Nuggets defense - where are adjustments?

Shark · 08-24-20, 12:38 PM

Totally agree. Need plumlee’s defense if anything is going to change. Can’t believe I’m saying that, but true. Also, Jamal Murray was giving up as many points as he was scoring last night.

europe_baller · 08-24-20, 12:46 PM

I agree.. Not sure really what those coaches are doing on the side.. I don't get it man.. I understand they tried 5 things and none of them worked.. I dont think they stopped Jazz from scoring on 15 possessions for the whole game lol and jazz just missed those...insane

IBetYou · 08-24-20, 01:50 PM

Was thinking the same. Seemed to me the best defenses during the season would 'gap' pick & rolls. Nuggets like you say have that same pathetic strategy all series. To do the same thing and expect a different result is the definition of madness! It's not like he doesn't have defensive players -he's got Grant & Craig. Malone goes down a peg in my estimation.

europe_baller · 08-24-20, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Was thinking the same. Seemed to me the best defenses during the season would 'gap' pick & rolls. Nuggets like you say have that same pathetic strategy all series. To do the same thing and expect a different result is the definition of madness! It's not like he doesn't have defensive players -he's got Grant & Craig. Malone goes down a peg in my estimation.

For sure...and I like Nuggets as a team young and so..But that goes only so far.. Malone was horrible...zero coaching I would say..put the zone...or box and grant on Mitchell..I mean something..I would punch someone on that bench or teammate If I was on the floor there for 3 straight games and all we could do is take the ball from the net...zero leadership from players too..

rm18 · 08-24-20, 02:07 PM

They miss Barton more than people thought he is the only player that is above average on both ends of court. Gary Harris might play game 5. Maybe an adjustment they could make is put Jokic on Ingles or Oneale.

IBetYou · 08-24-20, 02:16 PM

Well Garris Harris is their best perimeter by far imo, and the series would look a lot different with him in there but that doesn;t excuse teh coaching. Quite possible he gets fired this summer. Coaches in basketball are never as safe as they think.

IBetYou · 08-24-20, 02:18 PM

Best as a guard I should say. Grant & Craig both top defenders but neither one a guard. Craig is guard size but extremely limited offensively.

sosawestbrook · 08-24-20, 03:08 PM

fair enough but lets give some credit to Spida. couple of world class performances from him not only this series but the earlier bubble game against Nugs as well. his burst is next level & he has finally improved his playmaking out of the PnR. they cant guard him.

europe_baller · 08-24-20, 03:09 PM

yeah they miss Harris and Barton big time.. Barton can get to hoop, rebounds well is scrappy player... Harris is outstanding defender, get easy buckets in fast break and can shoot.. This would have been a lot different with them 2 in...but again like Ibet said..no excuse for coaching...

IBetYou · 08-24-20, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by sosawestbrook

fair enough but lets give some credit to Spida. couple of world class performances from him not only this series but the earlier bubble game against Nugs as well. his burst is next level & he has finally improved his playmaking out of the PnR. they cant guard him.

Conley & Clarkson are also lighting up the Nuggets with tremendous efficiency. It's really not about Mitchell. Saw Mitchell go against his teammate Gobert in the World Cup last summer. Mitchell was captain of team USA... How do you think that went?

europe_baller · 08-24-20, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by sosawestbrook

fair enough but lets give some credit to Spida. couple of world class performances from him not only this series but the earlier bubble game against Nugs as well. his burst is next level & he has finally improved his playmaking out of the PnR. they cant guard him.

He did elevate his game from last year playoffs by a mile.. and he will improve even moew.. Of course he deserves credit.. Same thing when clarkson coming off pick and just walks into three..Jokic was nowhere around...

sosawestbrook · 08-24-20, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Conley & Clarkson are also lighting up the Nuggets with tremendous efficiency. It's really not about Mitchell. Saw Mitchell go against his teammate Gobert in the World Cup last summer. Mitchell was captain of team USA... How do you think that went?

its ALL about Mitchell. he set the tone in the first game when he dropped 57. its not by coincidence that he is breaking records left & right. he has clearly evolved his game during the hiatus, which shouldn't come as a shock since that 3rd & 4th year in the league are crucial turning points for a player's development (remember its still summer where normally all these big shifts occur in skillset/mindset)

its like the leader of the pack hunting down the big prey. he was the one that caught it. he set the energy & the rest of the crew have joined the feeding frenzy. Clarkson & Conley's success is nothing w/o Spida doing what he's doing. this is how you become a superstar in the league. we are seeing hard work & dedication manifest itself before our very eyes (where usually we have to wait for the winter)

sosawestbrook · 08-24-20, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by europe_baller

He did elevate his game from last year playoffs by a mile.. and he will improve even moew.. Of course he deserves credit.. Same thing when clarkson coming off pick and just walks into three..Jokic was nowhere around...

facts. though I don't know what changes Nugs can make this late in the series. they weren't prepared for the evolution of Spida Mitchell. just gotta play the hand they've been dealt now. you can't bench Joker in late game situations.

