The fix is on Dallas tonight..Roll with the corruption.

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  • 36mafia
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    • 11-08-09
    • 2389

    #36
    congrats dallas backers
    didnt play em tonight but i hope they take the series. it'd be a good comeback to watch
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    • gwiz
      SBR MVP
      • 02-09-10
      • 1790

      #37
      fun read snowball

      I like the way you think
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      • yisman
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-01-08
        • 75682

        #38
        I didn't watch much of the Dallas game, but I definitely agree regarding Suns/Blazers Game 5. I watched that, and it looked as fixed as any NBA game I've seen.

        Every borderline call went Phoenix's way until they had a big lead.
        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
        [/quote]

        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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        • pittmatt80
          SBR Sharp
          • 01-30-10
          • 358

          #39

          Great post.
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          • Gopi-1
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-27-10
            • 952

            #40
            Originally posted by Snowball
            We all know the NBA fixed last night's Suns game with a humongous free throw differential which was for the most part the margin of "victory".
            That can rarely occur and still be legit, but the fouls were not legit and the uncalled fouls discouraged the Blazers. Whoever made the big money bet in Vegas around noon moved the line, they were tipped.
            Stern was being interviewed from the stands watching one of the games a few days ago. He said something like, "coaches shouldn't complain about calls. they should feel lucky to be where they are. look at this beautiful arena, all the excitement.".. what was funny someone at ESPN said everyone should feel "lucky to be there" including the commisioner. Now that's the truth. The league is looking forward to the day that old crone retires, but he will probably do all that he can to die as commissioner.. so that he can continue to hand out to his network of beneficiaries. Fixing the NBA is fully legal. There are no laws against favoring one outcome over another through referee actions. We all know it happens. They are entertainment events solely owned by the NBA. Anyway.

            Now, tonight the big Texas Rivalry. You have the Undertaker (Spurs) trotting into the home ring of Mankind (Dallas) and their colorful owner, Mark Cuban (Classie Freddie Blassie). Mankind is down 3-1, so Undertaker "could" win the series tonight, but it is on Mankind's home turf and Mankind is due to employ commanding headlocks. Last game, he broke (Ginobili) Undertaker's nose, adding to the drama. Commisioner Stern (Vince McMahon) would like to see another sold-out "beautiful arena" back in San Antonio, and the only way to do that is put it through the channels and arrange refs that have no problems giving Mankind some favorable whistles. After all, referees are also "lucky to be there".

            Result: Mankind wins, Classie Freddie Blassie is happy, Mankind's minions feel sated and will bring the feet and wallets back for next season, and it's good for the economy.

            Tonight's Refs:
            Monty McCutchen. Last 10 games with Dallas, 9 wins, 1 loss.
            Pat Fraher. Last 10 games with Dallas, 8 wins, 2 losses.
            Greg Willard. Last 10 games with Dallas, 6 wins, 4 losses.
            Dallas's record with this combined officiating crew (the games go back to 2008)
            23 wins, 7 losses.
            Take a look at the 7 losses, blowouts where refs couldn't help enough.
            covers.com/pageLoader/pag...eferees_6.html

            Great write-up and an even greater result! How about a boxing analogy next time?
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            • cleaveland
              SBR MVP
              • 04-04-10
              • 1559

              #41
              Originally posted by Snowball
              Absolutely not. That's one of the reasons I went Portland. We hadn't seen any fixed games yet this playoff season. Last night's two were the first. Like you said it didn't matter with Charlotte they just weren't good enough to make it work, but the Suns were.
              Celtics are more hip to the referees fixing games than any other organization today. Rivers has complained, Wallace has complained many times, Tommy Heinsohn and even Danny Ainge. I don't know why no Celtics games in this series have been fixed.. but no, the Celtics just came out flat and after re-taking the lead, Wade was hot as a firecracker and C's missed 5 FT's in a row at the end plus Rondo's missed layup.
              You'll love this article:

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              Your theory is explained in detail. It was written years ago for a gambling site... everyone at SBR needs to read this article!
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #42
                Dallas could of won every game in this series, its not over yet.
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                • Snowball
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 11-15-09
                  • 30049

                  #43
                  Originally posted by cleaveland
                  You'll love this article:

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                  Your theory is explained in detail. It was written years ago for a gambling site... everyone at SBR needs to read this article!
                  Article saved to desktop. Thanks.

