John Morrison 2010 NBA

[swingnamiss]

Greetings!

OK, Noob here. I have been lurking in this thread and thought I would join to ask some questions and get in on the action. You guys seem to be a very knowledgeable lot, so I thought I would start with folks that have been in the game for a bit. I am not a sports better at all. I play poker as well as craps, but the John Morrison system intrigued me enough to 'buy in' to the system. Before funding an account with BetUS, I thought I would do a little more due diligence (some would argue that I should have done that prior to laying out $197... whatever). My questions/issues are these -

- The numbers in the system(his system... if 'John Morrison' even exists) are compelling. If dbv02 is correct, he is way up using the JM system to date - decent data to suggest a winning record. Crunching numbers on that scale should yield some statistically significant trends, and it looks as though this is the case here.
- JM does have a number of high profile (read: fact check'able') names on his sales page that recommend the system.
- JM does have a lot of haters, but who doesn't on the intarwebs, particularly if you are making any money doing anything.

My problems are these:

- Why so tied in with BetUS? If you have a system that works that well, why in hell is a sports book jumping through their @$$ trying to help out a bettor? Shouldn't they be less inclined to help guys that are a 'sure thing' - if the JM system is that good?
- I assume that whoever JM is gets referral dollars for every person and every dollar that is pointed to BetUS, so are we just funding somebodies large scale betting operation? When you get into the magnitude of $5K and $10K per bet, an ABC system has a hell of a lot of cash out there on a 'C' bet so it needs big cash to run.
- Why so much hate for JM's system? I get the distinct impression that every other swinging d*ck out there thinks they have 'the' system, yet... not many guys making a living out of sports betting. If someone follows the system to a 't' and doesn't provide any of their own personal views, might that show as a win at the end of a season?

I'm already in the program so I want to give it a go. If I place an initial deposit with the right house, I can receive a pretty lucrative sign up bonus, so I'm in it with the houses money for a little bit. A $1K deposit should net $500 to play with for a little bit, right?

What I am looking for is if I don't sign up with BetUS, do the JM bots give you a boot from the system? For anyone doing his system, what is a better (better yet, the best) place to sign up for initial deposit bonus, ability to buy points, best lines, etc. that you guys have seen?

I'm glad to share info, picks, system updates, whatnot... just looking for thoughts on the best place to start. I want to get things rolling on the right foot and not start too far in the hole.

Any and all info is greatly appreciated. Thanks everybody - sorry for such a long post right out of the box.

[demens]

Can someone explain what this system is based on?

Portland and sacramento are plays tonight!

Like i cant imagine betting on Sac tonight would be a smart bet for example.

And what does V1, V2 mean. Looking over the spreadsheets i still cant figure it out.

Like this:

okay so we play portland tonight as v2 than v1 the next night?

What does that mean?

And i asked before but no answer, how do you use the system without buying the 3 points?

[mcmister]

10/27/2010 Sacramento-A bet (V2)

Por pho @ lac 2 2 @ nyk 2 @ chi @ mil Sac @ min 2 @ njn @ cle tor

Why isn't Portland a play... "version 2 trumps version 1"?

How about key injuries?

BOL

[Brundle99]

I put a bet on for Sacramento tonight, and good luck to everyone following the JM system plays this year!!!

[Seth]

V2 plays are always a little shaky...I would tread lightly on this one. Not to mention that it's SAC, it reminds me too much of a year or two ago when SAC had a series loss early in the season and JM came up with a bullshit reason as to why the series didn't count. And this was after he had posted the 3 plays...Good luck to those who play.

[GoldenYAK]

only 2010 accounts follow JM.....??

[ramper62]

Maybe this note helps with the POR RD Trip...
- Handling road trips that begin with games within a team's own conference

- Note on consecutive 6-game road trip vs. the opposing conference

Basically, if a team has been playing road game(s) within their own
conference before they start 3 consecutive games vs. 3 opponents
from the opposing conference, then you should only treat the 3-game
series vs. the opposing conference as eligible for play ONLY if
that team has lost ALL of its road games from the beginning of the
road trip by more than 3 points against the spread.
The way to read this Version 2 rule;

>>>Example<<<
Western Conference team starts Road Trip...

10/27 at LAC (W)
10/30 at NY (E)
11/1 at CHI (E)

this would qualify as a Version 2 play, and if they are to lose tonight against the spread by more than 3 points that would make them a version 1 play for the following series

10/30 at NY (E)
11/1 at CHI (E)
11/2 at MIL (E)

...r

and...PS NBA fans...what an opening night we had...MIA bombs out in BOS, PHX scores only 11 pts in the 4th period and loses by 14 at POR, and LAL carries on the tradition of the previous years NBA Finals winner not covering the spread in the first game of the year (works in NFL as well). OK...on Blitzen...on Prancer...to our system games.

