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  • PAULYPOKER
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    • 12-06-08
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    #1
    A lesson in the Teamwork team Vs the Superstar oriented team
    Let the Countdown begin for the most important game of the series with Boston and Los Angeles ,the winner of tonight's game will most likely be taking the title home to add to their collection but the real question is> will it be #16? or #18?

    Will the face off record be>

    10 and 2?
    or
    3 and 9?

    Will the team that has no I in it prevail?
    or
    Will the "team" that has an I in it otherwise known as the one man showboat prevail?

    Teamwork as all equals to one another is proven through out all of sports history as the number 1 ingredient for success,meaning super stars or showboats are the Achilles heel for TEAM in its definition..........

    I am now going to give you 2 perfect examples off the top of my head without having to research>

    Pittsburgh Steelers: They are the most successful Superbowl champions in the history of the NFL,Why? one word TEAM the Steelers never had a one man show/Superstar in any of their 6 Superbowl victories there is no franchise in the business that follows this rule better than the Rooney's anytime they see a Superstar developing on their team they nip it in the bud and get rid of them before they have a chance to grow into vanity or self righteousness,I will give you just 3 recent names but there is a great deal more then this>

    Plaxico Burress he started his I'm better than everyone else attitude in the 2004 season,and when the season was over he was booted off the team to the NY Giants.........

    Joey Porter he started his I'm better than everyone else attitude in the 2004 season however he was still under contract until 2006 and the second his contract was up he was booted to the Miami Dolphins........

    Santonio Holmes he didn't get a chance to start his I'm better than everyone else attitude because the Rooney's booted him to the Miami Dolphins before the inevitable could happen...

    How do I know it was inevitable??Easy all three of these Superstars share an important characteristic for spotting this behavior out and that is they all have or had run ins with the law on one or more occasions..............

    New England Patriots
    under coach Bill Belichick:

    I'm not going to go in great detail with this scenario but it is the same priority for success as the Pittsburgh Steelers organization which is no Superstars except for they only sign so called Superstars when they are at the maturity level of understanding team concept,I'll drop just a few names so you can get a better under standing of this>Randy Moss,Junior Seau,Torry Holt,ETC..

    Bottom line>
    Champions are built on one important focus as the foundation or blueprint and this is TEAMWORK, this is the only ingredient by itself that can make all sports franchises a consistent Champion.......This is the only reason Boston has a stranglehold on the Lakers when it comes to NBA title face-offs,They met in the Title series 11 times since 1959 and Boston has won an eye popping 9 of them to a Lakers 2....

    In closing> This still stands presently in 2010 with this series which Boston is the TEAM while the Lakers are the Superstar/one man show/Kobe Bryant

    Now what side do you want to be on>

    The Team oriented franchise.....
    or
    The Superstar oriented franchise....

    I hope I helped you all out and good luck no matter which side you choose...........
  • soxwin
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    • 01-05-10
    • 1885

    #2
    So do you like, the Celtics, the Lakers, the Steelers or the Patriots to win tonights game?

    good luck hope you win some green.
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    • PAULYPOKER
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      • 12-06-08
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      #3
      Originally posted by soxwin
      So do you like, the Celtics, the Lakers, the Steelers or the Patriots to win tonights game?
      You a funny guy..........
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      • PAULYPOKER
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        • 12-06-08
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        #4
        I see you all don't want to learn you just want the three word lock posts,which is expected when the majority is addicted to the quick fix right here right now just give me a winner...........
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        • PAULYPOKER
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          • 12-06-08
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          #5
          You have to be foolish to back a one man show instead of a TEAM..............
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          • Goat Milk
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            • 03-24-10
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            #6
            Congrats PP, Snowball, Shoebox, Ralphie. You guys liked Bos the whole way.

