Simmons gets his feeling hurt by Reggie Miller on the TNT broadcast so sits a game. Another bad loss... Irving says "I need to be a better example for those guys in the lockerroom". They need someone else!
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All these knuckleheads love calling themselves a leader. They get a real kick out of it, it seems. Leaderless.Comment -
yeah i said before i expect the air to come out of the vaughn balloon
that said, that loss v the celtics they got their head kicked in, so i am less confident now
simmons gets his feelings hurt. all i can do is pray the guy shows up for the playoffs. he might bail on the playoffs. a lot of these guys have a child's mentality, a lot of these guys never had to work a day in their lives. e.g. lebron james..since when has he had to work hard since he was a prodigy at 12 years old?
guys like watanabe and warren, as they get more experience teams learn how to defend them better, watanabe especially just hasn't been anuthing after a hot start
but, i believe in the collective talent and the coach. if they stay healthy, they have A shot (not THE shot-the celtics own that after seeing the game last week v nets)
long way to april things will changeComment -
i expect the nets to trade for a big guy who can rebound and defend the paint. they are loaded with shooters. should be a fairly easy tradeComment -
you look at both games, celtics and thunder the team fades in the 4th
same thing happened last year in the playoffs
eventually with small ball you run out of energy. which is why again they need a ben simmons (out) or durant (out) to rebound the ball. claxton is doing all he can, but if simmons and durant are out who's rebounding the ball. they brought in dayron sharpe from the g league just to get some beef inside
harris -22 with open shots, he's the guy to trade issue is his contract. if not they have no choice but to trade another 3 point shooter for a big guy
they're just too small right nowComment -
Poeltl is part of trade talks. Lots of guys in the mix
Nets like Collins, reportedly Hawks want a lot for him which doesn't make sense, the guy's shooting is down and he's a cap eater. Hawks will most likely unload Collins for a lower price, he wants out.
Woj reporting the Nets are going to be active. That the Durant injury gives them time to find out the worth of their players. Which is true. Thankfully Nets won enough games to keep them in the playoffs before Durant got injured. Nets going on a tough road trip, easiest game first, ironically Spurs/Poeltl.Comment -
i hope they get collins, because he fits their style of play. if they have to give up a shooter/curry so be it. hopefully it's just harris, but the way harris is playing going to be hard to unload the guy and his capComment -
Simmons reportedly making the road trip. But he's a definite reason why they MUST find a big man. Because you don't know if Ben Simmons is even going to be available for the playoffs, at any game at any minute the guy can say no not this game.
They have 1 other big guy, Claxton. That's IT. Amazing, when you think about it, for an NBA team. Unless you want to count G-league Sharpe.Comment -
I'd like to see Poeltl wind up in a Mavs uniform. Mavs can do a lot better than Powell. Whoever gets him wont be disappointed... great combination of defense and skill -most centres with defensive ability like him don't have any skill.Comment -
Mavs or Raptors. If he goes to the Nets he will never see the ball. Just Durant & Irving taking turns.Comment -
yeah Spurs supposedly like him. Whoever comes to the Nets needs to rebound, screen, protect the rim. Scoring is not required.
Guessing it's going to have to be contender-to-contender trade, where Nets trying to bargain with a team also trying to win the title. Because it's hard this year to find bad teams just looking to unload. I'm sure the Nets are going to make a move, they can trade a variety of shooters (Harris, Curry, Watanabe, Irving, Mills) and others (o"neale, sumner, thomas) for a big guy. Basically offer the team minus Simmons, Durant, Claxton...we'll give you what you need, you give us what we need.Comment -
“Brooklyn is going to be active,” said Woj.
But Woj also reported that things are slow right now in the trade market. Not enough mediocre teams have decided whether they want to go for it, that is make the post-season, or rebuild.
“Brooklyn [Nets], like a lot of other contenders out there in both conferences, see a marketplace right now that is much more of a sellers than a buyers market. Just Not enough teams have really made the decision that they’re going to be sellers, that they’re out of it for the play-in, for the playoffs. And usually that happens closer to that February 9 deadline.”
They have an owner in Joe Tsai who’s shown a willingness to take on salary to run up their luxury tax bill. This is clearly the ultimate win-now team in the NBA.” Woj said
There have been reports that the Nets are among the teams interested in John Collins, the 6’10” power forward, but there have also been reports that the Hawks are not interested in Joe Harris, who would be an easy salary match. There’s also been speculation that the Nets might be thinking about someone less expensive. Alex Schiffer has proposed Nick Richards, the Hornets 7-footer, while Kevin Pelton thinks Chris Boucher, the Raptors 6’9” back-up might be a good fit.Comment -
not to keep pushing this thread but...there's another reason they must trade
after seeing the celtics beat the bolls off the nets in brooklyn, the nets have no shot unless they upgrade. if they lose to the celtics again this gm's job is up in the air/job security. not sure where they would go with an aging durant after this year.Comment -
I was watching him & Poeltl play each other earlier in the season. The gap defensively and on the boards is not that big between them! Poeltl came into the league as a slightly undersized and underskilled big... he's gotten a lot stronger and more skilled. In a year or two Poeltl will pass him -if it's not happened already.Comment -
Richards would be an upgrade over Claxton. He would do for them what they hoped DJ/ Drummond would do.
