Why are the suns -5.5 favorites over the cats tomorrow

mkasad23 · 01-26-10, 01:34 AM

suns do have some issues

mkasad23 · 01-26-10, 01:35 AM

i might go bobcats moneyline again

LLXC · 01-26-10, 02:11 AM

Leaning on the over in this one.

MoneySpeaks · 01-26-10, 02:43 AM

Games played at PHOENIX over the last 3 seasons.PHOENIX is 1-0 against the spread versus CHARLOTTE over the last 3 seasons PHOENIX is 2-0 straight up against CHARLOTTE over the last 3 seasons 1 of 2 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

I expect bobcats to manhandle phoenix tomorrow.

BernardMadoff · 01-26-10, 03:02 AM

Because the Bobcats just dont play well on the road, their 3 wins out of 20 games on the road are why the line is what it is.

S.K.M. · 01-26-10, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

please someone tell me why that line is so high

I really think that a lot of people still have it in their heads that the Suns are a good team. They are not. I think people also will expect them to bounce back from a tough loss. There is also the revenge factor. And, as already stated, the bobcats are not good on the road. I will not be playing on the suns though that is for sure.

zoukakos · 01-26-10, 04:06 AM

The handi is at 6,5 because the Cats basically SUCK BIG on the road, i think lb the line is set correct here

shawnjohn5 · 01-26-10, 05:23 AM

I'd have to disagree LB!!

Originally posted by zoukakos

The handi is at 6,5 because the Cats basically SUCK BIG on the road, i think lb the line is set correct here

I also think this line is pretty close to where it should be. The suns are no longer a dominant team, however they are no slouch of a team either. The Cats are horrid 3-17 away and the Suns are 17-5 at home, why shouldn't the team that wins almost 80% of it's home games be favored by 5-6 over a team that wins only 15% of the time away??? Going from Charlotte to Denver to phoenix and they are on a b2b, I'm staying away from this game but if I were to play it the correct play is the suns no doubt!! Or possibly the under, depending on what the total is!!!

Shark · 01-26-10, 09:37 AM

yea I agree shawnjohn. Charlotte on a b2b and they are bad enough on the road as it is. Being on a b2b won't help that. If CHAR brings some defense tonight though I could see them covering.

cecbo · 01-26-10, 09:45 AM

I agree, Charlotte is a whole different team at home vs away. I was leaning on Suns but may just stay away because of two factors. One, Suns are playing poorly as of late. And two, Charlotte is a team that may decide to come to play and keep this close. I still think that the Suns will win, but may not cover the -5.5.

cecbo

laziie · 01-26-10, 11:16 AM

charlotte suck on the road...

THEGREAT30 · 01-26-10, 11:21 AM

Charlotte has lost like 3 in a row now, both teams need a win, Suns have more firepower and that's all this game will be about is scoring. Charlotte is missing there inside defender in Chandler,so the defensive mystique they once had is gone. Both are bad teams right now so I would take the underdog or the over.

702corvette · 01-26-10, 11:31 AM

Suns are 9-2 ATS for 1st game back home from the road this season. I am leaning on Suns right now. They also played well against the Jazz last night. The Jazz made a miraculous comeback in the last couple minutes of the game though. I was watching that game very closely. I had Jazz-7.

Glitch · 01-26-10, 12:11 PM

you do realize the bobcats only have 3 road wins right? and that the suns throw up roughly 875 points a game...right?

http://glitch.mysbrforum.com/blog/

sportsguy04 · 01-26-10, 12:15 PM

Suns Big tonight. Suns by Double Digits.

lakerboy · 01-26-10, 12:17 PM

You do realize that the suns stink on b2b games right. If you watched that game with jazz last night you know the suns are hurting and also hit like 17 3 pt shots otherwise they would of lost big time. I didn't say cats were going to win did I? How many games have the suns covered out of the last 10 b2b nights- someone please tell me thanks in advance

Quagmire27 · 01-26-10, 12:42 PM

Spreads off the top of my head make it 3 up 7 down the last 10 b2b, not official, but that's being generous on 2 of the covers, most of the losses were blowouts.

Last time these 2 played, had the Suns coming off an equally crushing loss

sulica · 01-26-10, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

How many games have the suns covered out of the last 10 b2b nights- someone please tell me thanks in advance

Suns had only 9 B2B games this season and only two of them were at home (last 9):

vs GS (Won by 9; PHO spreed -11,5)
@ CHA (L 26; +3)
vs HOU (W 8; -4,5)
@GS (L 5; -3)
@LAL (L 20; +9,5)
@CLE (L 17; +7,5)
@LAL (L19: +8)
@PHI (W 4: -1,5)
@ORL (L 12; +7,5)

So SUNS are 2-9 ATS on B2B games this season but only two of them were at home ATS 1-1.

iceaxe56 · 01-26-10, 12:54 PM

nash will light it up--home---revenge---lastnightloss=cover--no need to say any more

ouman101 · 01-26-10, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by BernardMadoff

Because the Bobcats just dont play well on the road, their 3 wins out of 20 games on the road are why the line is what it is.

