please read this thread for your own good

**Snowball** · 05-12-10, 04:36 PM

we're American. It's soccer here.

Declan Hill is the Canadian journalist at the centre of a 2008 controversy involving match-fixing in the 2006 World Cup and the German Bundesliga.[1] His 2008 book The Fix as well as an interview he did with German magazine Der Spiegel [2][3], suggest possible match-fixing at the highest levels of professional association football. Specializing in sports corruption, he has a Doctorate in Sociology from the University of Oxford for his work studying match-fixing in football, is a consultant to the Anti Corruption Training and Consulting Group (ACTC), was a reviewer on the Global Integrity Report: 2007, and has probed the impact of the Russian mafia on professional hockey.[4] He won the 2007 Canadian Association of Journalists Award for best investigative radio documentary[5] and is an Amnesty International Canada 2003 Media Award Winner[6]. In 2009 Hill won the Play the Game Award, as "the individual who best strengthened the basic ethical values of sport."[7] and the "The Fix" won the EPL Talk award as “Best New Football Book.”[8]

**mtneer1212** · 05-12-10, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by alon7777777

i am new here but i have been betting on sports for years there is something strange going on in almoust every game its not Stern its the bookies everithing is fixed not just in nba but in all proffesional sports its too much money involved i am talking about billions. recently i bought a book by Declan Hill called The Fix and now i understand we are all the fools that pay for it PLEASE CHECK THIS BOOK CAUSE ITS GETTING WORSE EVERY GAME i loved sports once but i cant watch games no more it makes me sick

You're off to a tough start kid, if this is your first post. You may want to take cover.

**alon7777777** · 05-12-10, 11:15 PM

No Tough starts for me Kid

**sharpcat** · 05-12-10, 11:20 PM

Try to bet on games from a gamblers perspective instead of a sports fanatics perspective

I have never met a single know it all sports guy be anywhere close successful handicapping sports.

**doctor_on_call** · 05-12-10, 11:20 PM

thanks for the ad. ill buy the book then.

**JuicedUp** · 05-12-10, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by mtneer1212

You're off to a tough start kid, if this is your first post. You may want to take cover.

**alon7777777** · 05-12-10, 11:33 PM

Its not only soccer or Hockey he talks about all sports in general

**alon7777777** · 05-12-10, 11:36 PM

its not that i cant hit a bet i just cant watch games no more its a theatre

**evicktd** · 05-13-10, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by alon7777777

i am new here but i have been betting on sports for years there is something strange going on in almoust every game its not Stern its the bookies everithing is fixed not just in nba but in all proffesional sports its too much money involved i am talking about billions. recently i bought a book by Declan Hill called The Fix and now i understand we are all the fools that pay for it PLEASE CHECK THIS BOOK CAUSE ITS GETTING WORSE EVERY GAME i loved sports once but i cant watch games no more it makes me sick

So did the Russian Mob get the snitch? That's what seems like would happen for that.

**tbonmusikman** · 05-13-10, 01:32 AM

If it's a theatre, I like entertainment. And if it's fixed one team's bound to win.

**stealthyburrito** · 05-13-10, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by alon7777777

its not that i cant hit a bet i just cant watch games no more its a theatre

i agree the NBA is a whole lotta show, stresses individuals too much and relegates team play to the backburner.

but every game fixed? don't think we've fallen that far yet.

**Durrrr** · 05-13-10, 02:19 AM

You have no idea what so ever, you remind me of one those nut cases who say they were abducted by alien forces and probed with a 10 inch rod.

**Mikail** · 05-13-10, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by alon7777777

i am new here but i have been betting on sports for years there is something strange going on in almoust every game its not Stern its the bookies everithing is fixed not just in nba but in all proffesional sports its too much money involved i am talking about billions. recently i bought a book by Declan Hill called The Fix and now i understand we are all the fools that pay for it PLEASE CHECK THIS BOOK CAUSE ITS GETTING WORSE EVERY GAME i loved sports once but i cant watch games no more it makes me sick

You are gonna catch a lot of sh&t for posting a statement like this here. I believe what you are saying. To what extent is it going on well I am not sure but it seems as if it has become more prevalent. Or perhaps it is just being noticed more. I am interested in reading this book you refer about "The fix"

**evicktd** · 05-13-10, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

You are gonna catch a lot of sh&t for posting a statement like this here. I believe what you are saying. To what extent is it going on well I am not sure but it seems as if it has become more prevalent. Or perhaps it is just being noticed more. I am interested in reading this book you refer about "The fix"

I, too got interested. Listen to this:

HOLD ON... am I allowed to link to CBSSports?

**WillC** · 05-13-10, 03:17 AM

"almoust every game"

not a chance

**mlb** · 05-13-10, 03:54 AM

you don't bet sports based on being a general fan .. you bet sports based on lines and where they are and most of the time vegas has a line for a reason .. rigged or not, you can always find hints ....

weird that you just come into this site jabbering about this with your first posts

**nulldah** · 05-13-10, 04:44 AM

you know what? if a person can go to the extend of writing a book saying about fix and claiming he/she knows a lot, it is piece of shit.

let me put it this way, if you gain so much knowledge of fix to the extend you can write a book to full describing it, do you REALLY want to do it? why not you just open a book since it will be profitable for you in long run? or if you know how the fix is fixed, will you use it for doubling your bankroll or will you write a book for people to know? dont say things like share the knowledge please, it's bullshit. once you're gambler, you basically want to win lot of money in short time, but share the knowledge for cheap price and let the secret out?

