Is it Mandatory for Lebron to win the title this upcoming season?

[sweetjones55]

Yeah and Artest is going to guard Lebron

Haslem is one of the best low post defenders in the NBA if you haven't noticed and should be able to contain Gasol to his usual 20 10 and 5. Those will be his MAX stats in a 7 game series being played by Bosh/Haslem.

Bynum? Please man, don't get me started.

I agree Haslem can definitely hold his own with Gasol, it's a mismatch but not a big one. Bynum's knees can't survive a whole NBA season. I won't be too worried about him in the NBA Finals because he will be playing at 60% by then. Joel Anthony is a great under-rated defender also who can come in and hold his own as well with Gasol or Bynum.

[nikeboyz]

People we have some good centers on the heat why do people keep naming Haslem as the center ???

Also I expect a big year from Bosh he keep saying he has 7 years to make up and I believe him

[lyon804]

Let's think about the intangibles. Regardless of the Heat's roster talent there are plenty of teams in NBA history that did not win a championship when they had the best talent. It's a matter of how it all comes together and the sacrifice of ones stats and Prestige within the game to make it work. If the Heat do that and play within the team concept with some scoring and production off the bench no doubt they make the Finals. Again, though are they really better than the Lakers? I'll have to see it to believe it.

[Preston09]

I would say yes

[Goat Milk]

Let's think about the intangibles. Regardless of the Heat's roster talent there are plenty of teams in NBA history that did not win a championship when they had the best talent. It's a matter of how it all comes together and the sacrifice of ones stats and Prestige within the game to make it work. If the Heat do that and play within the team concept with some scoring and production off the bench no doubt they make the Finals. Again, though are they really better than the Lakers? I'll have to see it to believe it.

Lyon these aren't some talented scrubs that are just coming together. Its not like a NCAA kentucky team where you just have talent and more talent and you don't win. We are witnessing two of the best 15 players in NBA history playing together on 1 team.

Lyon whether you like to admit it or not, Wade and Lebron will both go down as top 15 players in NBA history. Think about that bro. It is a scary thought. And we are lucky to be witnessing something like this is Sports today. We were lucky to witness Jordan, then Kobe, and now this.

Lyon these two are in their primes right now. They are winners. They have the intangibles. They aren't guys like Carmello Anthony or Durants that strictly play offense and no defense. These guys know defense wins championships and Kobe taught them that during the Olympics.

Pat Riley is a winner, Haslem is a winner, Wade is a winner, Lebron and Big Z have been right there but haven't had the glory yet, Juwann Howard has been right there too, these 3 I just mentioned are strictly about intangibles and nothing else.

[hels]

The Heat will either be the dominate force this year that no one can play with or a complete flop that is the laughing stock of all time.

[N.O.S.]

The Heat will either be the dominate force this year that no one can play with or a complete flop that is the laughing stock of all time.

Give me the laughing stock please.

[Goat Milk]

Give me the laughing stock please.

another one just for you LakerBoy

[lyon804]

Lyon these aren't some talented scrubs that are just coming together. Its not like a NCAA kentucky team where you just have talent and more talent and you don't win. We are witnessing two of the best 15 players in NBA history playing together on 1 team.

Lyon whether you like to admit it or not, Wade and Lebron will both go down as top 15 players in NBA history. Think about that bro. It is a scary thought. And we are lucky to be witnessing something like this is Sports today. We were lucky to witness Jordan, then Kobe, and now this.

Lyon these two are in their primes right now. They are winners. They have the intangibles. They aren't guys like Carmello Anthony or Durants that strictly play offense and no defense. These guys know defense wins championships and Kobe taught them that during the Olympics.

Pat Riley is a winner, Haslem is a winner, Wade is a winner, Lebron and Big Z have been right there but haven't had the glory yet, Juwann Howard has been right there too, these 3 I just mentioned are strictly about intangibles and nothing else.