                  Now it's time to research the Denver game tonight for a possible fix.
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                  • lyon804
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-02-09
                    • 6526

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Snowball
                    Article saved to desktop. Thanks.

                    Now it's time to research the Denver game tonight for a possible fix.


                    Great work Snowball. I am very proud of your call. It gives me great pleasure to see you use those angles to your advantage. Worked like a charm
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                    • Snowball
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 11-15-09
                      • 30049

                      #45
                      thanks, lyons ! Seeing some angles in the Denver game.
                      Obviously Denver would be the fix, to move the series further and at home.
                      Salvatore is in, you know he's an asset. The historical edge however is actually on the Over.
                      This crew is a combined 42-24 Over when the line is over 205.
                      Moreover, only one, Ron Garretson, is 13-15 skewing that record.
                      Malloy is 15-6 Salvatore is 14-3..so 2/3 of the crew is 29-9 over 205.

                      looking into Atlanta also with Bavetta.
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                      • kobefanatic
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-19-10
                        • 9013

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Snowball
                        thanks, lyons ! Seeing some angles in the Denver game.
                        Obviously Denver would be the fix, to move the series further and at home.
                        Salvatore is in, you know he's an asset. The historical edge however is actually on the Over.
                        This crew is a combined 42-24 Over when the line is over 205.
                        looking into Atlanta also with Bavetta.
                        atlanta game seems to be going under
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                        • SRBI
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 8393

                          #47
                          Snowball - very well analyzed, congrats
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                          • WileOut
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-04-07
                            • 3844

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Snowball
                            i was only talking about sides..

                            do you think point total fixes are an end-in-themselves, or the indirect result of refs clamping down on the game to favor one team ? Atlanta was horrible that game, but that game may have been fixed too, especially being @ Milwaukee down 0-2.. it just didn't get close enough to matter. That sure was a suspicious blowout for Milwaukee. so now we have 3 confirmed fixes in the last week. They only stick their neck out when necessary.
                            In my opinion, refs fix games for the total much more than they do the sides. The totals are much easier to fix, in fact it is impossible to tell if the refs are fixing the game for the total. If all the guys reffing the game take the under and discuss it before hand, they will "let the players play". If they take the over, all the refs will "call the game closely" as the announcers will put it. This goes on I think much more than side fixing because you can win almost 100% of the time like this and because less scrutiny is put on the total.
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                            • WileOut
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-04-07
                              • 3844

                              #49
                              Originally posted by cleaveland
                              You'll love this article:

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                              Your theory is explained in detail. It was written years ago for a gambling site... everyone at SBR needs to read this article!
                              I stopped reading when I read in the first sentence or 2......."referees make peanuts". Not the case, NBA refs make over $200k per year. I know they fix the games anyway though.
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                              • JMUplayer
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-27-09
                                • 2765

                                #50
                                23-7 is only a 75% win margin.... they normally are in the high 60% anyway.
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                                • cleaveland
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-04-10
                                  • 1559

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by WileOut
                                  I stopped reading when I read in the first sentence or 2......."referees make peanuts". Not the case, NBA refs make over $200k per year. I know they fix the games anyway though.
                                  Nice research capability, the quote is over 30 years old and it was made by a guy who's a true expert:

                                  Now, I know what you might be saying, "Insane ramblings from another conspiracy theorist. Why don't those people get a life?" Who wrote these silly words: Jim Rome? www.nba-is-fixed.com? Yours truly? How about some bitter Kings' fan who hates the Lakers? No, the quote above is from Bill Russell and it was from his book Second Wind published in 1979.
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                                  • lyon804
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-02-09
                                    • 6526

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Snowball
                                    thanks, lyons ! Seeing some angles in the Denver game.
                                    Obviously Denver would be the fix, to move the series further and at home.
                                    Salvatore is in, you know he's an asset. The historical edge however is actually on the Over.
                                    This crew is a combined 42-24 Over when the line is over 205.
                                    Moreover, only one, Ron Garretson, is 13-15 skewing that record.
                                    Malloy is 15-6 Salvatore is 14-3..so 2/3 of the crew is 29-9 over 205.

