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  • Kev the Brit
    SBR MVP
    • 10-25-09
    • 2027

    #5496
    Why are you guys playing Orlando? They won the A Bet on the ML, as per JM's official system. If you are a B/C bettor you didn't lose any money on the A Bet, so you should then have passed on the B bet because the series was officially complete. If you bet on Orlando on the ATS+3 on the A Bet you should really view it as a series loss of a few units. There was no obligation on anyone to play Orlando last night. Now, you all have a problem.

    See my post #5440

    Kev the Sage
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    • J.M. Disciple
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-16-10
      • 5154

      #5497
      Some people need to keep their emotions intact. Sports betting is not a 1 bet 1 day thing. You have to treat it like the stock market and be in it for the entire season. Can't get up set about a couple losing days. I guess its a little easier for me cause it goes with my poker back ground. We have two C bets coming up that should be profitable. All though I think ORL is an unofficial C bet.

      We have 7 A bets tomorrow

      JM NBA:
      03/12/2011 Philadelphia @ Milwaukee- V2, A bet
      03/12/2011 San Antonio @ Houston- V3, A bet



      JW HOCKEY
      MTL away [A] under
      TOR home [A] under
      NJD home [A] under
      NSH home under [A]
      NYR away under BIG! [A] *lost the last series, so this one should be $$$
      *im treating NYR as a D bet. They have not had 4 unders in a row on the road all season.
      Lock in Load!


      SBP will both be [A] bets tomorrow.
      There is also a chase B bet tomorrow.
      nothing for JM NHL.
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      • J.M. Disciple
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-16-10
        • 5154

        #5498
        Originally posted by Kev the Brit
        Why are you guys playing Orlando? They won the A Bet on the ML, as per JM's official system. If you are a B/C bettor you didn't lose any money on the A Bet, so you should then have passed on the B bet because the series was officially complete. If you bet on Orlando on the ML on the A Bet you should really view it as a series loss of a few units. There was no obligation on anyone to play Orlando last night. Now, you all have a problem.

        See my post #5440

        Kev the Sage

        I agree, but most of us don't play -500 money lines here. We continue at our own risk and list it as an unofficial play. I am still going to make a C bet on ORL and INDY when the time comes. It is still profitable doing so with out playing ML and just buying 3pts. If we lose then we lose. Not a big deal. We will show more profit buying 3pts and continue with the series long run then playing ML. Im pretty sure WILBA did the back testing on this in the past.
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        • Kev the Brit
          SBR MVP
          • 10-25-09
          • 2027

          #5499
          Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
          I agree, but most of us don't play -500 money lines here. We continue at our own risk and list it as an unofficial play. I am still going to make a C bet on ORL and INDY when the time comes. It is still profitable doing so with out playing ML and just buying 3pts. If we lose then we lose. Not a big deal. We will show more profit buying 3pts and continue with the series long run then playing ML. Im pretty sure WILBA did the back testing on this in the past.
          You didn't list the B bet as unofficial, but thats not the core issue. You say that a series loss can be accommodated. Not really, if its unavoidable. With 150 series per season, we cannot afford to lose more than 7 series (at 20 units per loss). I'm standing on 5 losses at the moment. Some folk are on 6 losses. Orlando had a complication at the earliest stage, therefore everyone should have passed on the A Bet. The only possible reason, IMHO, for anyone to play the B Bet on Orlando last night was if that person had played and lost the A Bet on the ATS+3 line.

          Kev
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #5500
            Chase 110
            2010-11 System to date: 69-0
            System Rules can be found in post #5000
            System Backtest can be found in post #5000

            (3/11/11) Charlotte (+4½) (A) – Win
            (3/11/11) Indiana (M/L) (A)–Loss
            (3/11/11) Atlanta (+7 ½) (A) -Loss

            (A) 42-29
            (B) 16-11
            (C) 8-3
            (D) 3-0


            Next games:
            (3/12/11) Portland @ Atlanta Hawks (B)
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            • GGPLAYER
              SBR MVP
              • 03-26-09
              • 2981

              #5501
              Originally posted by GoGooners
              Come on magic.. Unbelievable shooting by gsw damn

