Lebron James is OUT

**williams22** · 03-08-10, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Include me in that group of stupid people. Regardless of injury history and all that other shit the cavs are a joke without Lebron.

The Cavs are playing without the most valuable player in the game (not even arguing about best right now) AND without a true center. Furthermore, Mo is in the worst shooting slump of his Cavs career. I'm taking Spurs and that way I'm either happy or rich at the end of the game

**lyon804** · 03-08-10, 06:31 PM

Are you talking Spurs ML?? I agree it is good value, but I also think they will lose tonite. The Cavs if you take away there firstQ on the Road to the Bucks they won that game the rest of the way by 4 pts.

**tk101** · 03-08-10, 06:32 PM

[501] SAN ANTONIO +185

**yisman** · 03-08-10, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by williams22

I've got nearly 500 on it, yisman put the full 2000, and I'm sure others have as well. Did you get some on it LB?

it was up there for a heck of a long time after books pulled the line.

About 6 hours between when the old line was taken down and Cris's line feed sent in the new one. It was sitting there the entire time.

Anyone betting in those 6 hours took the Spurs, I'm sure, and it was +185 instead of the new line, which is about Spurs even.

I wish the SBR Book had higher limits. I would've put more on. I'm thinking 2500 or 3000.

Maybe it wins, maybe it doesn't, but either way it was a must bet and a max out kind of bet.

**MUHerd37** · 03-08-10, 06:33 PM

I would bet the Spurs except for the fact that Tony Parker is out.

**williams22** · 03-08-10, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by yisman

it was up there for a heck of a long time after books pulled the line.

About 6 hours between when the old line was taken down and Cris's line feed sent in the new one. It was sitting there the entire time.

Yup that's when I hit it. Also made some nice parlays with it.

**lakerboy** · 03-08-10, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

Are you talking Spurs ML?? I agree it is good value, but I also think they will lose tonite. The Cavs if you take away there firstQ on the Road to the Bucks they won that game the rest of the way by 4 pts.

I got it for sbr points. I totally disagree with you lyon - cavs cant beat spurs without lebron. Spurs are playing good right now and would have given the cavs a good game even if Lebron played. Lebron is so huge for them and Spurs are better than the bucks.

**aca** · 03-08-10, 06:35 PM

Best of Luck!

**yisman** · 03-08-10, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

Are you talking Spurs ML?? I agree it is good value, but I also think they will lose tonite. The Cavs if you take away there firstQ on the Road to the Bucks they won that game the rest of the way by 4 pts.

Teams behind by that much usually outscore their opponents for the rest of that game. That's saying nothing.

Take out the first quarter last night and Portland outscored Denver.

Take out the first quarter on Friday night and the Knicks outscore d the Raptors in Toronto.

Take out the first quarter on Friday night and the Nets beat the Magic.

**QUEST001** · 03-08-10, 06:37 PM

Best of Luck Williams I'm backin you and Spurs..Thanks for keeping us updated on lebron 2day...Spurs money line +180 for me 3 units and +7 6 units...

**williams22** · 03-08-10, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I got it for sbr points. I totally disagree with you lyon - cavs cant beat spurs without lebron. Spurs are playing good right now and would have given the cavs a good game even if Lebron played. Lebron is so huge for them and Spurs are better than the bucks.

A few other factors here:
- Pop is too good of a coach to overlook this team without Lebron.
- The Spurs are a veteran team and will come to play
- The Spurs are a much better defensive team than the Bucks

Here's a bet to look at:
Spurs 1st Quarter, or even first 6 minutes if you are daring. The Cavs absolutely need Delonte and Varejao on the floor to be successful without Lebron. These guys won't see the court for at least the first 4 minutes, maybe more.

**lyon804** · 03-08-10, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I got it for sbr points. I totally disagree with you lyon - cavs cant beat spurs without lebron. Spurs are playing good right now and would have given the cavs a good game even if Lebron played. Lebron is so huge for them and Spurs are better than the bucks.

So you think everybody in this thread is getting paid out???

Me, I have the best of both worlds.. San AN +6 Cleveland -1

**yisman** · 03-08-10, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Lebron is so huge for them and Spurs are better than the bucks.

However, the Bucks were at home. The Spurs are on the road without Parker. That's why you have Cavs -1.5 instead of Cavs +3.5.

I was more comfortable with the Bucks bet, really.