**Gopi-1** · 05-13-10, 04:56 AM

Try to find the right side of the fix, if there really is a fix, you have a 50-50 shot like the rest of us...

**cmle123** · 05-13-10, 05:07 AM

Originally posted by alon7777777

i am new here but i have been betting on sports for years there is something strange going on in almoust every game its not Stern its the bookies everithing is fixed not just in nba but in all proffesional sports its too much money involved i am talking about billions. recently i bought a book by Declan Hill called The Fix and now i understand we are all the fools that pay for it PLEASE CHECK THIS BOOK CAUSE ITS GETTING WORSE EVERY GAME i loved sports once but i cant watch games no more it makes me sick

Reseach before you say something stupid stuff. First understand why its legal for us to bet on sport or fight and why some banned this kind of gambling in some country

**Preston09** · 05-13-10, 06:14 AM

No worries as long as your on the right side.

**alon7777777** · 05-13-10, 09:58 AM

Sorry if i offended anyone by posting it but i just believe the book and i got respect for this forum guys here understand sports but its not sports anymore it became weird its not an ad just a good book i wanted to put here if somebody didnt know it exist

**alon7777777** · 05-13-10, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by nulldah

you know what? if a person can go to the extend of writing a book saying about fix and claiming he/she knows a lot, it is piece of shit.

let me put it this way, if you gain so much knowledge of fix to the extend you can write a book to full describing it, do you REALLY want to do it? why not you just open a book since it will be profitable for you in long run? or if you know how the fix is fixed, will you use it for doubling your bankroll or will you write a book for people to know? dont say things like share the knowledge please, it's bullshit. once you're gambler, you basically want to win lot of money in short time, but share the knowledge for cheap price and let the secret out?

Originally posted by WillC

"almoust every game"

not a chance

If you could fix one game wouldnt you fix more dont act like you dont know people and money i mean big billioner people that dont give a **** about you and me and only mean bisness how old are you

and its not a secret maybe just you dont know

**nulldah** · 05-13-10, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by alon7777777

If you could fix one game wouldnt you fix more dont act like you dont know people and money i mean big billioner people that dont give a **** about you and me and only mean bisness how old are you

and its not a secret maybe just you dont know

you missing my point. but "almost every game" you said? wow... r u saying almost all epl, serie a, la liga soccer matches are fixed? almost all grand slam tennis results are fixed? almost all NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB matches are fixed? and other unknown sports to me are also fixed? wow, just WOW

for a person that admit he's still new here, but directly promoting a book, i'm impressed.

**36mafia** · 05-13-10, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by nulldah

you know what? if a person can go to the extend of writing a book saying about fix and claiming he/she knows a lot, it is piece of shit.

let me put it this way, if you gain so much knowledge of fix to the extend you can write a book to full describing it, do you REALLY want to do it? why not you just open a book since it will be profitable for you in long run? or if you know how the fix is fixed, will you use it for doubling your bankroll or will you write a book for people to know? dont say things like share the knowledge please, it's bullshit. once you're gambler, you basically want to win lot of money in short time, but share the knowledge for cheap price and let the secret out?

author of the book the op is referring to is a journalist and not a gambler

**sweethook** · 05-13-10, 11:04 AM

you dam right the NBA is fixed , more so than any other pro. sport the NFL is 2nd

**alon7777777** · 05-13-10, 12:05 PM

i am not even talkin about moneyline but dont act like you dont know about point shaving and they fixing the spread in EVERY GAME you think they are fools its all for your fun and profit

**Nuggz** · 05-13-10, 12:21 PM

Well, every game is fixed. Let's all cashout, logout, and go home...

**alon7777777** · 05-13-10, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Nuggz

Well, every game is fixed. Let's all cashout, logout, and go home...

No just keep playing the game you gonna win eventually

**alon7777777** · 05-13-10, 12:31 PM

Good luck to you all guys i can see only a few real gamblers know what i am talkin about

**alon7777777** · 05-13-10, 12:33 PM

I think Statisticlly for every 1 guy that wins his bet 5 or more guys are losing so they always win

**xxxvince** · 05-13-10, 12:39 PM

bs

**alon7777777** · 05-13-10, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by xxxvince

bs

IIIIIIIIIIIIII dont think so

**alon7777777** · 05-13-10, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by nulldah

you missing my point. but "almost every game" you said? wow... r u saying almost all epl, serie a, la liga soccer matches are fixed? almost all grand slam tennis results are fixed? almost all NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB matches are fixed? and other unknown sports to me are also fixed? wow, just WOW for a person that admit he's still new here, but directly promoting a book, i'm impressed.

i advise you to not make big bets on snooker and tennis and fights everything that one man can make a differance didnt you saw John Higgins

**SEAHAWKHARRY** · 05-13-10, 01:24 PM

Listen im sure a ref or a player in his time have fixed a game its been proven with a nba ref but not all sporting events were fixed or are fixed.. a college game here and there maybe.... a nfl game.....no way soccer probably( soccers for girls anyways) boxing ya better believe it its as bad as wrestling... as far a baseball football and basketball i would guess 99% of the games are solid no fix.... no way the majority are fixed because of media/tecnology and people who cannot keep there mouths shut would prove otherwise..