              Last night sucked so bad for me. I lost 4 games in OT!! 3 of them had big leads. Orl was just the icing on the cake. Looking for a huge rebound today!
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              • krzychu78
                SBR Sharp
                • 01-08-10
                • 291

                #5502
                JM's NBA system:
                03/11/2011 Orlando @ Golden State- V1, B bet - LOSS
                03/11/2011 Indiana @ Toronto - V3, B bet - LOSS


                V1record so far (finished series): 50-3
                (A): 26-27
                (B): 20-7
                (C): 4-3
                Lost series:
                PHO 11/17-20
                DET 12/07-10
                UTA 01/17-21

                V2 record so far (finished series): 24-1
                (A): 14-11
                (B): 4-7
                (C): 6-1
                Lost series:
                MIN 10/30-11/03

                V3 record so far (finished series): 47-2
                (A): 26-22-1 (W-L-P)
                (B): 18-4-1
                (W-L-P)
                (C): 3-1-1 (W-L-P)
                Lost series:
                CLE 12/04-07
                TOR 01/29-02/02 (B bet and C bet were pushes according to covers.com)

                Next JM's plays:
                03/12/2011 Philadelphia @ Milwaukee- V2, A bet
                03/12/2011 San Antonio @ Houston- V3, A bet
                03/13/2011 Oklahoma City @ Cleveland- V1, A bet
                03/13/2011 Charlotte @ Toronto- V2, A bet
                03/13/2011 Minnesota @ Golden State- V3, A bet
                03/13/2011 Orlando @ Phoenix- V1, C bet
                03/13/2011 Indiana @ New York - V3, C bet
                03/14/2011 Denver @ New Orleans- V1, A bet
                03/16/2011 Cleveland @ Sacramento- V1, A bet
                03/18/2011 Boston @ Houston- V2, A bet
                03/18/2011 Golden State @ Phoenix- V3, A bet
                03/19/2011 Indiana @ Memphis- V3, A bet
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                • Wallco99
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-01-11
                  • 7261

                  #5503
                  Chase 110 - Plays for 3/12/11
                  2010-11 System to date: 69-0
                  System Rules can be found in post #5000
                  System Backtest can be found in post #5000



                  Portland @ Atlanta Hawks (-1) (B)
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                  • vividjohn45
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-21-10
                    • 6331

                    #5504
                    man this is a bunch of plays. how can you guys afford this.
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                    • pkaks14
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 01-27-11
                      • 15

                      #5505
                      for JW Hockey are the u/o picks the team total pick or for game total pick

                      Thanks keep up the great work!
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                      • eyeball
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-14-07
                        • 988

                        #5506
                        Being new here who is JW?
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                        • pkaks14
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 01-27-11
                          • 15

                          #5507
                          check out J.M. Disciple's posts
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                          • clamchowder
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 02-26-11
                            • 471

                            #5508
                            Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                            Why are you guys playing Orlando? They won the A Bet on the ML, as per JM's official system. If you are a B/C bettor you didn't lose any money on the A Bet, so you should then have passed on the B bet because the series was officially complete. If you bet on Orlando on the ATS+3 on the A Bet you should really view it as a series loss of a few units. There was no obligation on anyone to play Orlando last night. Now, you all have a problem.

                            See my post #5440

                            Kev the Sage
                            For the ones who have JM's V1 system, it calls for Orlando to buy 3pts. Orlando didn't cover the Sac game. The spread was 6.5 after buying 3pts. They won by 4. So it's on to bet B with the Warriors last night. Next bet will be in Phoenix tomorrow. So V1 was a play last night.
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                            • clamchowder
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 02-26-11
                              • 471

                              #5509
                              Originally posted by vividjohn45
                              man this is a bunch of plays. how can you guys afford this.
                              Money management is the only way to play. Use your discipline Luke. Resist temptations.
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                              • Wallco99
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-01-11
                                • 7261

                                #5510
                                Originally posted by clamchowder
                                For the ones who have JM's V1 system, it calls for Orlando to buy 3pts. Orlando didn't cover the Sac game. The spread was 6.5 after buying 3pts. They won by 4. So it's on to bet B with the Warriors last night. Next bet will be in Phoenix tomorrow. So V1 was a play last night.
                                Actually, no it wasn't, reread your .pdf. Kevin is correct.
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                                • COYLO
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-18-10
                                  • 2844

