Celtics Nets

[budwiser]

Big game tonite, imo because this is the first time it's Vaughn vs Mazzulla, and the first time Simmons will guard the Celtics

of course durant out

on tnt

might have a play, because i think both teams will bring their a game knowing they are the main contenders for the east, along with the bux. i'll think about it later

[IBetYou]

Yes, might be worth a play. As you've said they've responded to Vaughn -and this another test to respond to...

Celtics have been a tad flakey. They have nothing to prove here.

[IBetYou]

Doncic vs James is the 2nd part of the TNT double header. Nets/ Mavs? I can see Doncic lighting up the old guy. Mavs lead the series 1-0.

[IBetYou]

Blazers/ Cavs another interesting one... a matchup of struggling teams but which of them has the worst problems? I think Blazers take it.

[IBetYou]

Will swerve the Mavs. Don't like the line

[budwiser]

Yes, might be worth a play. As you've said they've responded to Vaughn -and this another test to respond to...

Celtics have been a tad flakey. They have nothing to prove here.

Celtics can be flakey but i'm pretty sure they bring their a game

They know their title hopes go through the nets. They want to continue to show dominance over the nets, not have the nets feel they can truly beat them

Lots of layers to this game. Simmons one of the nba players, like kawhi, who have the length and athleticism to shut down brown or taytum. But will that actually happen

There is a real chess game for tonight. One of the best games of the regular season imo

[budwiser]

Will swerve the Mavs. Don't like the line

Definitely not playing that game. No feel

It's a shame luka doesn't have a good team around him

Talk about flakey that defines lakers

[IBetYou]

Celtics can be flakey but i'm pretty sure they bring their a game

They know their title hopes go through the nets. They want to continue to show dominance over the nets, not have the nets feel they can truly beat them

Lots of layers to this game. Simmons one of the nba players, like kawhi, who have the length and athleticism to shut down brown or taytum. But will that actually happen

There is a real chess game for tonight. One of the best games of the regular season imo

Bucks are the beast of the East so it's possible these teams don't actually meet in the playoffs. But if they do then it's the Durant-led team they'll be needing to beat. Celtics have shown a susceptibility to playing down to a team missing it's star player player -got blown out in OKC vs a thunder team that was missing SGA for crying out loud. Anyway, I'm talking you into your own bet here lol

[IBetYou]

Bucks are positively terrifying. That frontline of Middleton/ Ingles/ Anteto'/ Portis/ Lopez with Holiday in the backcourt...

[budwiser]

Bucks are the beast of the East so it's possible these teams don't actually meet in the playoffs. But if they do then it's the Durant-led team they'll be needing to beat. Celtics have shown a susceptibility to playing down to a team missing it's star player player -got blown out in OKC vs a thunder team that was missing SGA for crying out loud. Anyway, I'm talking you into your own bet here lol

Yeah nets ml is the play 4 me

That's why #1 seed important to avoid the trio, though cavs philly threaten a little

[budwiser]

Bucks are positively terrifying. That frontline of Middleton/ Ingles/ Anteto'/ Portis/ Lopez with Holiday in the backcourt...

Did you hear yannis not playing...got only 7 points last game

Middleton of course injured

Portis lopez both marginal inconsistent players

Not high on the bux

[budwiser]

Supposedly brown questionable, smart williams horford out. Gotta confirm

[budwiser]

If all those guys out + durant obviously game less important

[budwiser]

Latest horford out brown ? Williams smart in

How much real how much gamesmanship don't show your hand with new coachs + durant out

[IBetYou]

Brown & Horford OUT. Should be a good one.

Meanwhile Blazers 3pt dogs... what's going on there? Maybe I've underestimated their struggles. Seems they're better at home though under Billups reign.

[budwiser]

Answer to simmons tatum is tatum looks for screens to get off simmons. Looks if he can to go against kyrie. That's a good reason why he's a great player

[budwiser]

Simmons 7 assists on the 1q. You get what the plan is

[budwiser]

Simmons foul trouble. He's got to stay out of foul trouble for the nets to beat the celtics. He matches up very well with their players

[budwiser]

As I said they need Simmons on the floor. At the half, Nets down 3, but were +10 with Ben on the floor. Difference of 13 points. Plain obvious.

[budwiser]

Barkley Reggie Shaq all over Ben Simmons for not shooting the ball and scoring. Only Kenny understands Ben, saying he's doing a great job.

The stats don't lie. +10 with him on the floor, -13 without. Let the kid play the game. I can imagine a coach telling Ben you gotta score-that coach is an idiot imo. Watched a lot of Nets games, if Ben has a shot he takes it.