            I still made money but I am sad for Kobe
            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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            • chargers4222
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              • 01-16-10
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              #7
              ok but to be fair the steelers and patriots had literally nothing to do with this
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              • shari91
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                • 02-23-10
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                #8
                Didn't see this until now but thanks for the great write up Pauly and congrats on the winner! You should do these more often
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                • Jedi
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                  • 02-20-10
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                  #9
                  excellent points by PP.... Kobie takes ALL the credit... and when he plays well, and when somebody else doesn't.... he NEVER fails to admonish them publicly... there IS a way to instruct verbally.. but he emphatically reprimands to teammate, so that it is clear...

                  the bsic message being... "IF we lose, it is because of HIM"... no one ever saw Jordan do that

                  kOOBie is a loser
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                  • Goat Milk
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                    • 03-24-10
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                    #10
                    JEDI you moron you said before Kobe plays second fiddle to bynum and Gasol? Where were bynum and gasol today? Kobe does whatever he wants against whoever he wants and today was a perfect example of that.

                    If you do not think Kobe is the best player in the world you are truly helpless
                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                    • Jedi
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                      • 02-20-10
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                      #11
                      Goat, you ass-wipe... shut up and get my SBR points ready
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                      • Jedi
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                        • 02-20-10
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                        #12
                        Celtics just decided to let koobie get his points and shut everybody else down... it is exactly like i said... when Gasol and Bynum don't play well, THEY LOSE.... i never said koobie can't score points

                        koobie is the FLASHIEST player in the world, NOT the BEST
                        the FACT THAT KOBIE SCORED that many pts, and the LAKERS STILL LOST proves my point exactly...

                        "it doesn't MATTER what KOBIE does.. let him get his 35,
                        IF WE CAN GET GASOL and BYNUM OFF THEIR GAMES, we'll win"
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                        • bigsmitty
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                          • 04-12-10
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                          #13
                          Agreed with Goat. Sweet writeup Pauly. LAL next game and BOS at home. Cheers
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                          • PAULYPOKER
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                            • 12-06-08
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Goat Milk
                            JEDI you moron you said before Kobe plays second fiddle to bynum and Gasol? Where were bynum and gasol today? Kobe does whatever he wants against whoever he wants and today was a perfect example of that. If you do not think Kobe is the best player in the world you are truly helpless
                            Kobe thinks he is the best player in the world and this is the Lakers problem but all super stars act this way with an exception for those who understand what team means which is few and far between..............
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                            • bigsmitty
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                              • 04-12-10
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                              #15
                              Nice post Jedi...
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                              • Jedi
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                                • 02-20-10
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                                #16
                                keep in mind folks, that koobie is such a BITCH, that both Shaq, AND PHIL JACKSON left town to GET AWAY from him... JACKSON only agreed to come back when the LAKERS offered to pay him $10 MILLION a season...

                                and this was a GREAT TEAM, they had won last 3 of 4 NBA TITLES, (way back when) and those two Hall-of-Famer megastars COULDN"T WAIT to get away from him..

                                if kooby WAS a TEAM PLAYAH, they woulda won 2-3, maybe 4 more ... but he was really upset that he didn't win the Playoff MVP Awards... "we ONLY won those Championships cuzza ME!!"

                                THAT IS A BITCH, Gentlemen, ..n'case ya didn't know
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                                • big0mar
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                                  • 01-09-09
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                  JEDI you moron you said before Kobe plays second fiddle to bynum and Gasol? Where were bynum and gasol today? Kobe does whatever he wants against whoever he wants and today was a perfect example of that.

                                  If you do not think Kobe is the best player in the world you are truly helpless

                                  Who gives a fukk about who the best player in the world is? People get too caught up in that and think that Kobe will somehow will the team to victory. Kobe buys into it himself and it just makes the team worse. You won't draw many fouls and you'll get Boston easy looks in transition if your offense becomes Kobe shooting jumpshots all night.
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                                  • PROfitableEnergy
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                                    • 05-31-10
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                    Congrats PP, Snowball, Shoebox, Ralphie. You guys liked Bos the whole way.