                                  #5511
                                  can someone please confirm if it was or wasnt a play ??? i have my bank riding on the c bet if its not a play i can move on.
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                                  • COYLO
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-18-10
                                    • 2844

                                    #5512
                                    by my understanding they were -6 ats on the sac game so that was a ML play which they won. no b bet, **** me i gotta take my time and study this shit rather than follow blindly.
                                    everyone should do that too we cant cry at other people for making the mistakes were big boys.
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                                    • J.M. Disciple
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-16-10
                                      • 5154

                                      #5513
                                      ITS AN unofficial play. We discussed earlier in the thread that we were going to buy 3pts and continue with that series from there. If you want to use the BS filters he added to the system and play the -500 ML then go ahead and do that. Its been back tested though it will be less profitable once a ML series is lost, especially when you are getting huge ML plays. This system was profitable before that BS ML filter was ever put in.

                                      You should never have your bankroll riding on a C bet. It should only be about 9 units riding on a C bet if you were betting correctly.

                                      If you were betting small to win $20 per series it looks like this:
                                      A = $34 to win $20 (-170 odds @ betus.com)
                                      B = $91.80 to win $54
                                      C = I believe its $247 to win $146
                                      so i guess C is aprox 12.5 units to win 7.25 units.
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                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-16-10
                                        • 5154

                                        #5514
                                        Originally posted by pkaks14
                                        for JW Hockey are the u/o picks the team total pick or for game total pick

                                        Thanks keep up the great work!
                                        game total.
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                                        • J.M. Disciple
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-16-10
                                          • 5154

                                          #5515
                                          Originally posted by COYLO
                                          can someone please confirm if it was or wasnt a play ??? i have my bank riding on the c bet if its not a play i can move on.

                                          When the system was back tested, it was back tested with buying 3pts. Not playing the ML. There for the C bet with INDY and ORL both have a 80% chance of hitting, so both are really good bets to say the least.
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                                          • COYLO
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-18-10
                                            • 2844

                                            #5516
                                            i know its risky jm but its like $500 to 10k in 30-40 bets if i keep doubling up each time. i probably do need to sit down and work out a better money management strategy and play the long game ie 10k for the year rather than 30 - 40 bets.
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                                            • eyeball
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 08-14-07
                                              • 988

                                              #5517
                                              Several of you guys here that are doing these chase systems, deserve a lot of credit . I know it's a lot of work, for myself I thank you very much for doing this.
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                                              • Kev the Brit
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-25-09
                                                • 2027

                                                #5518
                                                Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                ITS AN unofficial play. We discussed earlier in the thread that we were going to buy 3pts and continue with that series from there. If you want to use the BS filters he added to the system and play the -500 ML then go ahead and do that. Its been back tested though it will be less profitable once a ML series is lost, especially when you are getting huge ML plays. This system was profitable before that BS ML filter was ever put in. You should never have your bankroll riding on a C bet. It should only be about 9 units riding on a C bet if you were betting correctly. If you were betting small to win $20 per series it looks like this: A = $34 to win $20 (-170 odds @ betus.com) B = $91.80 to win $54 C = I believe its $247 to win $146 so i guess C is aprox 12.5 units to win 7.25 units.
                                                "Its an unofficial play"

                                                Its too late to say that. Check your post (#5499) where you listed Orlando as a B bet. There is absolutely no mention of it being an unofficial play.

                                                I've reminded you before about this.

                                                JMD, if you take it upon yourself to publish the daily plays, then you must do it correctly and in line with the system creators' rules. If you list something that is not in accordance with the creator's current rules, you must say so, right there and then on the list. Real people are playing with real money here. You cannot possibly rely on people knowing what was discussed here many weeks ago. COYLO's dilemma is a point in question. If you had written, "unofficial", he would have been better informed.

                                                Regards

                                                Kev
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                                                • stevex
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 05-02-10
                                                  • 5122

                                                  #5519
                                                  Use a labby for money management.....

