Game 7 bitch thread... refs suck / lakers won the game on the free throw line

HoulihansTX · 06-17-10, 11:22 PM

Boston couldnt score. that was the real problem

lakerboy · 06-17-10, 11:25 PM

greek you are better than this. i cant understand how you took boston ml in this game, because that is the reason you made this thread.

brooks85 · 06-17-10, 11:26 PM

very solid post, not surprised a laker fan disagrees with the facts

Donkwin47 · 06-17-10, 11:35 PM

Lakers actually almost LOST the game at the free throw line..

THEGREAT30 · 06-17-10, 11:41 PM

Kobe has 5 rings

lakerboy · 06-17-10, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

very solid post, not surprised a laker fan disagrees with the facts

be careful when you wakeup . Carson Palmer has his balls in your mouth.

goldengreek · 06-17-10, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by houlihanstx

boston couldnt score. That was the real problem

yes....but neither could the lakers...they scored 20 of 30 4th q points on the line

boston wasnt given a chance to score on the line

so u have 2 teams that couldnt score...but one has a chance to get all their points on the line

goldengreek · 06-17-10, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

greek you are better than this. i cant understand how you took boston ml in this game, because that is the reason you made this thread.

Common LB.

CONGRATS BY THE WAY

...SERIOUSLY

IT HAS NOTHING 2 DO WITH MY ML BET

I MADE OUT BIG TONIGHT AND KILLED IT IN THE FINALS

I CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT

IF THE SITUATION WAS REVERSE I WOULD SAY THE SAME

THEY LET THEM BANG AND KILL THEM SELVES FOR 3 QUARTERS AND THEN STARTED BLOWING THE WHISTLE

6 STRAIGHT LAKER OFFENSIVE POSESSIONS BOSTON WAS CALLED FOR A FOUL AND GOT INTO THE PENELTY

THATS ROUGH MAN

THEY SCORED ALL BUT 11 OF THEIR POINTS FROM THE LINE

THATS NOT BASKETBALL

capper123 · 06-17-10, 11:54 PM

lakers all the way baby even though i lost my last bet i won some big dough thanks lakers for that series win!!! artest is clutch!!!

soxwin · 06-17-10, 11:58 PM

lakers took the ball to the rim and got fouls. Celtics settled for jumpers no fouls. More aggressive team won the game. same as every other game in this series. Refs didn't steal anything from anyone.

If the Celtics boxed out on the rebound at all in the series, it would have been a different result. Lakers dominated the glass and as a result won the series.

congrats to the laker fans.

brooks85 · 06-18-10, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

be careful when you wakeup . Carson Palmer has his balls in your mouth.

that makes sense?

get lebrons balls out of your mouth so you can think, still sucking on them from cavs/boston series, how that work out for ya?

jsmithj88 · 06-18-10, 12:06 AM

yea, the big difference was the lakers drove to the hoop and boston took jumpers

Snowball · 06-18-10, 12:09 AM

greek i am with you on this there were many instances even before the 4th when the Celtics lead was cut down by calls. Whatever it is the bottom line for me is that I do not enjoy sporting events where championships are decided by which team gets the calls.
funny thing is this is very rarely a complaint of mine in the NCAA
but in the NBA its frequently an issue
so in the future I'll stick to where the purer sport is.

goldengreek · 06-18-10, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by Snowball

greek i am with you on this there were many instances even before the 4th when the Celtics lead was cut down by calls. Whatever it is the bottom line for me is that I do not enjoy sporting events where championships are decided by which team gets the calls.
funny thing is this is very rarely a complaint of mine in the NCAA
but in the NBA its frequently an issue
so in the future I'll stick to where the purer sport is.

Hey.. Gambling wise I cant complain

I went 12-1-1 in the finals

As a fan I dont want to see the inconsistancy . Love the way the refs called the game for 3 quarters..then they handed the game to the lakeshow

Law-Byrnes · 06-18-10, 12:29 AM

Boston had no sense of urgency down the stretch.