Oh, I get. What you want me to do man? You want me to suck there dick? THEY HAVEN'T EVEN SUITED UP TO PLAY A GAME YET. Take it from me.. I am objective, besides I don't suck black athletes dicks. Let's see how they respond to some adversity. Overcoming obstacles and injuries is a big part of being a champion. I know you love these hero's of yours but they ain't the 72-10 Bulls. You have bought the hype. I think I will wait to they win a championship before I crown there ass.


Oh, btw you way off on Durant. I would take him over any of the above mentioned hero's... Go tell your boy (Kobe) Durant don't play defense. See what he says.

[sweetjones55]

Oh, I get. What you want me to do man? You want me to suck there dick? THEY HAVEN'T EVEN SUITED UP TO PLAY A GAME YET. Oh, btw you way off on Durant. I would take him over any of the above mentioned hero's... Go tell your boy (Kobe) Durant don't play defense. See what he says.

They actually have played all together before twice. They won Gold in the Olympics once and won the rookies vs sophomore game. lol

I gotta agree with you on Durant though. He definitely played defense and showed that in the NBA Playoffs. Now would I take him above LeBron James? Absolutely not.

[lyon804]

They actually have played all together before twice. They won Gold in the Olympics once and won the rookies vs sophomore game. lol

I gotta agree with you on Durant though. He definitely played defense and showed that in the NBA Playoffs. Now would I take him above LeBron James? Absolutely not.

Sweet, how about if you switched Kristic/Gasol? Would OKC not been champions? Personally, had Lakers not beat out OKC imo they would have advanced to the Finals.

Durant showed way more heart in the 'playoffs' than Lebron and he never bitched about his teammates and coaches. Never felt the need to self promote himself. He deflects the hype. He is a basketball player that is a winner. He signed a nice extension with OKC without fanfare and hype. If OKC ever gets a big watch out.


We can go back and forth all we want about Miami's dream team but I think it is premature to crown them just yet. I am sure the Lakers will have something to say. BTW, you only have 2 meaningful players in Wade and Lebron. Come playoff time Bosh will be absent against the better more physical teams.

Another thing.. Last I checked you had to make some jumpers in the playoffs since refs tend to allow more physical play. Last I checked Lebron and Wade both have suspect jumpers that come and go. Sure they might light it up, but they are just as likely to be off.

I doubt very seriosuly that Wade and Lebron both have it going at the same time in a playoff series against a serious contender.



Again, I will wait for them to win a title before I crown them.

[Goat Milk]

Oh, I get. What you want me to do man? You want me to suck there dick? THEY HAVEN'T EVEN SUITED UP TO PLAY A GAME YET. Take it from me.. I am objective, besides I don't suck black athletes dicks. Let's see how they respond to some adversity. Overcoming obstacles and injuries is a big part of being a champion. I know you love these hero's of yours but they ain't the 72-10 Bulls. You have bought the hype. I think I will wait to they win a championship before I crown there ass.


Oh, btw you way off on Durant. I would take him over any of the above mentioned hero's... Go tell your boy (Kobe) Durant don't play defense. See what he says.

What the fuk are you talking about? Whose dick am I sucking? I have bought the hype?

LOOK THE FUKK AROUND YOU BUDDY!!! EVERYONE AND THEIR MOM ON THIS SITE THINKS THE HEAT WILL BE A FAILURE.

This team would shit on the 72-10 Bulls. I am the one being objective, you are the one living in the past.

You would take Durant over Wade and Lebron? Go ask Durant if he played D on Kobe? My niggga Lyon Kobe saved all his energy this year for the finals. What did he do against Durant? Take Fadeaway Jumpers the WHOLE GAME my man. The whole time. Kobe could have easily taken him off the dribble if he didn't want to conserve that knee for the rest of the playoffs.

Durant playing defense is laughable. Stop being a Shoebox J.R. I'm sick of people making remarks like this about me asking my "heros". I am a fan first, a gambler second.

And Lyon, go look at the threads around you before you say I bought the hype. I know what the fuk i'm talking about. I'm pretty sure only 3 people on the whole board have come out tand said the Heat will win it all next year and 2 of those people include me and Sweet Jones. Go look how everyone is saying "the heat will be a bust" then report back here my man.

