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  • Goat Milk
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    • 03-24-10
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    #36
    I don't think he'll ride shotty either- but it could happen.

    Yes- 3 peat with ease, it would be the best duo in the history of this league by miles. Honestly- By fukking 5 million miles no duo as long as this league will be around would ever come close to that. How about this: they would win 4 rings in 5-6 years. WITH EASE. Stop being naive.
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    • lakerboy
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      • 04-02-09
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      #37
      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
      So Kobe, Jordan, Wade, Magic, Kareem, Bird, or Isaiah Thomas didnt have egos.

      Having an ego, doesnt always add up to being a detriment to ones team. It could simply mean you have certain expectations of yourself, and teammates that allow you to will those around you to victory.

      That above statement sounds like I stole that from a Jordan biography. Well I did.. "Jordan Rules"

      See the guys you mentioned above all had coaches that matched there egos and more when they won there rings.

      Phil will go face to face with any player. Daly ran the show in Detroit. Riley was the boss in Miami and LA. KC Jones was in charge in Boston and ran the ship. The point is that all big athletes have egos for sure but im sorry Lebrons behaviour and subsequent interviews clearly indicate that its all about himself. As for your list which one of those guys left there city to win elsewhere? Kareem yes but he won in MIL already.
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      • HoulihansTX
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        • 02-12-09
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        #38
        Originally posted by lyon804
        I wonder why people get so upset about that? What a nice artice on deadspin. They really paint the man as a monster. Houli, I want to know this. Is all the racist in the world white people? There is nothing ever racist on the hands of a minority? Do you know of any black racist? Do they exist? Or is it just white people?
        Their are racist Black, Caucasian, Hispanic, Italian, Spanish, Asian, Australian, African, etc.

        Its all coincidental that the racist I have talked about have been white.

        Hell On Outside The Lines(ESPN Sunday morning, they were talking about an Historically Black College firing a couple of White head coaches, who claim that their firings were racial fueled. I dont doubt that its true. I'm sure it happens.

        I just talk about the issue at hand, and it was Don Sterling. Not anything else.

        You dont have to be White to be racist. I dont remember ever saying that racism was ever an exclusive characteristic of Caucasian people. If you find a post were I typed that, please bring it to the forefront.
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        • lakerboy
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          • 04-02-09
          • 94379

          #39
          Originally posted by Goat Milk
          I don't think he'll ride shotty either- but it could happen.

          Yes- 3 peat with ease, it would be the best duo in the history of this league by miles. Honestly- By fukking 5 million miles no duo as long as this league will be around would ever come close to that. How about this: they would win 4 rings in 5-6 years. WITH EASE. Stop being naive.

          LOL. They wont be on the same team. End of story.
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          • shoebox
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            • 11-26-08
            • 5710

            #40
            Originally posted by lakerboy
            3 peat with ease

            Yeah that happens alot.

            I dont care where he goes to be honest. His best chance to win a ring next year is in Cleveland and if he goes elsewhere he will need adjustment time. He isnt gonna ride shotgun to Wade in Miami. His most likely spot is Chicago and adding him makes them legit right away but not neccessarily champs.
            His ego couldn't take it especially if Wade started to put up better numbers superstars don't like to be in the shadow
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            • HoulihansTX
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              #41
              Originally posted by lyon804
              You do know Lebron only wants to play for black men, right?
              Who said this?
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              • lyon804
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-02-09
                • 6526

                #42
                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                Their are racist Black, Caucasian, Hispanic, Italian, Spanish, Asian, Australian, African, etc.

                Its all coincidental that the racist I have talked about have been white.

                Hell On Outside The Lines(ESPN Sunday morning, they were talking about an Historically Black College firing a couple of White head coaches, who claim that their firings were racial fueled. I dont doubt that its true. I'm sure it happens.

                I just talk about the issue at hand, and it was Don Sterling. Not anything else.

                You dont have to be White to be racist. I dont remember ever saying that racism was ever an exclusive characteristic of Caucasian people. If you find a post were I typed that, please bring it to the forefront.



                Fair enough. Glad you see things that way. Yes, maybe Don Sterling was tad racist but you got to realize alot of that thinking is from past results. Maybe one day you will own a couple of properties and see how things go for you in the real world. It might make you a racist as well. Just don't judge people based on what some liberal deadbeat writer has to say. The only thing we know for the truth is he settled claims on his racist injustices. All the other stuff is herese.


                Mabe Don Serling is not going to win humanitarian of the year.
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                • lyon804
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                  • 11-02-09
                  • 6526

                  #43
                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                  Who said this?


