Reminder: Fixing NBA games is LEGAL by US Law.

[Snowball]

The NBA is controlled by one man. A Jewish lawyer from New York City and member of the Council of Foreign Relations. This one man slaps 25k and 50k fines like they are going outta style. He makes decisions concerning individuals futures. He has expanded the playoff setup for more games for more profit ever since he was involved. Now his word is ALL. He promotes the stars of the league because they sell the tickets and jerseys and sneakers.
It’s not ILLEGAL to tell refs to fix games.
It’s not ILLEGAL to FIX GAMES straight up.
It’s a game. It is entertainment and the sole property of the NBA. It's just a sporting event of which players, owners and fans alike are subject to the "rules" of the league. These rules are not laws. It’s like the WWF and he’s Vince McMahon. He can do whatever he wants. Team owners are complicit because they depend on the league. They may complain. They may sell or move their clubs but they want to make $ too. Plus they figure it may correct itself someday. Sooner or later they get their shots at a championship and all is ok for a while.
Money corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The NFL is getting more and more like this too. That's why they are protecting top quarterbacks and throwing the ball more.

[SRBI]

You know there is a disclaimer that plays after each and every nationally televized NBA/NFL game - it reads: "This programming was meant for entertainment purposes only." - not in those exact words, but you get the drift.

Lots of broke NBA bettors wondering why the Clippers couldn't hold 10 points in Toronto

[tltaylor89]

Crazy shit

[THE DEVIL]

great picks last night

[lyon804]

Snowball, you and me have found something we are in agreement in. As far as the fixing goes I believe most or all players are innocent. The corruption is in the refereeing in the NBA as evidenced by Tim Donaguay. I am not saying all games are fixed, but some are. I know you are saying this on the heels of your beloved Celtics getting out shot 2-1 on the free throw line last nite on there home court.. KG after the game had this to say..." I thought I was out there playing Micheal Jordan as much as he got the whistle" referring to Durant. I didn't watch the game, but saw highlights and the 3 shot foul they called for Durant was evident BS.. He got touched, hurd the whistle and through the ball towards the rim.. He never intended on shooting the ball at that time.

[Snowball]

the fix is from the top down.

agreed not all games.. last night was a pro-OKC fix, not an anti-Celtics fix, OKC could have been playing anyone, same thing would have happenned.

Donaghy held back in his book. He never crossed the "line" blaming Stern directly.

The trick is to figure out what team the Commisioner's cabal wants to win in situational games.
Last night was because they want OKC in playoffs with as many home games as possible.
I plan to tail OKC now. I already do like them, but knowing their shortcomings may be offset by official favoritism is an added edge.

lyon: do you think they are less likely to blatantly fix nationally-televised games such as tonight's TNT matchups ?

[haps247]

is this for real, i cant belive a multi millon doller industry could get away with this, its on live tv, for millons of people to watch, how could you fix it, other teams would complain, look what happend to juva and milan in seira A, i find this way to hard to believe

[og4667]

its not about fixing the games its about having an agenda of what direction you want the teams in the league to go and how that can end of benefiting the league as a whole. The NBA head office assigns certain refs to certain games and the type of refs assigned to a particular game tells you a lot about what type of calls will be made in that game and for who. Its not suprising at all considering all the different levels of corruption in the world.

[lyon804]

the fix is from the top down.

agreed not all games.. last night was a pro-OKC fix, not an anti-Celtics fix, OKC could have been playing anyone, same thing would have happenned.

Donaghy held back in his book. He never crossed the "line" blaming Stern directly.

The trick is to figure out what team the Commisioner's cabal wants to win in situational games.
Last night was because they want OKC in playoffs with as many home games as possible.
I plan to tail OKC now. I already do like them, but knowing their shortcomings may be offset by official favoritism is an added edge.

lyon: do you think they are less likely to blatantly fix nationally-televised games such as tonight's TNT matchups ?

Rarely, do I see anything blantant on the referee's calling a game. Teams that they are in benefit of winning and or covering the game always get the "benefit" of the call. Referes's can't downright fix something without drawing too much attention. You may not believe this,but there is very little that separates the best team in the league to the worst team in the league. especially, if we are talking 2 playoff caliber teams. If the lesser team gets the benefit of all the close calls in a game they will most certanly win if not cover the spread.