[Goat Milk]

you know what bro that's fine "continue to say I suck black dick" . you shoebox and lakerboy can start a club for it because you all seem to use the same phrases.

I will just brush it off and get yet another prediction right as I always do. no one is crowning anyone, these are predictions. Everyone wants to try and be a hero and say the Heat won't get far.

[lyon804]

What the fuk are you talking about? Whose dick am I sucking? I have bought the hype?

LOOK THE FUKK AROUND YOU BUDDY!!! EVERYONE AND THEIR MOM ON THIS SITE THINKS THE HEAT WILL BE A FAILURE.

This team would shit on the 72-10 Bulls. I am the one being objective, you are the one living in the past.

You would take Durant over Wade and Lebron? Go ask Durant if he played D on Kobe? My niggga Lyon Kobe saved all his energy this year for the finals. What did he do against Durant? Take Fadeaway Jumpers the WHOLE GAME my man. The whole time. Kobe could have easily taken him off the dribble if he didn't want to conserve that knee for the rest of the playoffs.

Durant playing defense is laughable. Stop being a Shoebox J.R. I'm sick of people making remarks like this about me asking my "heros". I am a fan first, a gambler second.

And Lyon, go look at the threads around you before you say I bought the hype. I know what the fuk i'm talking about. I'm pretty sure only 3 people on the whole board have come out tand said the Heat will win it all next year and 2 of those people include me and Sweet Jones. Go look how everyone is saying "the heat will be a bust" then report back here my man.

Oh, you showed me. You and Sweet Jones!! That's my point. SJ is a Miami Heat Fan and you are a Wade worshipper. That is true you are a fan first Too bad!


First off I never said this team is a bust or is gonna be a bust. I simply said I will wait for them to win the championship before I crown them.

You funny saying this team would shit on the 72-10 Bulls.

I also think you crazy making those threads about this team winning more games than the 72-10 Bulls? Those are some bold statements.


As for Kobe saving his energy? Did you not see Durant clown on his ass late in game 3 at home? He switched on him late in the game and Kobe looked confused and intimidated. Did you see that?

I guess Kobe was saving his energy in game 7 of the NBA Finals against Boston when he shot 6-24 from the field. He was resting his knees in that meaningless game I suppose.

Like you said you are a fan first and your fandom has got you clouded.

You talk a big game about how you know more than anybody and you say it so often and in a tone I think you believe it


Just to show I ain't mad at you I got you a link below were you should go post. Go hang out at the fan forums. Last I checked this is a gamblers forum.


http://heat.infopop.cc/eve MIAMI HEAT FORUM!!

[lyon804]

Oh, the other person that said the Heat will win it all is the clown Cappinpicks that has made a complete fool of himself in this sub-forum and has spilled his shit over in the baseball sub-forum as well. You 3 might be right. Las Vegas agrees with all 3 of you and has installed the Miami Heat as the favorites to win the 2010/2011 NBA Championship.

Me, I am a little old fashioned. I will wait for it to happen first.

Hope you like the link to the FAN forum I sent you.

[Shelton]

yes he has got to win 5 in a row i think

[zogdog]

The Heat are going to be ridiculously good. I never thought they could come up with the supporting cast that they have... their two deep lineup is pretty insane. And while they don't have a good center, they are all serviceable and each can play a different style. Z is good offensively still, especially when you have Wade and Bron driving to the hole. Anthony is a pretty good shot blocker and can run the floor well. Magloire is still decent defensively. Juwan Howard was pretty good at center last year for the Blazers.

The main thing is they have enough guys there that can defend Howard and Bynum well enough as well as having 24 fouls to waste on Howard.