                                    looking into Atlanta also with Bavetta.



                                    Most people are not open minded to what you are showing, but I have known for sometime the league has an "agenda". However, there is no true fix because the players are hard to corrupt because they are wealthy and would be risking too much, but the referee's on the other hand are making peanuts in reality and they know the hand that feeds them. Yes, some look at 200-300K like alot of money, but in reality it is just a good living now adays and they know it can be taken away at anytime if they cross orders. League officials do there best to cover it up and refs are by in large ignorant and incompetent to make it look more like bad officiating rather than fix.


                                    The Orl/CHR series was evidence of the league trying to help Charlotte. The refs really did all they could for Charlotte and they kept Howard off the floor for the most part, but the Bobcats were too dumb and incompetent to exploit this. In the end they were just not good enough even with help to beat Orlando.


                                    I agree with your statements and I have followed referees for sometime before covers.com became a popular outlet to help minimize work. There are certain referee's that like certain teams or dislike certain teams.

                                    One example.. Gary Zielinski is a NBA ref from the Denver area.. Everytime he calls a Nuggets game take them. They win in convicing style. You can learn the referee's and who they are as people and were they were born and were they live now by just doing a little google search. There are other examples, but you get the point.

                                    We must be careful here because our opinions are not well recieved by most here or anywere for that manner. Most, are in denial and when you say "fix" people flip out.

                                    Again, I really believe there is no true fix out there, but rather a league "agenda" A true fix needs players involvement and I believe for the most part the players are legit.. Why not? They have too much to risk. I mean who is going to influence a Mello,James,Bryant, or other good players. Those guys would be risking more than basketball if it ever got out. Those guys I mentioned are coroporations in themself...especially Lebron. Take what Lebron makes from the game and his endorsements.. It's shocking and no gambler is going to influence him, but the refs who are employed by the league do as they are told.


                                    There is a reason David $tern has been around as long as he has as the longest tenured commisioner in major sports.




                                    As far as the person that gave the link to the article.. Thank you! It was a very good read and reinforced thoughts I have had for sometime as I have been following the NBA since the mid 80's
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                                    • talnted
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-11-09
                                      • 1664

                                      #53
                                      Ive liked the mavs here all along, but the write up sure did give me a little more to sit on. thanks for the insight snowball
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                                      • bigdog3580
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-22-07
                                        • 3675

                                        #54
                                        Stern HATES the SUNS. No way was that game fixed. Stern has given San Antonio two titles by ripping off the SUNS.
                                        The NBA and Stern want SA and PHX again so he can job the Suns again.

                                        Snowball>Portland is just NOT THAT GOOD! Too many injuries. Lay blame where is is supposed to lie. With the heartless Blazers!
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                                        • Karayilan9
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-10-09
                                          • 3742

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by WileOut
                                          I stopped reading when I read in the first sentence or 2......."referees make peanuts". Not the case, NBA refs make over $200k per year. I know they fix the games anyway though.
                                          $200K isn't alot in contrast to what the players get, it is a comfortable salary but not big enough to stop the green eye. There is also another factor, if a Ref want's to move up he has to play the game, if higher up officials want a result and he delivers the result his favor will be remembered.
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                                          • whatsgood5
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 10-13-09
                                            • 15359

                                            #56
                                            Good call sir, great research
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                                            • beanbag
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-21-10
                                              • 2364

                                              #57
                                              very nice call!
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                                              • psedler
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 03-21-10
                                                • 123

                                                #58
                                                Thanks Snowball. Took Dallas last night for $500. Nice Hit for the night and much thanks for your post and service here.
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                                                • cleaveland
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-04-10
                                                  • 1559

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by lyon804
                                                  Most people are not open minded to what you are showing, but I have known for sometime the league has an "agenda". However, there is no true fix because the players are hard to corrupt because they are wealthy and would be risking too much, but the referee's on the other hand are making peanuts in reality and they know the hand that feeds them. Yes, some look at 200-300K like alot of money, but in reality it is just a good living now adays and they know it can be taken away at anytime if they cross orders. League officials do there best to cover it up and refs are by in large ignorant and incompetent to make it look more like bad officiating rather than fix.