                  Well, I don't guess anybody said it but look at the Cavs coaches. Don't you know Lebron called the shots and had to sign off and endorse all personnell moves. It is obviuos the Lebron wanted a black coach.. Why else hire Mike Brown? Why would you build a team to win a championship and then give it to an unproved black man? That would be like me giving my business to an unproven black man and tell him to run it If I am going to spend the money to build a championship caliber team I sure as hell ain't going to give it over to some numbnuts coach that is best known as a video coordinator in the league-MIKE BROWN. The reason...thats what lebron wanted.
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                  • Laki
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                    • 04-23-10
                    • 394

                    #44
                    Originally posted by shoebox

                    His ego couldn't take it especially if Wade started to put up better numbers superstars don't like to be in the shadow
                    Wade and LeBron are pretty similar players, but Wade care less how many points will score in the game...
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                    • shoebox
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                      • 11-26-08
                      • 5710

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Laki
                      Wade and LeBron are pretty similar players, but Wade care less how many points will score in the game...

                      Of course that's what they will say not how they feel. Bulls would be his best choice IMO
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                      • Aurelius
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                        • 09-02-09
                        • 190

                        #46
                        good read
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                        • williams22
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                          • 09-19-08
                          • 6134

                          #47
                          Originally posted by lyon804
                          Well since we are on the subject of racism I want to add that will be difficult to achieve. There are only 3 or 4 Black coaches worth playing for in the NBA and Doc Rivers is one of those and will most likely leave the league after this year. You do know Lebron only wants to play for black men, right? That's why the Cavaliers wound up with the last 2 bozo's as coaches. They were lebron chosen. Cavaliers are a joke of a franchise. Go and spend 100 million to win and let the employess tell you how to run it by hiring a black coach/video coordinator.
                          Mike Brown was not selected by Lebron, he was selected by Dan Gilbert who called Brown one of the most impressive individuals he's ever interviewed.
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                          • williams22
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                            • 09-19-08
                            • 6134

                            #48
                            Wade and Lebron would play together and great along just fine. Lebron will be so damn happy that he is playing with someone capable of stealing the spotlight from him every once in a while that he won't even know what to do with himself.

                            Goat, here's my problem with going to Miami the more I think about it....After Lebron, Wade, and Riley as coach, what else do you have? Chicago seems to offer more filler pieces, especially if they can sign Lebron and then sign and trade Deng for Wade.
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                            • Goat Milk
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                              • 03-24-10
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                              #49
                              D Wade is not going anywhere Will22. I'm going to start a thread right now lol. Chicago will put Lebron more in the spotlight seeing he's playing in Jordan's kingdom. If he goes to Chicago...it will be because he wants to share Jordan's legacy- that will be the reason bro. If he goes to Chi- it's obvious he's not serious about winning a title because putting him on NY with Mac and Lee makes them instant contenders. And Mac and Bron are good friends
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                              • lyon804
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-02-09
                                • 6526

                                #50
                                Originally posted by williams22
                                Mike Brown was not selected by Lebron, he was selected by Dan Gilbert who called Brown one of the most impressive individuals he's ever interviewed.
                                WOW!! That sure as hell don't say much for Dan Gilbert. I thought wealthy people were smarter than that. Guess not. Also doesn't say much with Danny Ferry as the GM. Incompetence at it's finest.
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                                • williams22
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                                  • 09-19-08
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                  D Wade is not going anywhere Will22. I'm going to start a thread right now lol. Chicago will put Lebron more in the spotlight seeing he's playing in Jordan's kingdom. If he goes to Chicago...it will be because he wants to share Jordan's legacy- that will be the reason bro. If he goes to Chi- it's obvious he's not serious about winning a title because putting him on NY with Mac and Lee makes them instant contenders. And Mac and Bron are good friends
                                  Goat, let's try to have this conversation without complete oversimplifications. I think Chicago may actually give the quickest shot at a title. He's not winning a title with Lee and tMac, are you kidding me?

                                  Lebron is going to have plenty of spotlight wherever he goes, he's going to be picking based on the possible teammates and the coach.
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                                  • williams22
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                                    • 09-19-08
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by lyon804
                                    WOW!! That sure as hell don't say much for Dan Gilbert. I thought wealthy people were smarter than that. Guess not. Also doesn't say much with Danny Ferry as the GM. Incompetence at it's finest.
                                    He was impressive because when he sat down all he talked about was building a certain culture, which is the kinda thing CEOs love to hear. The problem with Mike Brown is that he's not a great in-game X and Os coach and he doesn't have the resume yet to be able to demand respect from players in tough times.
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                                    • lyon804
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-02-09
                                      • 6526

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by williams22
                                      He was impressive because when he sat down all he talked about was building a certain culture, which is the kinda thing CEOs love to hear. The problem with Mike Brown is that he's not a great in-game X and Os coach and he doesn't have the resume yet to be able to demand respect from players in tough times.