And again their two deep lineup:
Chalmers/Arroyo (both good outside shooters)
Wade/Miller (Miller can just straight bomb three's)
LeBron/Jones (Jones is a pretty good three point shooter as well)
Bosh/Haslem
Center by committee

I mean the fact that not only did they get good players but also got players that fit in with Wade and LeBron is pretty amazing. Every single player listed, as well as Z at center, can shoot very well, and all of them at the 1-3 can shoot threes well. Both Bosh and Haslem can hit very consistently from 15-18 as well as Z.

If nothing is working LeBron and Wade will just drive to the line a few times in a row and get fouls on the other team and then go to the line in the bonus the rest of the quarter.

[ReiNNNN]

er well.. he made his move to miami to be like the biggest thing in the world and with 3 star players deciding to cut their salary down for the sake of the team, it wud be a fkin bitch if they dont win or reach the finals aye

[Goat Milk]

Oh, you showed me. You and Sweet Jones!! That's my point. SJ is a Miami Heat Fan and you are a Wade worshipper. That is true you are a fan first Too bad!


First off I never said this team is a bust or is gonna be a bust. I simply said I will wait for them to win the championship before I crown them.

You funny saying this team would shit on the 72-10 Bulls.

I also think you crazy making those threads about this team winning more games than the 72-10 Bulls? Those are some bold statements.


As for Kobe saving his energy? Did you not see Durant clown on his ass late in game 3 at home? He switched on him late in the game and Kobe looked confused and intimidated. Did you see that?

I guess Kobe was saving his energy in game 7 of the NBA Finals against Boston when he shot 6-24 from the field. He was resting his knees in that meaningless game I suppose.

Like you said you are a fan first and your fandom has got you clouded.

You talk a big game about how you know more than anybody and you say it so often and in a tone I think you believe it


Just to show I ain't mad at you I got you a link below were you should go post. Go hang out at the fan forums. Last I checked this is a gamblers forum.


http://heat.infopop.cc/eve MIAMI HEAT FORUM!!

Lyon I have been gambling NBA as long as you I believe. And Longer than Shoebox or Paco or any of these guys here for sure. This isn't some fanhood shit I preach. I am unbiased. I called LA in 7 this year. I called LA the previous year. And I called the Pistons upsetting the Lakers in 04 even though Kobe is one of my favorite players of all time.

You have to understand that knowing these things, these moves and tendencies of players is what makes me a good nba gambler.

Do you see the writeups I have on this site on the fan forums? You trying to question my nba knowledge you must be some kinda legend to be doing that.

[Goat Milk]

Me, I am a little old fashioned. I will wait for it to happen first.

The NBA isn't about sticking to roots. Its about adapting as the game does and recognizing champions when you see them. These two guys (Lebron and Wade) will go down as 2 of the top 15 ever to play the game. And you will be laughing about this with me in 5 years if we're still here. I've have witnessed some of the best players ever to play the game.

I have been watching NBA for nearly 25 years Lyon, you best take that kinda talk elsewhere with Shoebox through PM.

[shoebox]

Lyon I have been gambling NBA as long as you I believe. And Longer than Shoebox or Paco or any of these guys here for sure. This isn't some fanhood shit I preach. I am unbiased. I called LA in 7 this year. I called LA the previous year. And I called the Pistons upsetting the Lakers in 04 even though Kobe is one of my favorite players of all time.

You have to understand that knowing these things, these moves and tendencies of players is what makes me a good nba gambler.

Do you see the writeups I have on this site on the fan forums? You trying to question my nba knowledge you must be some kinda legend to be doing that.

How do we know your a good gambler? Last time I checked you posted for a month for $25 bucks a game. If you think la won that game fair and square your blind. Ask any laker fan if the zebras didnt help them out in the 4th, so your prediction was based on pure luck, sharps were on the Celtics and your square ass got lucky.

Questioning your NBA knowledge man how old are you, 23? I guess you were swimming around betting in your daddys nut sack, cause theres no way you been betting as long as I have.

[shoebox]

The NBA isn't about sticking to roots. Its about adapting as the game does and recognizing champions when you see them. These two guys (Lebron and Wade) will go down as 2 of the top 15 ever to play the game. And you will be laughing about this with me in 5 years if we're still here. I've have witnessed some of the best players ever to play the game.