Your right they have 3 wins out of 20 games on the road, but the important number is that they are 11-9 ATS on the road. No, that isn't an overly impressive number, but it looks a hell of a lot less lopsided when you look at the number that most people care about.

lyon804 · 01-26-10, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by sulica

Suns had only 9 B2B games this season and only two of them were at home (last 9):

vs GS (Won by 9; PHO spreed -11,5)
@ CHA (L 26; +3)
vs HOU (W 8; -4,5)
@GS (L 5; -3)
@LAL (L 20; +9,5)
@CLE (L 17; +7,5)
@LAL (L19: +8)
@PHI (W 4: -1,5)
@ORL (L 12; +7,5)

So SUNS are 2-9 ATS on B2B games this season but only two of them were at home ATS 1-1.

Good work Sulica!!

Quagmire27 · 01-26-10, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by sulica

Suns had only 9 B2B games this season and only two of them were at home (last 9):

vs GS (Won by 9; PHO spreed -11,5)
@ CHA (L 26; +3)
vs HOU (W 8; -4,5)
@GS (L 5; -3)
@LAL (L 20; +9,5)
@CLE (L 17; +7,5)
@LAL (L19: +8)
@PHI (W 4: -1,5)
@ORL (L 12; +7,5)

So SUNS are 2-9 ATS on B2B games this season but only two of them were at home ATS 1-1.

Thanks for the legit b2b spreads

missing the Dec 12th 6 point loss @ Den ? figure they covered that ?

og4667 · 01-26-10, 01:12 PM

Cats are also 8-3 ATS off of b2b and 9-2 off a non conference game. I think this is really more of a fade play against the Suns than on the Bobcats. Both teams have gone 3 games without a cover so I might just pass on this one, but I lean Cats. Shit, Cats might even be worth a small shot on the ML.

iceaxe56 · 01-26-10, 01:20 PM

while your wondering why phx is 5.5 fav--why is la favored by just 7 with jamison and arenas out for wash--welcome to the nba--yeah(no-brainer) they are fixed--but as long as your on the right side who cares.

sulica · 01-26-10, 01:29 PM

What about OVR in Cha@Pho? I usually don't like OVR in Charlote games but this is interesting:

Charlotte is 5 Over - 2 Under in their B2B games
Pheonix is 12 Over - 5 Under in B2B games
Over/Under in last 5 Cha-Pho games in Pheonix 4 over - 1 under

Nimo · 01-26-10, 01:57 PM

I have the SUNS according to my own line at -5. I am playing the cats +5.5

jcljack25 · 01-26-10, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

You do realize that the suns stink on b2b games right. If you watched that game with jazz last night you know the suns are hurting and also hit like 17 3 pt shots otherwise they would of lost big time. I didn't say cats were going to win did I? How many games have the suns covered out of the last 10 b2b nights- someone please tell me thanks in advance

Thats most people's problem, they dont look to cover, they want the team they think is going to WIN. I dont care if I have a team getting 1.5 or 14.5 as long as they lose by less than they are getting.

This is why most public top bet games go the other way. Most of the time, its a favorite giving a low number that gets huge attention. They win but dont cover and Bookies take home even more to their safe.

SpreadSniper · 01-26-10, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by jcljack25

Thats most people's problem, they dont look to cover, they want the team they think is going to WIN. I dont care if I have a team getting 1.5 or 14.5 as long as they lose by less than they are getting.

This is why most public top bet games go the other way. Most of the time, its a favorite giving a low number that gets huge attention. They win but dont cover and Bookies take home even more to their safe.

LOL - I always think about the "Two and a Half Men" episode where Charlie and the lil fat kid are watching sports. They both are looking at the TV with extreme interest, both on the edge of their seats. Suddenly, they both jump up "YAAA!!!!", right at the moment someone walks in and says "Oh, who won"
Little fat kid response - "Who cares, they covered the spread"

damn near pissed my pants.

BebeRebozo · 01-26-10, 02:21 PM

Is Grant Hill gonna play?

Dark Horse · 01-26-10, 02:23 PM

Both teams are without rest. That can favor the favorite.

Suns are great fade material these days, especially when they get up by 15 pts. The Suns can only play one way, and when the other team figures them out, they have no response. But it does require the other team to find an extra gear, and without rest CHA may not have that.

xxbadazxx · 01-26-10, 02:51 PM

I AM A HUGE CATS FAN SO I KNOW THEIR ROAD WOES, GOTTA GO WITH PHO EVEN THOUGH I DONT LIKE IT!!

Busterflywheel · 01-26-10, 02:53 PM

Fading the suns tonight might just be the play of the night..

Snowball · 01-26-10, 02:56 PM

Suns are due for a cover
both teams stressed and tired
allowing 3-4 points for home advantage, it's almost a pick.
Charlotte is not a defensive team
I have no problem going Suns here at all

lakerboy · 01-26-10, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

Suns are due for a cover
both teams stressed and tired
allowing 3-4 points for home advantage, it's almost a pick.
Charlotte is not a defensive team
I have no problem going Suns here at all

where do you get your info from? Charlotte allows 93.1 points per game no 1 in the nba, on the road they allow 96 ppg no 5 in the nba. sure they have picked up there offense but that statement is way off the mark.