Couple thoughts on the games

**europe_baller** · 12-23-19, 02:39 PM

got paid on nuggets last night .. charlotte messed up my okc play..looking at the games now..

**europe_baller** · 12-23-19, 03:07 PM

So what do we think about these:

Suns + 3 and ML at 2.3 vs Nuggets - I think Suns really need a win which doesn't mean they will get it but I think they go all out for this one. Couple games they are getting back Booker , no Rubio no this or that.. They are tough at home while Nuggets on b2b.. They hit their shots yesterday and are very deep team which should help them in back to back but I believe Suns can take this one. They played last game in Denver really well too and had a lead at halftime.

Pistons +6.5 vs 76ers- Embiid is ? and also is Blake.. Kennard is out which hurts pistons a lot but rose is back. Thibylle is out and he is their best perimeter defender and I think we will see that in coming games. Pistons have been underperfoming a lot but I think especially is EMbiid is out this is game for taking. You can never trust them but I think they are in good spot here..

Wolves -1.5 vs Warriors - They just can't close the game.. They were trailing for most of the game in Portland and had a lot of chances in the 4th but Lillard and Cj were too much and they just had some silly turnovers and missed shots when it mattered. Towns could be back here and even if he isn't Pascall and Robinson are ? for tonight.. Not sure I can trust them as favors on the road but I think they sneak out a win here..

Looking into Jazz, Pelicans, Hawks but not sure.. Haven't placed any bets yet..

**killersweet** · 12-23-19, 05:38 PM

Tough to trust teams like pistons or wolves. I like hawks.

**europe_baller** · 12-23-19, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by killersweet

Tough to trust teams like pistons or wolves. I like hawks.

I agree but how can we trust hawks then

? I played them in Brooklyn and they folded so bad.. They do get Collins back but his first game back.. I was looking into them too.. Not sure yet.. More I like more I like Magic -5..

**Vulcan300** · 12-23-19, 06:07 PM

the hawks get collins back from suspension not from injury so i guess the angle he's been ready to play and help this team.
cavs hard to trust when they string together two wins in a row and 'look' good. honestly they should have lost to grizzlies. the hawks need help and this is it.

i like the magic, they should have won at utah and denver but gassed out at the tail end of their long road trip at port. they have a similar record but magic is waaay better and don't rely on one player. 50/50 on both sides and the line slightly moves by 1 point. magic take everything they learned on this trip and apply it tonight.

**killersweet** · 12-23-19, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by europe_baller

I agree but how can we trust hawks then

? I played them in Brooklyn and they folded so bad.. They do get Collins back but his first game back.. I was looking into them too.. Not sure yet.. More I like more I like Magic -5..

Very true. Hard to trust them too. I was thinking Collins provides them better balance. Cavs playing better. Could come down a crappy quarter.

**killersweet** · 12-23-19, 06:31 PM

Also players on vacation mode. Not sure who’s going to show up.

**IBetYou** · 12-23-19, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Vulcan300

the hawks get collins back from suspension not from injury so i guess the angle he's been ready to play and help this team.
cavs hard to trust when they string together two wins in a row and 'look' good. honestly they should have lost to grizzlies. the hawks need help and this is it.

i like the magic, they should have won at utah and denver but gassed out at the tail end of their long road trip at port. they have a similar record but magic is waaay better and don't rely on one player. 50/50 on both sides and the line slightly moves by 1 point. magic take everything they learned on this trip and apply it tonight.

I like Hawks. Collins is exactly what they need. No way he can be in game shape, and likely out of rhythm but these kids deserve a win. Nance OUT for the Cavs. They'll miss his versatility in the 2nd unit -line moved 3pts for that!!

Wont be fading the Bulls. Had them down as a hot team at the start of the season, and it hadn't materialised until recently. Call it coach getting in their way, or maybe Markkanen not 100%, or just new players finding chemistry.

edit: Clarkson traded. OK that makes more sense

**IBetYou** · 12-23-19, 06:58 PM

Market loves the Sixers... getting a 6.5pt handicap on the road with Embiid sick. Not saying it's a bad line, just an observation...