[IBetYou]

What coach is an idiot? The imaginary coach?

[budwiser]

What coach is an idiot? The imaginary coach?

yeah good point...

looks like i got this game wrong. without simmons on the floor the nets are getting destroyed. down 8. watanabe looks like he belongs back in the d league. nets are just getting killed. credit to the celtics. it's no wonder they beat the nets 8 times in a row. they are manhandling the team.

[budwiser]

Nets just don't have it in them to beat the celtics.

I have nets futures. I can only hope someone beats the celtics before the nets get to them.

They fell right into the celtics trap. Intimidated and destroyed 2nite.

[IBetYou]

No balance for the Nets. Irving wants to score all the time, Simmons wants to pass all the time. Irving's not a lead guy.

[IBetYou]

Bad foul there by Irving. That'll be it

Lakers/ Mavs & Blazers/ Cavs starting soon. Lillard was apparently questionable hence the price coming in for the Blazers (now probable).

[budwiser]

No balance for the Nets. Irving wants to score all the time, Simmons wants to pass all the time. Irving's not a lead guy.

Yeah agree. Celtics got it figured out

Even the refs have a,mancrush for the celtics. Everyone does.

[budwiser]

Nets got lit up tonite. There's no way to sugarcoat it.

[budwiser]

Bad foul there by Irving. That'll be it

Lakers/ Mavs & Blazers/ Cavs starting soon. Lillard was apparently questionable hence the price coming in for the Blazers (now probable).

Skippin those games. Like i said regular season games i try to stay away from. Shot the bed 2nite on my pick.

Looking at the nfl playoffs this w/e

[IBetYou]

I though Reggie was spot on about Simmons. Your 6'10 driving to the basket with hops and yet everyone in the building knows you're going to pass it. Mental issues on that team unparalleled... I liked the fact they were dogs initially but that changed just a bit with the Celtics holding guys out -it wasn't going to be OKC all over again! But never mind, onwards & upwards.

[IBetYou]

He wants someone to tell him it's OK to not score lol. It's not OK paly, you gotta put the ball in the basket.

[budwiser]

Well there was only one player on the entire nets team with a + next to his name in points when he was on the floor. Simmons. +10.

Every other net player was - points on the floor.

It's like the old tcu v ohio state game. So many people thought tcu had a chance.

Lotta people r idiots. Including guys who played the game.

[budwiser]

So how they make this all about simmons sux....

If he sucked how come the difference between him being on the floor or not was 21 points

Part of the reason he didn't score was because he's passing screening rebounding

But, I'll never win that argument. Remember all reggie did was score.

[budwiser]

This does not bode well for the Nets to be able to play the Celtics at all. That said...it's one regular season game without durant.

What the team can't do is overreact and make this bubble into more problems. On to the next game.

[IBetYou]

So how they make this all about simmons sux....

If he sucked how come the difference between him being on the floor or not was 21 points

Part of the reason he didn't score was because he's passing screening rebounding

But, I'll never win that argument. Remember all reggie did was score.

He's a good player but when a guy like Durant goes down you need certain players to step up, not get into foul trouble or be afraid to look at the rim. There was an anonymous scout in the rumour mill a couple months back saying Simmons appeared relieved whenever he walked off the floor in foul trouble. Why the hell is he getting into foul trouble so often? Gotta defend without fouling.

[budwiser]

He's a good player but when a guy like Durant goes down you need certain players to step up, not get into foul trouble or be afraid to look at the rim. There was an anonymous scout in the rumour mill a couple months back saying Simmons appeared relieved whenever he walked off the floor in foul trouble. Why the hell is he getting into foul trouble so often? Gotta defend without fouling.

Yeah i just fundamentally disagree with all of that.

Put it to you this way. The Nets scored 98 points. That's terrible for a team of shooters. Why? Because when Simmons wasn't on the floor, he wasn't screening. When he was on the floor, he'd dish the ball out and screen for the player getting the ball, which is why they scored more often. Without him on the floor, they had nobody screening, it was hero ball 1 on 1.

So if you're rebounding, screening, assisting, playing point, how much time do you have to focus on scoring?

He was not happy being in foul trouble at all. That was my take.

He did his job. When he was on the floor the team outplayed the Celtics. I'm not sure what these armchair experts want out of a team sport.

In the end, it was a team loss. Get your /ss whipped, heck the Celtics occasionally get their /ss beat too. Happens to all teams. If they are a mature team, they move on from this.

There was a stat out there where the team without Durant is just a bad team.

I do agree he needs to learn to defend without fouling. A lot of cheap fouls, unnecessary. If he gets those type of fouls he's killing the team.