I can only imagine if this Utah team still had Bogdanovic. that would be a scary sight with the way they are hooping right now.

europe_baller · 08-25-20, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by sosawestbrook

facts. though I don't know what changes Nugs can make this late in the series. they weren't prepared for the evolution of Spida Mitchell. just gotta play the hand they've been dealt now. you can't bench Joker in late game situations.

I can only imagine if this Utah team still had Bogdanovic. that would be a scary sight with the way they are hooping right now.

Well they can try to double him up on pick and roll and make sure he gives it up...Gobert is clumsy and can lose that ball driving to the hoop from ft line 3 out of 5 times if they collapse.. make onealle hit that corner 3 consistently when you close out...you have to show on those screens and not drop.. put milsap to guard gobert and jokic on oneale.. put jokic on ingles..he can scory once or twice 1 on 1 but he cant dominate every possession like Mitchell can.. Make someone else beat you.. Lakers are picking up Dame full court..show hard..make him drive where they got big guys...They made adjustments.. Denver made none..

asiagambler · 08-25-20, 02:41 PM

Malone is not a good coach. Lineups/rotations terrible. Late with adjustments. So many times Nuggets just don't even show up. Not to mention his terrible late game situation management

europe_baller · 08-25-20, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Malone is not a good coach. Lineups/rotations terrible. Late with adjustments. So many times Nuggets just don't even show up. Not to mention his terrible late game situation management

Yeah he can be fired after this.. Also after they traded Beasley and Harris and Barton hurt their guards are not that good... I want to play them so bad since it is hard to beat a team 4 times in like 8 days but.....

IBetYou · 08-25-20, 07:33 PM

Mitchell hasn't taken a next step at all. Put Clarkson in the start unit and Mitchell on the bench and it's Clarkson going for 50. Murray has matured I think. Better defensively/ stronger.

The kid Porter is awful. This the guy that said Doncic was overrated on draft night. Horrendous defensively. Looks totally overwhelmed by the moment -strung out!

IBetYou · 08-25-20, 07:34 PM

Doesn't get into a defensive stance. Loses sight of his man.

IBetYou · 08-25-20, 07:44 PM

Well we got what we wanted with the trapping. Wish they'd done this in game 4.

europe_baller · 08-25-20, 08:20 PM

Exactly.. and see how Ingles miss wide open three, like i said Gober clumsy will lose it few times.. give them different looks and its different game..

IBetYou · 08-25-20, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by europe_baller

Exactly.. and see how Ingles miss wide open three, like i said Gober clumsy will lose it few times.. give them different looks and its different game..

First time the Jazz scored less than 124pts in a game this series!!!!!!!!!

europe_baller · 08-26-20, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

First time the Jazz scored less than 124pts in a game this series!!!!!!!!!

Murray played great game but he can be so good.. he has killer instinct too.. I think Nuggets can take game 6 too.. Also parlayed nuggets +3, and Rockets -3 today thought Russ will be in but he is out...hmm

europe_baller · 08-31-20, 03:24 PM

Nuggets adjusted some, showed some traffic to Mitchell and he still dropped 44 but with some contested threes.. Murray was phenomenal but on the other hand Utah hasnt made any adjustments defensively last few games... Denver better team if we cross mitchell/murray...

IBetYou · 08-31-20, 03:42 PM

So who wins game 7? Pressure of the big game changes things a bit. Joe Ingles has been quiet -no longer a big part of the Jazz' get mine offense. But he;s a big game player if there ever was one. I think Jazz take it.

Going to be the best game of the series. We might see some defense!

europe_baller · 08-31-20, 03:58 PM

Nah I dont think so.. Denver are at least 25% better team with Harris back in the lineup.. He is going after rebounds, chase his man, helps on weak side..Grant is full of confidence, Porter will shot bit better.. Although with all these shots Jazz were in it but I think they never really had a chance last night..Nuggets already won "2 games seven" for them and I think they do it again as of now...

asiagambler · 08-31-20, 05:52 PM

I still don't like Denver coach. I lean towards Jazz but was hoping for better line

europe_baller · 09-01-20, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by asiagambler

I still don't like Denver coach. I lean towards Jazz but was hoping for better line

I am not in love with him either but he did change the game with second unit and gave Plumlee more minutes.. He has to play for Denver to be decent defensive team.. Snyder really havent changed anything in the game last time out neither and I think he is very good coach.. Sometime it is easier for us on the sideline to judge.. He chose to make Murray keep contested shots then Porter, grant or some other guys wide open and he was wrong.. We will see tonight... I am leaning Nuggets really and Raptors in other game

IBetYou · 09-01-20, 10:27 PM

Strange game. Strange series. Conley penetrating things up at the end numerous times for the Jazz. That's their season in a nutshell. They thought he'd be a great fit next to Mitchell, but it just never clicked.

asiagambler · 09-01-20, 11:09 PM

The under was the easiest bet in the history of the NBA apparently