UntilTheNDofTimE · 06-18-10, 12:37 AM

Boston played terrible with no ball movement in the 4th

brandon m · 06-18-10, 12:45 AM

They were letting them play, but they weren't calling blatant fouls all game. I mean the calls went both ways, but fortune favors the bold, and the Lakers were pounding it inside all game, you get inside you got a better chance of the foul call. Yes there was a free throw discrepancy but that happens, and I saw some very questionable shit go Boston's way tonight, especially early. Like the jump ball call right before Gasol dunked on the entire celtic squad? WTF was that?

lolbear · 06-18-10, 12:45 AM

4 out of 5 boston starters are clearly on a decline starting a year or two ago in their 30's, and these 4 guys played on average more than 40 minutes each tonight

so i wouldn't say it is a lack of urgency. the lakers are simply better individually offensively, and athletically. boston's heart and determination got them through 3 quarters (along with bad FT shooting by lakers), but it was obvious they just ran out of gas. i mean just look at ray allen's shots. chasing kobe around 3 times in 5 days as a 30 something year old who already isn't as athletic as his opponent AND relies on running around on offense. the c's did all they could

nothing to be ashamed of, celtics leave as a winner tonight

cleaveland · 06-18-10, 01:07 AM

Godfather Stern: " Lakers to win."

If the Lakers lost this game 7:

1. No three peat chance for the Lakers.

2. Most likely no Phil Jackson for the Lakers next season.

3. No more Kobe-Jordan comparisons/hype for a long time.

4. No Phil Jackson for the Lakers throws the team into disarray, too many unknowns.

5. The Laker's current dynasty comes to an end and that means lots of lost hype/publicity going forward.

As Donahgy keeps saying, the league's in the red and it needs all the help it can get. Did anyone catch Kareem's face after the game, he looked embarrassed to be celebrating... welcome to the current NBA, it's just business, nothing personal.

kobefanatic · 06-18-10, 01:09 AM

ThaTopMoron · 06-18-10, 03:10 AM

rewatching the 4th quarter and so far in the first 3 minutes: a foul was missed on Artest as he was on a breakaway layup attempt, then right after that Ray Allen charged right into Bryant and a blocking foul was called when it should have been an offensive foul. So far, the C's have missed all shots & not attacked the hoop at all. They come back at 9 minutes and this is when Ray messed up again and Kobe got him to foul his hands on a 3 point attempt as Ray was too close and Kobe just raised his arms into the air and Ray didn't pull them away in time, resulting in 3 FT by Kobe and only a 1 pt deficit now 58-59. Tied again at 61 and then the C's final lead was 64-61 and then they gave up a 3 to Fisher and then they lost the lead for good with 6 minutes to go.

Lakers str8 stole this game str8 from the C's in the first 1/3 of the 4th Q by getting back to a tie game and then possession by possession building the lead up to 4, 6 points and continuing to attack after they got into the penalty.

Sharkl11 · 06-18-10, 04:02 AM

see u guys next season, here we go world cup / baseball/ football

cleaveland · 06-18-10, 04:14 AM

Originally posted by ThaTopMoron

rewatching the 4th quarter and so far in the first 3 minutes: a foul was missed on Artest as he was on a breakaway layup attempt, then right after that Ray Allen charged right into Bryant and a blocking foul was called when it should have been an offensive foul. So far, the C's have missed all shots & not attacked the hoop at all. They come back at 9 minutes and this is when Ray messed up again and Kobe got him to foul his hands on a 3 point attempt as Ray was too close and Kobe just raised his arms into the air and Ray didn't pull them away in time, resulting in 3 FT by Kobe and only a 1 pt deficit now 58-59. Tied again at 61 and then the C's final lead was 64-61 and then they gave up a 3 to Fisher and then they lost the lead for good with 6 minutes to go.

Lakers str8 stole this game str8 from the C's in the first 1/3 of the 4th Q by getting back to a tie game and then possession by possession building the lead up to 4, 6 points and continuing to attack after they got into the penalty.

20 free throws in the last 8:45, 20 free throws in the last 8:45!

Preston09 · 06-18-10, 04:20 AM

Thank God it's over!

thebestthereis · 06-18-10, 05:11 AM

It was Flopasauras Pau Cameltoe to the rescue

krazey47409 · 06-18-10, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by ThaTopMoron

rewatching the 4th quarter and so far in the first 3 minutes: a foul was missed on Artest as he was on a breakaway layup attempt, then right after that Ray Allen charged right into Bryant and a blocking foul was called when it should have been an offensive foul. So far, the C's have missed all shots & not attacked the hoop at all. They come back at 9 minutes and this is when Ray messed up again and Kobe got him to foul his hands on a 3 point attempt as Ray was too close and Kobe just raised his arms into the air and Ray didn't pull them away in time, resulting in 3 FT by Kobe and only a 1 pt deficit now 58-59. Tied again at 61 and then the C's final lead was 64-61 and then they gave up a 3 to Fisher and then they lost the lead for good with 6 minutes to go.