                                    I still made money but I am sad for Kobe
                                    and PE
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                                    • Jedi
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                                      • 02-20-10
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                                      #19
                                      **the 23 pts Streak began at the end of the second quarter
                                      KB did not have to do that, he does so because he cannot resist making the statement "I AM better"...
                                      thus negating the "we're better" that the lakers we're hoping for..

                                      when he does that, the other players stand down.
                                      It is a pecking order.. when the General is on a rant "Get outta my way"...
                                      so the Lieutenants, and Captains, shut up...

                                      it does not serve the team for everyone to stand down, so that one can rise..
                                      there is plenty of talent ALL over that team. MOST talent in league--

                                      if you examine the footage, you will see at a point early in the 3rd, he stops setting up anybody...
                                      he gets the ball... and magically hoists it in from wherever... the more he does it, the worse it gets..

                                      and to make matters worse, he calls everybody out in the press conference...
                                      ".. then they don't deserve to be Champions" (Kobe Bryant about his teammates)

                                      that is why they will lose..
                                      because his basic message to his team is, "I deserve to be a Champion" but you guys don't.
                                      THAT is why Shaq left, THAT is why Jackson before they lured him back with $1M/month

                                      he just divided the locker room, HIM vs. them.. taking the fun out of it..
                                      thus, Lakers probably will lose Game 6, as they did 2 yrs ago
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                                      • PAULYPOKER
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                                        • 12-06-08
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                                        #20
                                        Exactly Jedi No team can survive with one teammate taking command and order this is what the coach is for,what makes me laugh is this rule is as old as time itself,but only a small percentage believe in this fact and these are the only consistent champions.The Lakers do have the best talent but talent is only good when it is combined as one to form a TEAM..Kobe thinks just because he can beat half assed teams in the finals he can do it against Boston,but this is where he is dead wrong,like I said before The Boston Celtics franchise is the father of this principal in the NBA and until the rest of the NBA figures this out Boston will continue to be by far the most successful organization of the NBA because when you win 81% of the NBA championships you are in this can only be a system and this SYSTEM is equality of all members.........
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                                        • Jedi
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                                          • 02-20-10
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                                          #21
                                          Roger that... PP

                                          you CAN"T pull that on BOSTON... those are 3 Hall of Famers,,,

                                          which Orlando last year, no one has qualified for that yet...
                                          I think Howard eventually will...

                                          but Celtics are real vets, that have already won...

                                          I can't BELIEVE Jackson diod not tell Kobie "don't go ONE-MAN in thie series"

                                          GAME 5 was a HUGE game (they all were really) AND Kobie goes 'ONE MAN SHOW" on them?!?!!?

                                          why do that to yourself.. i thought he learned that years ago!!

                                          THEN... he tells reporters... "they (teammates) should MAN-UP and PLAY-BASKETBALL"

                                          what an ass.... he called them all wusses basically...

                                          there's no "K" in "T-E-A-M"

                                          JACKSON will retire... i am sure after that horrible KB presss conference, he will not want to come back for another year. He has worked with JORDAN, he knows the difference, and he knows that Kobie just doesn't have it in him to be a great leader... when things get hard.. he finger points and like to rat people
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                                          • jsmithj88
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                                            • 12-27-08
                                            • 3591

                                            #22
                                            why is any1 surprised by all this?
                                            kobe has always been this way.
                                            did we forget when he gave up and stopped shooting against the suns a couple years back?
                                            when things go sour kobe is always the first to point fingers.
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                                            • zogdog
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                                              • 01-29-10
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                                              #23
                                              The thing that makes Boston so good is that they have players that were superstars that have decided they just care about winning and are willing to sacrifice. IMO, if Kobe was willing to sacrifice as well, the Lakers would win. That team is just so damn talented.
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                                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                                • 12-06-08
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                                                #24
                                                I glad to see that there is guys in this forum who actually know what they are talking about.......... It is few as expected but it is good...
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