Your right Snowball... The orders come from the top and are passed down to the refs. The refs are just doing as told. I don't think most refs have an agenda. Most are naturally honest people, but work in a corrupt world that is not only controlled by the NBA, but also controlled by NY City and Las Vegas. It has been going on for years and years. The comments are suttle to the refs.. They never get orders to directly fix a game, but there orders are clear when you read between the lines as Tim Donaguay pointed out.

its not about fixing the games its about having an agenda of what direction you want the teams in the league to go and how that can end of benefiting the league as a whole. The NBA head office assigns certain refs to certain games and the type of refs assigned to a particular game tells you a lot about what type of calls will be made in that game and for who. Its not suprising at all considering all the different levels of corruption in the world.

Right on brother.. I see this ain't your first ride at the rodeo.

[JayTrotter]

If u really want to go down the rabbit hole, look up the youtube videos about the LA lakers versus the sacramento kings alleged fix... Sacramento queens???

Basketball is the most easily influenced by the referees, look at the script in college for the NAME programs in terms of fouls... first half about even foul shots, maybe even a little behind, second half the NAME program shoots more free throws, and KEY players on the other team will get into foul trouble...

[JayTrotter]

If u want to talk fixes, look at the pass interference calls the saints got at home... and file it under, things that make you go hmmmmm?

[heathcliffm]

if there is cheating going on then......I WANT IN!!!!

[JayTrotter]

the real opportunity is to be on the side of the situation. NBA is about marketing. see Wade's amount of free throws in his finals appearance...

[bozeman]

the fix is from the top down.

agreed not all games.. last night was a pro-OKC fix, not an anti-Celtics fix, OKC could have been playing anyone, same thing would have happenned.

Donaghy held back in his book. He never crossed the "line" blaming Stern directly.

The trick is to figure out what team the Commisioner's cabal wants to win in situational games.
Last night was because they want OKC in playoffs with as many home games as possible.
I plan to tail OKC now. I already do like them, but knowing their shortcomings may be offset by official favoritism is an added edge.

lyon: do you think they are less likely to blatantly fix nationally-televised games such as tonight's TNT matchups ?

Snowball when you were talking about donaghy bookie, what is it?

[hels]

I think everyone who is anti 'fixing' needs to loosen their definition of a fix. There is no way possible the refs can MAKE a team win, however it is possible to make a win or a certain outcome more likely. The thing is, it's not obvious what they do or how they do it. It's little things that most of us don't see. Some easy ways to influence the outcome of a game by an official:
1) Miss foul calls
2) Give more freethrows
3) 3 in the key
4) Out of bounds direction
5) Key players getting fouls
6) Travelling/DD's etc.
7) Influence the pace
8) Calls in final quarter

Those are just the easiest ways to sway a game one way of the other. The players on the floor aren't the only professional's out there, the refs are professionals as well. Whoever their in arena boss is on the current night (assigned by the Stern) comes in and says, "hey guys, all the best tonight, let's hope OkC can continue their good play eh? It's bringing lots of attention and good for the league all of their winning. Have a good game!" The refs aren't dumb and listen to what they've just heard as they want to work tomoro's games as well. All of their 50/50 calls suddenly go towards OkC as well as a couple gimme calls too. That simple folks.

[malay76]

good stuff, some of the crap they get away with is sickening.

[Wilforth]

There'll ALWAYS be fixing. All you need do as a gambler is to get on the right side of the fix.

[Domestic]

If this is true then why didn't the cavs get to face the Lakers in the finals last year?

[anjaru]

Remember when they put the straight jacket on you that the arms go in the back. Let me guess, you also think 9/11 was an inside job, also masterminded by a Jewish man?

[PAULYPOKER]

Snowball, you and me have found something we are in agreement in. As far as the fixing goes I believe most or all players are innocent. The corruption is in the refereeing in the NBA as evidenced by Tim Donaguay. I am not saying all games are fixed, but some are. I know you are saying this on the heels of your beloved Celtics getting out shot 2-1 on the free throw line last nite on there home court.. KG after the game had this to say..." I thought I was out there playing Micheal Jordan as much as he got the whistle" referring to Durant. I didn't watch the game, but saw highlights and the 3 shot foul they called for Durant was evident BS.. He got touched, hurd the whistle and through the ball towards the rim.. He never intended on shooting the ball at that time.

Did you see Stephen Curry's play in the Jazz game? they put the camara on him right before tip off he looked like the cat that swallowed the canary

[rfr3sh]

If this is true then why didn't the cavs get to face the Lakers in the finals last year?

they will be in the finals this year..

[Domestic]

they will be in the finals this year..

All right then.

[PAULYPOKER]

they will be in the finals this year..

Only if the public doesn't think so

[sportsbetwin]

It's only a scam if you're not in on it!