Lakers str8 stole this game str8 from the C's in the first 1/3 of the 4th Q by getting back to a tie game and then possession by possession building the lead up to 4, 6 points and continuing to attack after they got into the penalty.

If you knew anything about basketball you would know that was not a charge by ray allen kobe moves right in front of him and did not have his feet set no way that was a charge

brandon m · 06-18-10, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by krazey47409

If you knew anything about basketball you would know that was not a charge by ray allen kobe moves right in front of him and did not have his feet set no way that was a charge

Ray lowered his shoulder, thats a charge.

goldengreek · 06-18-10, 08:10 AM

ok, those of you talking about Boston settling for jump shots did not watch the game... Boston was just as aggressive, if not more... the Lakers inside shots came off second chance points, but so many of those were over-the-back fouls that didn't get called... especially in the 4th quarter... Boston was attacking the rim just as much... the refs just didn't call it the same when they did...

that rationale is just so weak...

20 out of 30 points at the FT line in the 4th quarter... think about it: the Lakers didn't score more than 20 points in any of the previous 3 quarters... and then they score 20 from the FT line?

goldengreek · 06-18-10, 08:11 AM

most people will look at box scores and try to rationalize their way out of this... but here is one thing you cannot explain away... and everyone MUST agree on this point:

the first 3 quarters were called one way... the 4th quarter was called a completely different way... there is no reason an NBA game (ESPECIALLY game 7 of the NBA finals) should ever reveal that sort of pattern...

add to the fact that Joey Crawford officiated 3 games in this series, and the Lakers won all 3 of them (AT THE FREE THROW LINE)

Kobe played like rats ass tonight... if LA loses, people are talking about Kobe's massive choke job in game 7... instead he is given the MVP???

brandon m · 06-18-10, 08:16 AM

Boston was fouling people, I mean your gonna sit there and say Ray Allen didn't foul Kobe on that 3? You saying that Sheed didn't foul Kobe with 25 seconds to go? If you don't think those were fouls you need your head examined. So thats 5 of the 20 free throws right there. I think Gasol might have got away with a flop near the end, but thats what happens when your right under the basket with 3 celtics swiping, there is contact and the refs have to call something.

goldengreek · 06-18-10, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by brandon m

Boston was fouling people, I mean your gonna sit there and say Ray Allen didn't foul Kobe on that 3? You saying that Sheed didn't foul Kobe with 25 seconds to go? If you don't think those were fouls you need your head examined. So thats 5 of the 20 free throws right there. I think Gasol might have got away with a flop near the end, but thats what happens when your right under the basket with 3 celtics swiping, there is contact and the refs have to call something.

READ MY FIRST POST.... I DIDNT SAY THERE WERE FANTOM FOULS OR BAD CALLS

THE REFS CHANGED THE WAY THEY WERE CALLING THE GAME

BOSTON WAS CALLED FOR A FOUL ON 6 STRAIGHT POSSESIONS

TAKE YOUR LAKER HAT OFF FOR A WHILE AND THINK ABOUT THE FOLLOWING:

Think about this now:

Lakers score 14 points in the first q , 20 in the 2nd q, 19 in the 3rd q ( thats total points) ,

and ......20 points from the free throw line alone in the 4th !!!

HoulihansTX · 06-18-10, 10:07 AM

All of that may be true, but Boston still pissed away their lead, and stopped scoring.

And Ray Allen needs to retire.

Muddy · 06-18-10, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by lolbear

4 out of 5 boston starters are clearly on a decline starting a year or two ago in their 30's, and these 4 guys played on average more than 40 minutes each tonight

so i wouldn't say it is a lack of urgency. the lakers are simply better individually offensively, and athletically. boston's heart and determination got them through 3 quarters (along with bad FT shooting by lakers), but it was obvious they just ran out of gas. i mean just look at ray allen's shots. chasing kobe around 3 times in 5 days as a 30 something year old who already isn't as athletic as his opponent AND relies on running around on offense. the c's did all they could

nothing to be ashamed of, celtics leave as a winner tonight

Nope, there's plenty to be ashamed of, and there definitely was only one winner. The game will haunt the C's until they can redeem themselves. Each one of them will think, man, if I only did this or that... not, f my legs they're old.

goldengreek · 06-18-10, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by houlihanstx

all of that may be true, but boston still pissed away their lead, and stopped scoring.

And ray allen needs to retire.

both teams could not score

lakers scored from the foul line in the 4th q

only diffrence

field goals made in the 4th

boston - 7

lakers - 6