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  • WillyBoy
    SBR MVP
    • 06-19-18
    • 1988

    #1
    The Limper NBA – Week 1/14/20 - 1/20/20
  • WillyBoy
    SBR MVP
    • 06-19-18
    • 1988

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    • WillyBoy
      SBR MVP
      • 06-19-18
      • 1988

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      • WillyBoy
        SBR MVP
        • 06-19-18
        • 1988

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        • WillyBoy
          SBR MVP
          • 06-19-18
          • 1988

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          • WillyBoy
            SBR MVP
            • 06-19-18
            • 1988

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            • CallMeJinx
              SBR Rookie
              • 12-26-19
              • 30

              #7
              1/17:
              Projected ATS winners based off your image.
              CHI +7.5
              SA -8.5

              1/17 Results posted based off your image
              PHI -6.5
              ATL +9

              Why did the system change the side to make it look like a win? I only noticed these because I took them.
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              • WillyBoy
                SBR MVP
                • 06-19-18
                • 1988

                #8
                Originally posted by CallMeJinx
                1/17:
                Projected ATS winners based off your image.
                CHI +7.5
                SA -8.5

                1/17 Results posted based off your image
                PHI -6.5
                ATL +9

                Why did the system change the side to make it look like a win? I only noticed these because I took them.
                The key is the projected MOV which never changes, but as lines change, the model’s projected winner could easily flip – as it did in your 2 examples. In your first example, the projected MOV was PHI by 7.1, and the line was PHI -7.5, which made Chicago the projected ATS winner. When the line dropped, however, to PHI -6.5, the model’s final pick naturally flipped to Philadelphia. Similarly, in your second example, the projected MOV was SAN by 8.9 and with a line of -8.5, the model projected a San Antonio cover. However, the line jumped to -9.0 which, being more than the model projected SAN to win by – 8.9 – the pick flipped to Atlanta.

                In these instances the pick flips were “wins”, but more often such flips become “losses”; however, I have found that using closing lines to grade the model is the best, most accurate, and public way to do so. Using the lines from the original post is too arbitrary a way to grade accuracy.

                Ps. I lost on San Antonio too, and I got it at -9 – against the model’s MOV projection! Popovitch rested his team in the 4th qtr – they just didn’t play defense – and the Hawks outscored them 33 to 21! Which is so typical of Popovitch I should have known.
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                • WillyBoy
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-19-18
                  • 1988

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                  • WillyBoy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-19-18
                    • 1988

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                    • CallMeJinx
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 12-26-19
                      • 30

                      #11
                      Originally posted by WillyBoy
                      The key is the projected MOV which never changes, but as lines change, the model’s projected winner could easily flip – as it did in your 2 examples. In your first example, the projected MOV was PHI by 7.1, and the line was PHI -7.5, which made Chicago the projected ATS winner. When the line dropped, however, to PHI -6.5, the model’s final pick naturally flipped to Philadelphia. Similarly, in your second example, the projected MOV was SAN by 8.9 and with a line of -8.5, the model projected a San Antonio cover. However, the line jumped to -9.0 which, being more than the model projected SAN to win by – 8.9 – the pick flipped to Atlanta.

                      In these instances the pick flips were “wins”, but more often such flips become “losses”; however, I have found that using closing lines to grade the model is the best, most accurate, and public way to do so. Using the lines from the original post is too arbitrary a way to grade accuracy.

                      Ps. I lost on San Antonio too, and I got it at -9 – against the model’s MOV projection! Popovitch rested his team in the 4th qtr – they just didn’t play defense – and the Hawks outscored them 33 to 21! Which is so typical of Popovitch I should have known.
                      Makes sense, I thought those were the final takes each day. Post these 15min before game time! Lol, BOL 🍻
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                      • WillyBoy
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-19-18
                        • 1988

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CallMeJinx
                        Makes sense, I thought those were the final takes each day. Post these 15min before game time! Lol, BOL 
                        When I first started posting NBA projections (and I was just a 70 year old kid), I used to post all during the day, right up to a couple minutes before tip-off for each game. Well, that was then, this is (sigh) now – lol
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                        • CallMeJinx
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 12-26-19
                          • 30

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WillyBoy
                          When I first started posting NBA projections (and I was just a 70 year old kid), I used to post all during the day, right up to a couple minutes before tip-off for each game. Well, that was then, this is (sigh) now – lol
                          haha commitment! You may be one of the most experienced cappers here. Also, I was joking, just have to wait for line movement. 🍻🍻
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