**IBetYou** · 12-23-19, 09:31 PM

Damn we're all getting killed! I won't post again. Better off doing stats work than watching this BS and chatting about it.

**Vulcan300** · 12-23-19, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Damn we're all getting killed! I won't post again. Better off doing stats work than watching this BS and chatting about it.

it's all good brotha, hearing the different opinions & reasons is good. think im done with hawks for a lil bit lol. luckily magic got it right for me.

**Vulcan300** · 12-23-19, 09:46 PM

adding to my notes the suspension/injury return is probably a bad idea on the road, i'm sure if hawks were at home that edge would have worked. doesn't help cavs were lights out.

**europe_baller** · 12-23-19, 10:01 PM

Yeah i just think i have bad experience with hawks.. I got magic but missed hawks..waiting if jazz can pull +5, pels +6 and suns left..

**Vulcan300** · 12-24-19, 07:23 AM

nm no games today lol

**europe_baller** · 12-24-19, 02:22 PM

You guys talked me out of wolves and pistons.. Hit suns spread not sure how money line didnt cash..also ended up taking pels live on 2.8 odds and it was good.. who do we like tomorrow... I am leaning toward Philla at home.. dont like fading raptors but you would think Celtics take that one.. leaning lakers too but not sure...

**killersweet** · 12-25-19, 12:56 AM

Raptors and Celtics play close games and usually comes down to final few mins. Normally the home team prevails. But raptors missing key players may hurt them today. But they play bloody hard. I am leaning bucks as they look unstoppable so far. Also like the rockets to take care of gst.

**chargers4222** · 12-25-19, 09:13 AM

How you gonna have a thread called "Couple thoughts on the games" that is nearing 11 pages?

**Vulcan300** · 12-25-19, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by chargers4222

How you gonna have a thread called "Couple thoughts on the games" that is nearing 11 pages?

had previous threads we just commented on some games; those ended and this one stayed i guess lol

**europe_baller** · 12-25-19, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by chargers4222

How you gonna have a thread called "Couple thoughts on the games" that is nearing 11 pages?

Haha I really dont care about anything but opinions on the game but you have a point.. does it really matter what it is called..

**Vulcan300** · 12-27-19, 03:19 PM

PJ washington really worth a 5 pt swing? schroder is not even ruled out yet.

**europe_baller** · 12-27-19, 03:31 PM

Haha I dont think it is beacuse of him but Charlotte was probably getting pounded after OKC display yesterday.. I had 2 good hits yesterday but not sure for today...Looking into Suns and Hawks...

**IBetYou** · 01-19-20, 07:22 PM

MLK day today EB... what you got?

**europe_baller** · 01-20-20, 12:43 AM

hey haven't looked at it yet but I will most likely fade nuggets since they had it in the bag today but combination of errors and lineup late and they lost..hit spurs in the early one nice... what about you? how have you been

**IBetYou** · 01-20-20, 02:49 AM

Yeah T'Wolves are worth a leap of faith! Catching a Nuggets team without 3 starters and coming off two hard fought battles.

Jazz smash the weary Pacers I think, with Gobert working over Sabonis. Payback for the November drubbing.

Pistons have won two straight since making Rose a starter. Wiz have apparently checked out since Beal returned. On the other hand the talent level is even, and the Wiz can probably flip the switch at home.

**europe_baller** · 01-20-20, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Yeah T'Wolves are worth a leap of faith! Catching a Nuggets team without 3 starters and coming off two hard fought battles.

Jazz smash the weary Pacers I think, with Gobert working over Sabonis. Payback for the November drubbing.

Pistons have won two straight since making Rose a starter. Wiz have apparently checked out since Beal returned. On the other hand the talent level is even, and the Wiz can probably flip the switch at home.