                                                  HAVE NO WORRIES.

                                                  Kev, that time of the month AGAIN? Thought you where over that?
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                                                  • COYLO
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-18-10
                                                    • 2844

                                                    #5520
                                                    kev is right , but the fault also lays at the feet of the bettors too if we follow blindly we gotta take it on the chin. like kev said maybe stating official or unofficial play would help alot.

                                                    i appreciate all the help provided by everyone on here
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                                                    • clamchowder
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 02-26-11
                                                      • 471

                                                      #5521
                                                      Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                      Actually, no it wasn't, reread your .pdf. Kevin is correct.
                                                      Could you explain to me why Orlando was ML play vice buying 3pts? I don't have the pdf with me. I didn't receive an email from JM saying Orlando was ML. I got an email from him saying Orlando and Detroit were plays and buy 3pts. Then the next day, he sent an email saying we went 2 for 2 with Detroit and Orlando ML.
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                                                      • Wallco99
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-01-11
                                                        • 7261

                                                        #5522
                                                        Originally posted by COYLO
                                                        can someone please confirm if it was or wasnt a play ??? i have my bank riding on the c bet if its not a play i can move on.
                                                        I thought I already did.
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                                                        • Wallco99
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-01-11
                                                          • 7261

                                                          #5523
                                                          Originally posted by COYLO
                                                          by my understanding they were -6 ats on the sac game so that was a ML play which they won. no b bet, **** me i gotta take my time and study this shit rather than follow blindly.
                                                          everyone should do that too we cant cry at other people for making the mistakes were big boys.
                                                          The word "optional" next to the posted plays that are not following the actual rules would solve a lot of the confusion.
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                                                          • jazzbrownie
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 03-02-11
                                                            • 28

                                                            #5524
                                                            Bet on San Antonio kind of early and played the moneyline @ -120 b/c they were -1.5. Now they're at +1... if those of you who buy points and get +3 win the bet but I lose, I guess the system wins and I'm just SOL?
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #5525
                                                              Chase 110 - Plays for 3/12/11
                                                              2010-11 System to date: 69-0
                                                              System Rules can be found in post #5000
                                                              System Backtest can be found in post #5000



                                                              Portland @ Atlanta Hawks (M/L) (B)
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                                                              • COYLO
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-18-10
                                                                • 2844

                                                                #5526
                                                                Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                I thought I already did.
                                                                you did but other people said different. its just getting a bit confusing, your daily input in here and with other systems is apreciated wallco
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                                                                • clamchowder
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 02-26-11
                                                                  • 471

                                                                  #5527
                                                                  Where can I find JM's official rules for V1 system?
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                                                                  • jphil
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 07-12-09
                                                                    • 757

                                                                    #5528
                                                                    NBA_Betting_System[1].pdf (v1-07/08)

                                                                    JM NBA 1.pdf (v1-08/09)

                                                                    JM NBA 2010.pdf (v1,2-09/10)

                                                                    nba3syss[1].pdf (v1,2,3-09/10)



                                                                    V1 = a road series where all 3 opponents are in the opposite conference
                                                                    V2 = a road series where only 2 opponents are in the opposite conference
                                                                    V3 = a road series where only 1, or none of the opponents is in the opposite conference



                                                                    Updated v1 says to play ML when the spread is -3 or greater (-4,-5,etc.).

                                                                    Original v1 does not have the -3 rule. Just buy 3 pts.




                                                                    OT: How many x do the unoff./optional suggestions have to be debated before possibly being incorporated into the jm stats(when applicable), as it should be?
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                                                                    • atari5200
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 09-15-10
                                                                      • 464

                                                                      #5529
                                                                      Indiana...I absolutely hate betting against the NYK. We have no clue which Knick team will show up, my feeling is that it'll be the hot hand lights out team that'll run the score over the these struggling pacers. Pinny's got +8 for the pacers.

                                                                      I wish the suspension against Amare stuck, then we woulda had a nicer C bet.
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                                                                      • 1gamer
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 02-09-11
                                                                        • 723

                                                                        #5530
                                                                        CHASE 110...CASH IT!
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