[mitchp]

Joanapoker,

The AD and AE Column Will automatically populate with the total win/lose for that series line and you over all profit and lost (you don't enter any thing in those). They will work if you make a A, B, or C bet or any combination.

Hope that helps.
Mitch

[isg2010]

I don't understand this part of ramper62's post:

LAL carries on the tradition of the previous years NBA Finals winner not covering the spread in the first game of the year (works in NFL as well).

Wasn't the line -7.5?

[ramper62]

HOUSTON @ L.A. LAKERS
Final Score
505 HOU 195.5 33 29 20 28 110 Cover: +5
506 LAL « -7 26 25 26 35 112 Over: 222
Line Movements · Recap

MINNESOTA @ NEW ORLEANS
Final Score
451 MIN 49 0 9 0 0 9 Cover: 0.5
452 NOR « -5.5 7 0 7 0 14 Under: 23
Line Movements · Recap · Boxscore

HOU COVER & MIN COVER

[knugen]

Do u guys bet on portland tonight or not?

[figue]

We need buy 3 points ??

[dwang0725]

SkivChief/Tuneman,

I have updated my spreadsheet, the C bet works now. Go back to post #182 and download it again, all should be good now.

Mitch

Mitch,
Great spreadsheet. All the info we need for the JM system. Thanks. Got a question for you... In the "line" column, what are you supposed to enter in there?

[xgame]

Hi guys. JM don't send any more email for v1, v2 pick?

[joanapoker]

Mitch,
Great spreadsheet. All the info we need for the JM system. Thanks. Got a question for you... In the "line" column, what are you supposed to enter in there?

The odd (American line)

example: European 1.91 = -110 american

[JW Cash]

All this Version 1 and Version 2 BS is getting way too complicated.....should I buy 3 points ??

Should I not but 3 points.....

Life is just too short for all these dilemmas...... I mean, really???


All I did last year and what I will do this year.....

I will identify ANY TEAM that starts a 3 game road series ANY PLACE at ANY TIME..... I will NOT
buy 3 points....it is a waste of money...



I will do simply a 2 line Labourchere..........

No chasing....no C Bet....no worries..........know what I'm sayin.......


Got me over 100 units last year.................I expect the same this year.....


Hope This Helps....


Ciao

[dvb02]

I have Portland as a Version 1 play on 10/30/2010 because I feel that version 1 trumps version 2. If you want, you could play both, but I would not recommend it.

[jmaldonado]

Mitchp, thanks for the spreadsheet and as everyone can agree, it is great.

one question i have, is there anything i should do if i am using a Macbook (Excel 2004)? when i click on the links i am getting an error message and not being brought to my browser. let me know if you know of anything i can do to resolve this. not sure if the data is going to update via the web, since the links are not working. i guess time will tell.

thanks,
JM

[Freddo]

dvb02 Nice win with the Kings tonight way to start the season. Thanks for all your work in getting this thread going this year. Some points are on your way

[JW Cash]

Sacramento Kings.................winna winna ...spaghetti and meatball dinna......

[jcygts6]

All this Version 1 and Version 2 BS is getting way too complicated.....should I buy 3 points ??

Should I not but 3 points.....

Life is just too short for all these dilemmas...... I mean, really???


All I did last year and what I will do this year.....

I will identify ANY TEAM that starts a 3 game road series ANY PLACE at ANY TIME..... I will NOT
buy 3 points....it is a waste of money...

I will do simply a 2 line Labourchere..........

No chasing....no C Bet....no worries..........know what I'm sayin.......


Got me over 100 units last year.................I expect the same this year.....


Hope This Helps....


Ciao

How do you do a 2- line labby?

I use a 3 line labby.

Ok let's get to examples and how it works.


For this example we'll say that we have a 3 game system and you're going to start with a $100. Remember we always bet the total of the outside 2 numbers as highlighted below..

Game 1: 50-50-50-50
Game 2: 50-50-50-50
Game 3: 50-50-50-50

Our first bet will now bet to WIN 100. We will no longer be betting risk but to WIN. Let's say your team was-150 and they lost. Instead of putting the 150 on the end of line 1 and having a situation where your next game 1 bet is already double what your original bet was we're going to SPLIT the 150 in two and put 75 on line 1 and DROP 75 down to line 2. Your lines will now look like this:

Game 1: 50-50-50-50-75
Game 2: 50-50-50-50-75
Game 3: 50-50-50-50

We are Splitting the loss amount for 2 reasons. 1. We want to prevent 1 bad run from making our lines completely out of control in comparison to our bankroll. 2. We want to take advantage of the fact that most system plays get stronger from game 1 to 2 to 3.


