, no chasing. I'll take that ALL year!

I'm betting all 3 of tonights picks in a 6 pt teaser for even money. Instead of buying 3 pts
and having high juice, the 6 point teaser evens things out w/a good chance of hitting.

[Aroostika]

Wizard (12.5) vs Lakers
Denver(-1.5) vs Charlote
Detroit (-8.5) vs Houston

Careful. The Pistons are actually listed as the dogs right now

[krzychu78]

I'll try to do some research about buing points. I've checked season 04/05 so far.
With buying 3 points we have:
V1: 59-2
(A): 41-20
(B): 11-9
(C): 7-2

V2: 30-2
(A): 20-12
(B): 8-4
(C):2-2

V3: 64-1
(A): 45-20
(B): 13-7
(C): 6-1

And the same season WITHOUT buying points:
V1: 52-8
(A): 30-30
(B): 13-17
(C): 9-8

V2: 27-6
(A): 15-18
(B): 6-12
(C): 6-6

V3: 59-5
(A): 38-26
(B): 14-12
(C): 7-5

There are some little differencies in total number of plays in my stats "with" and "without" buying points. Honestly i don't know where do they come from. I've checked them twice and still know nothing.
However i think stats should be quite accurate.
It's just one season so far. I'm going to do some more research if i'll only find some time.

[dukipl]

OK so we got three V1 plays for tonight
GL ALL

[lawalahmed]

Wonder if Washington will cover the spread... Im sure that LAL wont loose 4 in a row.

lakers are 1-5 in their last 6 games when spread is 11 or more

[jmjj]

Careful. The Pistons are actually listed as the dogs right now--between +6.5 and +8.5.

careful? +8.5 where at chief? the corner bookie in queens? geez no site has that line its +7 check the big boys it will keep u on track not corner bookies no one has the line even at +8 I think sometimes people use this forum to confuse people and put up bad info on purpose not here u wont not on my watch peace out

[jmjj]

lakers are 1-5 in their last 6 games when spread is 11 or more

good stuff man and good pt but doesnt really matter b/c systems throw out all of the usual stuff u need to handicap sports with which is why we like these systems