                                      Sounds like Mike Brown was well groomed by somebody that knew how to put one over on people of high authority.
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                                      • Goat Milk
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                                        • 03-24-10
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by williams22

                                        Goat, let's try to have this conversation without complete oversimplifications. I think Chicago may actually give the quickest shot at a title. He's not winning a title with Lee and tMac, are you kidding me?

                                        Lebron is going to have plenty of spotlight wherever he goes, he's going to be picking based on the possible teammates and the coach.
                                        David Lee is the most underrated player in this league. He abused garnett every game this year, abused Ben Wallace and several other prime time defenders. Tmac played great this year considering his minutes. At this point in his career, Tmac has become purely a playmaker/faciliator.

                                        Get real bro- the Bulls have no pieces to contend. Rose is not even a true PG. Rose and James can't play together, Rose creates his own shot whenever he wants to, he doesn't hit open shots and can't knock down 3s. Noah and Varajoe are teh same player. Hinrich is a similar player to Delante west. The Bulls and James would be a failure. Plus there would be way more pressure on Lebron if he went to Jordan's kingdom. Lebron doesn't need that pressure
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                                        • HoulihansTX
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                                          • 02-12-09
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by lyon804
                                          Why else hire Mike Brown?
                                          Gregg Pop endorsed Mike Brown.

                                          A white guy, who is now apparently stupid. Since he endorsed MIke Brown, and just recently lost to a team(Suns) coached by a black guy(Gentry).
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                                          • williams22
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                                            • 09-19-08
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                            David Lee is the most underrated player in this league. He abused garnett every game this year, abused Ben Wallace and several other prime time defenders. Tmac played great this year considering his minutes. At this point in his career, Tmac has become purely a playmaker/faciliator.

                                            Get real bro- the Bulls have no pieces to contend. Rose is not even a true PG. Rose and James can't play together, Rose creates his own shot whenever he wants to, he doesn't hit open shots and can't knock down 3s. Noah and Varajoe are teh same player. Hinrich is a similar player to Delante west. The Bulls and James would be a failure. Plus there would be way more pressure on Lebron if he went to Jordan's kingdom. Lebron doesn't need that pressure
                                            C'mon Goat, Tmac was awful. Awful to the point where he even suggested he may not be back next year if he can't get himself back up to an acceptable level. David Lee hasn't played a possession of defense in his life. When Lebron could potentially be playing with Bosh I hardly think the possibility of playing with Lee is anything to get him excited.
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                                            • HoulihansTX
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                                              #57
                                              How is David Lee underrated, when he made the All-Star team last year??

                                              David lee is properly rated. Great offense, while his defense leaves something to be desired. His defensive liabilty is really due to his size. I think he is really good.
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                                              • Goat Milk
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                How is David Lee underrated, when he made the All-Star team last year??

                                                David lee is properly rated. Great offense, while his defense leaves something to be desired. His defensive liabilty is really due to his size. I think he is really good.
                                                he made the all star team this year, because of a dropout. He wasn't originally selected. Lee isn't that bad defensively, he's decent, he's an undersized center. He should be playign PF
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                                                • lakerboy
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                                                  • 04-02-09
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                                                  #59
                                                  Fukk somebody sign this guy already.
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                                                  • lyon804
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                                                    • 11-02-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                    Gregg Pop endorsed Mike Brown.

                                                    A white guy, who is now apparently stupid. Since he endorsed MIke Brown, and just recently lost to a team(Suns) coached by a black guy(Gentry).


                                                    Oh, I see.. Let me ask you this. Have you ever had a job in your short existence? If you had, then you would know if you do a decent job as an assistant and don't give your boss any problems and show respect you will automatically be endorsed by them..Doesn't mean you are ready to be the man. There is a big difference working under the man and being the man even if you have all the X' and O's knowledge you need which in Brown's case was apparantly not true.


                                                    I just was trying to make the point of not hiring a neophyte when trying to win a championship. I don't care if Mike Brown was a black man, white man, or brown man I wouldn't have hired him because he had no experience as the man. Championships are generally not won by neophyte head coaches regardless of the talent on the team.
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