So instead of just relying on Game 1 to pick up our losses why not let game 2, typically a stronger game, do some of the work and get back part of your game 1 losses? It makes sense and it works.


How do you handle multiple games? Well lets say for example that you had two game
2's today and you were using the line above that called for a $125 WIN wager. If you have an early game and a late game you would bet the 125 on the early game and after the results you would adjust your line according to the results and bet your late game by what the line calls for. Let's say you have a 7pm eastern and a 10:05 eastern. You bet 180 to win 125 on your early game and it loses.....your game 2 line would be: 50-50-50-50-75-90
and your Game 3 line would be: 50-50-50-50-90 (remember we split the total of your game 2 loss and keep half on the game 2 line and drop half to game 3.


So the wager on your late game would be to WIN 140. If that wins you'd adjust your game 2 line accordingly: X-50-50-50-75-X


What if, going back to the game 2 line of: 50-50-50-50-75, both of our games are 7pm eastern and there is not time gap. Very simple I play all games to whatever the line calls for at that time. If I had 3 game 2's and they were all 7pm I would play them all to win 125 and adjust my lines at the end of the day according to the results.


Are you starting to get the hang of it?


Q: How do I adjust my line at the end of the day with varying amounts?


A: Lets use our lines.....

Game 1 - 50-50-50-50
Game 2 - 50-50-50-50
Game 3 - 50-50-50-50

So we have 3 game 1's starting today we risk 150 to win 100, we risk 105 to win 100, and we risk 130 to win 100. The -150 game wins and the other 2 lose so here is how we adjust our lines.........


First subtract your winner and your game 1 would look like below.

Game 1 - X-50-50-X

Game 2 - 50-50-50-50

Game 3 - 50-50-50-50

Next, add the losing wagers to your lines......you lost 105 and 130 so you would add 65(130/2) and 53(105/2 rounded up) I add the smallest number first then the larger so now your lines after the days wagers would look like:

Game 1 - X-50-50-53-65

Game 2 - 50-50-50-50-53-65

Game 3 - 50-50-50-50

Now for game 2 lets say you just bet both games to WIN 115. (You have that option. For those of you who like to put your bets in early and i do this all the time...I just make all my bets for the day at whatever the line calls for so in this case all my game 2's would be

to win 115.


If both of your Game 2 wagers win simply adjust your lines and get ready for your next qualifying plays. Here is what your final lines would look like after your game 2 winners.
Since you won 2 games you would clear out two sets of winning numbers.

Game 1 - X-50-50-53-65

Game 2 - X-X-50-50-X-X

Game 3 - 50-50-50-50

Overall if you understand the Labourchere, you'll understand this. All you're doing is betting to win and if you lose your wager take your total wager/2 and put half on the line you were on and slide half down to the next line. If you are on a game 3 of 3 and it loses....put half the total on your game 3 line and bring the other half up to game 1 line.


Credit goes to PSIC

[joanapoker]

Joanapoker,

The AD and AE Column Will automatically populate with the total win/lose for that series line and you over all profit and lost (you don't enter any thing in those). They will work if you make a A, B, or C bet or any combination.

Hope that helps.
Mitch

I've PM you!

still problems in my AD an AE column!

thx for the help

[dvb02]

Nice win last night! and Freddo, thanks for the points.

Next plays are on 10/30

[bauerranch]

Thanks Dvb02

[dvb02]

Thanks Dvb02

No problem. Let's just win some money!

[windguy]

Nice work!!!

[F.Lucena]

How much is the Units that he recomends to Play A, B and C?

I knew, but I forgot.

Nobody knows???

[mitchp]

JM,

Glad you like the Spreadsheet. Just so I completely understand, when you open the file you are not getting any the information automatically update in the Injury or Efficiency tabs? The issue of Mac vs PC is probably in play if that is the problem, let me do some research on it. Hopefully the tracking tab still works for you. I'll get back to you - please send me a PM with your email and I will contact you with some resolution (hopefully).

Mitch

[mitchp]

Dvb02,

you may have already answered this but who are you using to place your bets?

Mitch

[lennytia]

How do you do a 2- line labby? I use a 3 line labby.