I have been watching NBA for nearly 25 years Lyon, you best take that kinda talk elsewhere with Shoebox through PM.

Last time I checked Lebron was ringless, but taking his "talents", and "injuries" to the heat

[tealish]

No need to watch the games, fellas. The Heat have already won, watch!

[lakerboy]

Personally i think its a failure for the Heat unless they win it all. SJ i noticed how you tried to put LA as the team to beat but it looks like oddsmakers disagree. LA has been to 3 straight finals and as far as i can remember the last team to make it to 4 straight finals was the 1984-87 celtics so making it again for LA would be a pretty big feat in and of itself. The Lakers have an aging superstar while the Heat have 2 of the top talents of this era on the same team. Sure LA has some good pieces but i think Miami really has no excuse but to win it all this year.

[shoebox]

No need to watch the games, fellas. The Heat have already won, watch!

I wonder what "injury" that vagina is gonna have in the playoffs, flash is gonna tear his rotator cuff too!

I will for this

[thunderingherd23]

I think that D Wade will probably get hurt....why couldn't Bosh just accept the sign and trade to Cleveland

[crazymilkman]

I think first season is best chance to win the title together top3

[jennahazeplays]

no not mandatory

[jennahazeplays]

or even expected

[jennahazeplays]

must win within 2_3 yrs tho

[Goat Milk]

Ask any laker fan if the zebras didnt help them out in the 4th, so your prediction was based on pure luck, sharps were on the Celtics and your square ass got lucky.

Questioning your NBA knowledge man how old are you, 23? I guess you were swimming around betting in your daddys nut sack, cause theres no way you been betting as long as I have.

You don't win games when yo uget manhandled on the offensive glass. Period. Especially in the playoffs. The Celtics were tired by the 4th. They had no lift in their legs.

I told you all at the beginning of the series that Sharps would be all over Boston game 1 and game 7 and for the series and I was right. I fukin warned you Shoebox and don't say I didn't


1. Pretty sure I have been betting NBA longer than you. 2. My father died about 10 years ago. 3. My family didn't have a cent to our name for years, you don't even know who the fukk I am shoebox. carry on.

[shoebox]

You don't win games when yo uget manhandled on the offensive glass. Period. Especially in the playoffs. The Celtics were tired by the 4th. They had no lift in their legs.

I told you all at the beginning of the series that Sharps would be all over Boston game 1 and game 7 and for the series and I was right. I fukin warned you Shoebox and don't say I didn't

Pretty sure I have been betting NBA longer than you. My father died about 10 years ago. My family didn't have a cent to our name you don't even know who the fukk I am shoebox. carry on.

just stop son you really need to post at a fan forum. Refs gave em the game in the 4th period! One day you will understand little man

[Goat Milk]

So shoebox my prediction for Lakers in 7 pure luck? My predictions for Boston over Orlando pure luck? My prediction Suns winning both at home pure luck? You base your picks off models..... that shows me you don't know about players and their tendencies. You haven't watched this game for very long and you even admitted it yourself "NBA is just to pass time til MLB and Pigskin" is what you said.

Take that shit through PM with Lyon Please.

[Goat Milk]

just stop son you really need to post at a fan forum. Refs gave em the game in the 4th period! One day you will understand little man

In the 4th Period? You are a fukking tool.

[shoebox]

So shoebox my prediction for Lakers in 7 pure luck? My predictions for Boston over Orlando pure luck? My prediction Suns winning both at home pure luck? You base your picks off models..... that shows me you don't know about players and their tendencies. You haven't watched this game for very long and you even admitted it yourself "NBA is just to pass time til MLB and Pigskin" is what you said.

Take that shit through PM with Lyon Please.

NBA is a moneymaker but its so boring with out action thats what I ment. Nobody watches that shit cause their all a bunch of pre madonas. You post for a month and think your god Make more than a months wager documented and you might be on my level, keep trying though son, one day you will get there. I believe in you son, if you try really hard you might evolve into a capper