                                                  The Orl/CHR series was evidence of the league trying to help Charlotte. The refs really did all they could for Charlotte and they kept Howard off the floor for the most part, but the Bobcats were too dumb and incompetent to exploit this. In the end they were just not good enough even with help to beat Orlando.


                                                  I agree with your statements and I have followed referees for sometime before covers.com became a popular outlet to help minimize work. There are certain referee's that like certain teams or dislike certain teams.

                                                  One example.. Gary Zielinski is a NBA ref from the Denver area.. Everytime he calls a Nuggets game take them. They win in convicing style. You can learn the referee's and who they are as people and were they were born and were they live now by just doing a little google search. There are other examples, but you get the point.

                                                  We must be careful here because our opinions are not well recieved by most here or anywere for that manner. Most, are in denial and when you say "fix" people flip out.

                                                  Again, I really believe there is no true fix out there, but rather a league "agenda" A true fix needs players involvement and I believe for the most part the players are legit.. Why not? They have too much to risk. I mean who is going to influence a Mello,James,Bryant, or other good players. Those guys would be risking more than basketball if it ever got out. Those guys I mentioned are coroporations in themself...especially Lebron. Take what Lebron makes from the game and his endorsements.. It's shocking and no gambler is going to influence him, but the refs who are employed by the league do as they are told.


                                                  There is a reason David $tern has been around as long as he has as the longest tenured commisioner in major sports.




                                                  As far as the person that gave the link to the article.. Thank you! It was a very good read and reinforced thoughts I have had for sometime as I have been following the NBA since the mid 80's
                                                  Thank you. Everybody at SBR should read that article. It's amazing it was written way back in 2003 but nothing's changed.
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                                                  • 36mafia
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-08-09
                                                    • 2389

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Snowball
                                                    thanks, lyons ! Seeing some angles in the Denver game.
                                                    Obviously Denver would be the fix, to move the series further and at home.
                                                    Salvatore is in, you know he's an asset. The historical edge however is actually on the Over.
                                                    This crew is a combined 42-24 Over when the line is over 205.
                                                    Moreover, only one, Ron Garretson, is 13-15 skewing that record.
                                                    Malloy is 15-6 Salvatore is 14-3..so 2/3 of the crew is 29-9 over 205.

                                                    looking into Atlanta also with Bavetta.
                                                    winner winner..
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                                                    • Snowball
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 11-15-09
                                                      • 30049

                                                      #61
                                                      already like the over in tomorrow night's Dallas@Spurs.
                                                      It's only 191 and may move up a little so I'm taking some now.
                                                      Both teams can shoot extremely well, among the best in the NBA.
                                                      Reliable buckets, elimination game intensity will be high but so will scoring, and free throws.
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                                                      • No coincidences
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-18-10
                                                        • 76300

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Snowball
                                                        already like the over in tomorrow night's Dallas@Spurs.
                                                        It's only 191 and may move up a little so I'm taking some now.
                                                        Both teams can shoot extremely well, among the best in the NBA.
                                                        Reliable buckets, elimination game intensity will be high but so will scoring, and free throws.
                                                        Couldn't agree more, Snow.

                                                        I have it capped at 102-96 SA.
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                                                        • uanl
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-10-09
                                                          • 825

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by cleaveland
                                                          You'll love this article:

                                                          HOLYBET777 situs slot gacor hari ini dan agen judi slot online terpercaya penyedia game judi online 777 gampang menang.


                                                          Your theory is explained in detail. It was written years ago for a gambling site... everyone at SBR needs to read this article!
                                                          thanks for the article...great stuff...supports my thoughts as well....
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