**yisman** · 03-08-10, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by QUEST001

Best of Luck Williams I'm backin you and Spurs..Thanks for keeping us updated on lebron 2day...Spurs money line +180 for me 3 units and +7 6 units...

You must've bet them at different times. When they were +7, the ML was like +235 or something.

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Anyway, I wouldn't go for the middle unless you had it handicapped as a Cavs win even without LeBron. I think it's better to just go with the original bet at Spurs +5.5 or more and the ML.

**yisman** · 03-08-10, 06:44 PM

more things to consider:

The Saturday night game was Cleveland's first game without LeBron this season and of course the first game without LeBron and with Jamison. You'd think the Cavs would be better prepared. More practice time, a game under their belts.

While Cleveland without LeBron is always going to have problems, having Jamison and Mo Williams means the offense isn't a complete black hole like it used to be.

**lakerboy** · 03-08-10, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by lyon804

So you think everybody in this thread is getting paid out???

Me, I have the best of both worlds.. San AN +6 Cleveland -1

I already have spurs +7 small. Its sbr points so if i lose no big deal on the moneyline. Sometimes it is easy bro.

**kishipp** · 03-08-10, 06:49 PM

cavs will WIN AT HOME!!! 5 UNITS ON THE CAVS

**secret007** · 03-08-10, 06:51 PM

Still can get Spurs +7.5 @1.46 ..

**QUEST001** · 03-08-10, 06:51 PM

Yisman..Yes different times..

**landers781** · 03-08-10, 06:52 PM

I am going to be taking the Cavs at home as a pickem. Call me crazy or what you will. Dont think this is a bad bet. Of course I should have grabbed spurs plus 6.5 but I didnt act.

**williams22** · 03-08-10, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by secret007

Still can get Spurs +7.5 @1.46 ..

Where?!

**Bluehorseshoe** · 03-08-10, 06:53 PM

This game reeks. Lebron didn't play last game and they threw out a line of -8 to start. Smells like a trap.

**landers781** · 03-08-10, 06:54 PM

Actualy will wait til tip, line might go more in my favor

**landers781** · 03-08-10, 06:55 PM

Cavs +2 now

**tltaylor89** · 03-08-10, 06:55 PM

Phew line shot to a PK faster than Paris Hilton can pull her panties down

**yisman** · 03-08-10, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by landers781

Cavs +2 now

yep. just saw the books move to it.

wtf?

03/08 10:20 +7½ -110 / -7½ -110
03/08 10:24 +7 -110 / -7 -110
03/08 10:40 +6½ -110 / -6½ -110
03/08 11:26 +6 -110 / -6 -110
03/08 11:38 +5½ -110 / -5½ -110
03/08 11:56 +5 -110 / -5 -110
03/08 18:19 +1½ -110 / -1½ -110
03/08 18:22 +1 -110 / -1 -110
03/08 18:26 PK -110 / PK -110
03/08 18:52 -1 -110 / +1 -110
03/08 18:53 -1½ -110 / +1½ -110
03/08 18:56 -2 -110 / +2 -110

9.5 point move from the opener.

**playa420** · 03-08-10, 06:56 PM

waited to long and got spurs -1.5, it shouldn't matter though cause without king James the cavs aint shit!!

**QUEST001** · 03-08-10, 06:56 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**kishipp** · 03-08-10, 06:56 PM

Cavs all the way tonight. Even w out james

**landers781** · 03-08-10, 06:57 PM

Wow guys that got the spurs +7 is a fantastic bet. Congrats

**Powderguy** · 03-08-10, 06:57 PM

WOW -2, LeBron is the king of line movement

**yisman** · 03-08-10, 06:57 PM

also the total dropped a few more points.

5 Dimes:

03/08 11:59 193 -110 / 193 -110
03/08 18:19 191 -110 / 191 -110
03/08 18:21 190½ -110 / 190½ -110
03/08 18:27 190 -110 / 190 -110
03/08 18:32 189½ -110 / 189½ -110
03/08 18:44 189 -110 / 189 -110

**landers781** · 03-08-10, 06:58 PM

Well I hit cavs +2, have a feeling I will need some luck here..but someone else is going to step up and take lebrons shots

**secret007** · 03-08-10, 07:00 PM

williams 22.. it was on betfair for a long amount of time...

As soon as I wrote it here, it was gone in 5 minutes

.. and i only put VERY SMALL on it

**secret007** · 03-08-10, 07:01 PM

1.33 now @betfair