Jazz will be sellers. Maybe even Clarkson can be had... Markkanen & Kessler will be out of bounds though -lots of black players over the years have said they don't want to play in Utah so they're keen for white ballers that can play.Comment -
Mavs had interest in Collins for a while. Talented player BUT... NBA teams want 3&D bigs these days. Collins is an average defender and a substandard shooter, therefore doesn't move the needle.Comment -
yeah Richards would do some good. the guy rides pine, shouldn't be a hard pickup.
Speaking of bench players, Kessler would be an upgrade, they need a goon down low. HOWEVER the guy has been on fire lately, and they already traded for the guy recently, like Gobert you rarely see double trades often. And he's 21, young and raw, he doesn't seem to take the game seriously/smiling on the sidelines, Nets want to win now.
Agree Collins is normally don't move the needle, but the moves the needle for the Nets. They need size, a rebounder. They could use a guy who has agility on the break, agility to recognize and move with passes from Simmons-Collins is perfect for that, he is a loose player.
The problem with the Nets is their scoring has gone way down. Why? Because they focus on rebounding. This takes away energy on the other end, when they depend on Kyrie to box out. They are an inbalanced team.
Of course they'll wait until February to make the trades, as teams see if they have a legit shot at a title. If not, there will be a lot of moves. And if they are contenders, there will be moves from both teams to make them better. Should be fun.
Nets HAVE to make a move for a big player who can rebound, period. Perimeter defense and shooting is not at a premium, though mid range shooting from a big would be a big help. Obviously Markkanen would be a great addition, but there is absolutely 0 chance on getting that all-star if Utah has any brains. But hopefully they can trade with Utah or a team.
You look at teams with the highest # of offensive rebounds in the league, they are the Knicks, Grizz, Rockets, Raptors, Hornets. These are not teams lighting the league on fire with title threats, other than the Grizz. There has to be something there, where the Nets can offer scoring, I think the most tradeable guy on the Nets is Curry, the guy is a great shooter and should start for a lot of teams but on the Nets they have plenty of Currys on the team. It's a shame for that guy imoComment -
Can't have Simmons/ Collins/ Claxton on the floor at the same time and expect to score at modern NBA efficiency. They would be decent defensively but no amount of offensive rebounding would compensate for Durant getting swarmed every possession -well, unless they rebounded every single miss lol.
Nets are hopeless. Fundamentally flawed. Durant a selfish player, and his wingman Irving equally selfish with less ability. Durant even clashed with coach Kerr in Oakland for being too selfish. He felt he was the MVP of the team but the offense flowed better when he wasn't iso'ing. Now he's iso'ing and there's no better option (that's a bad thing).Comment -
Durant really ****** his legacy up ...it's been well documented. He could have been an honourable #2 to James in his prime but he kind of cheated with the move to the Warriors which was enabled by the changes in the CBA that summer. Years from now people will attribute his success to the Warriors because after all they won before AND after him.Comment -
yeah that's his motivation, to prove exactly what you said wrong, that he just rided the warriors to the title. he tore his achilles. could have been amongst the greatest of all time. so like i said he's super motivated but he is aging fast on a rebuilt achilles. i'm almost glad he gets a month off, he was playing a lot of minutes
i don't think they're hopeless if they get a big. obviously they have to get past the celtics, which is why they get a big
they won't have simmons/collins/claxton on the same floor often. they have only 2 bigs now, simmons and claxton. and neither is a true big. they are viciously small. they'll have 2 of them on the floor at the same time, over the game. and that's if simmons is playing. otherwise collins and claxton are locks to start and play as many minutes as they can. they will swarm durant, but they will have 2 other guys that can score, and 2 of the 3. that's a legitimate title contenderComment -
Hmmm not every story has a feel good ending. You reap what you sow. I understand why he went to the Warriors; left a degenerate pg that chases stats to join a guard that makes his teammates look wonderful.... but replace him with Wiggins and they still get at least one championship. He ****** up and I don't think the league/ refs feel anything for him.Comment -
Kd known to do it cause of one guy who stole the limelight
Lebron of courseComment