Yeah I think this is 3rd back to back for Nuggets in like 10 days or so , something crazy I think...

Could be Jazz very easy. I remember that game I was on Jazz

.. Pacers had no business wining that game but McDermott kept hitting threes in 4th and Malone kept Craig because of defense and he allowed couple wide open threes.. Providing help off the guy that hit like 3 in a row..

Then Plumlee got in and missed like 3 fts late in the 4th..

Yeah Wash should win that one.. McRae is ? but I feel like they need more win then Pistons even Pistons play better as of late..

Also leaning Nets, Hornets, Kings, Rockets... not sure..many games on board

**IBetYou** · 01-20-20, 12:51 PM

I'm not betting Wiz. Leaning Pistons. Rose is happy to be starting again, so I'm thinking they'll be good for a 3rd in a row.

3rd b2b in 10 days incl is right (Nuggets), though and extra rest day between each. For the T'Wolves Towns is on a mins restriction still...

11-Jan	21:00	38	Den	-12.5	_	Cle	103	111
12-Jan	20:00	39	Den	1	_	LAC	114	104
15-Jan	21:00	40	Den	-12	_	Cha	100	86
16-Jan	22:30	41	Den	-3.5	@	Gol	134	131
19-Jan	20:00	42	Den	0	_	Ind	107	115
20-Jan	20:00	43	Den	2.5	@	Min	0	0

**spippen** · 01-20-20, 01:20 PM

Derrick Rose has looked like a guy playing with passion and it is carrying over to the rest of the team. For some reason the Wizards play better without Bradley "ball hog" Beal. With Jon Wall and Beal, now that's a different story. But for now Sorry Beal, but Jon Wall is the proven leader. You are a good second man.

**IBetYou** · 01-20-20, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by spippen

Derrick Rose has looked like a guy playing with passion and it is carrying over to the rest of the team. For some reason the Wizards play better without Bradley "ball hog" Beal. With Jon Wall and Beal, now that's a different story. But for now Sorry Beal, but Jon Wall is the proven leader. You are a good second man.

I prefer Beal to Wall personally. Wall is just super-quick & big. I think they were just excited to play without any stars and now he's back it's like the air went out of the balloon.

**IBetYou** · 01-20-20, 02:02 PM

OK... det+1, bro+2, min-3, uta-7

**Vulcan300** · 01-20-20, 02:30 PM

hornets in a interesting schedule spot, magic long road trip west coast back east. hornets on 5 days rest but then again, it's the hornets.

**SBR_Guest_Pro** · 01-20-20, 03:10 PM

great point man

**europe_baller** · 01-20-20, 04:35 PM

Yeah... Wizards pulled it late and Nets looking ok.. Yeah I am looking at Hornets but they always somehow shit the bed and reason why I want to fade Magic is DJ Augustine.. He is smooth, runs team well and always get to ft on pump fakes on 3.. Also expect Kings to beat Heat and now without Butler but they are just so hectic and I dont like how is Walton coaching them... They haven't imroved at all from last year..Also think Rockets cover vs OKC...

**IBetYou** · 01-20-20, 06:03 PM

Pistons ran out of steam at the end. Drummond out-played by Mahinmi.

Nets a bit too soft for the Sixers. Bright move by coach Brown to get Simmons his 2nd half rest early so he could come back and exploit the Nets' 2nd unit.

Eek! I'm looking forward to the International stuff next month to break away from this grind...

**IBetYou** · 01-20-20, 06:06 PM

Kings miss WCS -bit unfair to put it on Walton I'd say... Bit of a knucklehead but a great defender & lob guy. Bagley & Giles are just too undersized for NBA starting centres.

**europe_baller** · 01-20-20, 06:22 PM

Put dedmon in..they brought him.. yeah nets did every thing to lose that game..sooo many turnovers just so bad...