Ok let's get to examples and how it works. For this example we'll say that we have a 3 game system and you're going to start with a $100. Remember we always bet the total of the outside 2 numbers as highlighted below..

Game 1: 50-50-50-50 Game 2: 50-50-50-50 Game 3: 50-50-50-50

Our first bet will now bet to WIN 100. We will no longer be betting risk but to WIN. Let's say your team was-150 and they lost. Instead of putting the 150 on the end of line 1 and having a situation where your next game 1 bet is already double what your original bet was we're going to SPLIT the 150 in two and put 75 on line 1 and DROP 75 down to line 2. Your lines will now look like this:

Game 1: 50-50-50-50-75 Game 2: 50-50-50-50-75 Game 3: 50-50-50-50

We are Splitting the loss amount for 2 reasons. 1. We want to prevent 1 bad run from making our lines completely out of control in comparison to our bankroll. 2. We want to take advantage of the fact that most system plays get stronger from game 1 to 2 to 3. So instead of just relying on Game 1 to pick up our losses why not let game 2, typically a stronger game, do some of the work and get back part of your game 1 losses? It makes sense and it works. How do you handle multiple games? Well lets say for example that you had two game 2's today and you were using the line above that called for a $125 WIN wager. If you have an early game and a late game you would bet the 125 on the early game and after the results you would adjust your line according to the results and bet your late game by what the line calls for. Let's say you have a 7pm eastern and a 10:05 eastern. You bet 180 to win 125 on your early game and it loses.....your game 2 line would be: 50-50-50-50-75-90 and your Game 3 line would be: 50-50-50-50-90 (remember we split the total of your game 2 loss and keep half on the game 2 line and drop half to game 3. So the wager on your late game would be to WIN 140. If that wins you'd adjust your game 2 line accordingly: X-50-50-50-75-X What if, going back to the game 2 line of: 50-50-50-50-75, both of our games are 7pm eastern and there is not time gap. Very simple I play all games to whatever the line calls for at that time. If I had 3 game 2's and they were all 7pm I would play them all to win 125 and adjust my lines at the end of the day according to the results. Are you starting to get the hang of it? Q: How do I adjust my line at the end of the day with varying amounts? A: Lets use our lines.....

Game 1 - 50-50-50-50 Game 2 - 50-50-50-50 Game 3 - 50-50-50-50

So we have 3 game 1's starting today we risk 150 to win 100, we risk 105 to win 100, and we risk 130 to win 100. The -150 game wins and the other 2 lose so here is how we adjust our lines......... First subtract your winner and your game 1 would look like below.

Game 1 - X-50-50-X Game 2 - 50-50-50-50 Game 3 - 50-50-50-50

Next, add the losing wagers to your lines......you lost 105 and 130 so you would add 65(130/2) and 53(105/2 rounded up) I add the smallest number first then the larger so now your lines after the days wagers would look like:

Game 1 - X-50-50-53-65 Game 2 - 50-50-50-50-53-65 Game 3 - 50-50-50-50

Now for game 2 lets say you just bet both games to WIN 115. (You have that option. For those of you who like to put your bets in early and i do this all the time...I just make all my bets for the day at whatever the line calls for so in this case all my game 2's would be to win 115. If both of your Game 2 wagers win simply adjust your lines and get ready for your next qualifying plays. Here is what your final lines would look like after your game 2 winners. Since you won 2 games you would clear out two sets of winning numbers.

Game 1 - X-50-50-53-65 Game 2 - X-X-50-50-X-X Game 3 - 50-50-50-50

Overall if you understand the Labourchere, you'll understand this. All you're doing is betting to win and if you lose your wager take your total wager/2 and put half on the line you were on and slide half down to the next line. If you are on a game 3 of 3 and it loses....put half the total on your game 3 line and bring the other half up to game 1 line. Credit goes to PSIC

Now that I understand it, this is the way to go i think

[dwendling]

does anyone know where to find a spreadsheet for jm nba system from last year. i want to see how it finished

[ManBearPig]

I haven't been following these lately, but I know one of the changes in v3 is the play isn't limited to a team going on a road trip to the opposite conference. Play all road trips that meet the criteria regardless. I have a document at home and that's all I can remember off the top of my head.

[dogs1972]

Can we get the Version 3, 3 road games regardless of the the conferences added to the spread sheet?

[JW Cash]

Now that I understand it, this is the way to go i think

Yes, my man...its definately the way to go....

[dvb02]

does anyone know where to find a spreadsheet for jm nba system from last year. i want to see how it finished

This may be what you are looking for. It is pretty accurate (you may have to disregard some of the notes I put in the spreadsheet).