2015 NBA Finals • Golden State vs. Cleveland

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  • Ratzz
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    • 07-07-10
    • 8965

    #36
    is this ON again!?

    Warriors looking as good as ever... CAVS II looking like a contender.
    getting more cozy... Mozgov much better fit than Varejao

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    • Ratzz
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      • 07-07-10
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      #37
      'this could be ON..

      helluva matchup. probably 7 Games if it happens.

      would def start in Oakland

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      • garygroundwork
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        • 02-12-12
        • 729

        #38
        Looking good Ratzz
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        • GunShard
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          • 03-05-10
          • 10031

          #39
          I have a +450 bet on Golden State before I saw this thread.
          Nice summary and predictions.
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          • Ratzz
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            • 07-07-10
            • 8965

            #40
            Originally posted by garygroundwork
            Looking good Ratzz
            indeed.. both of these teams looking great. Warriors a bit spent from all the winning,
            but they storm right back, should be interesting


            Originally posted by GunShard
            I have a +450 bet on Golden State before I saw this thread.
            Nice summary and predictions.
            nice pick... you saw it too. They look great, good luck

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            • Ratzz
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              • 07-07-10
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              #41
              Hard to pick between the two.
              but edge may go to experience.

              CAVS Starting 5 is better.
              Curry playing out of his mind, but not better than Lebron. (who is?)

              Kyrie vs. Klay both awesome.
              Movgov stronger/faster than Bogut

              Warriors don't have an extra guy to take out LOVE on the glass..
              JR Smith more accurate from 3 than Iguadala

              Cabs would take it. (not easy) but i think they edge GSW

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              • Menses
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                • 03-15-13
                • 2755

                #42
                Ratzzstrodamus....LOL.....you might be on to something here....still early but its looking good!!!....This would be the ideal match up for the NBA...Silver might have to pull a Sterling and make it happen...Atlanta might get the Crawford special if need be..LOL....watch out folks...
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                • dmncnlou
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 02-17-11
                  • 924

                  #43
                  U know damn well little ol golden state ain't going to the finals.
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                  • Ratzz
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                    • 07-07-10
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Menses
                    Ratzzstrodamus....LOL.....you might be on to something here....still early but its looking good!!!....This would be the ideal match up for the NBA...Silver might have to pull a Sterling and make it happen...Atlanta might get the Crawford special if need be..LOL....watch out folks...
                    lol... a real one.. Mensodamus sounds pretty catchy too!

                    Originally posted by dmncnlou
                    U know damn well little ol golden state ain't going to the finals.
                    nothing is 100%

                    but this team is damn good, and who would beat them in a series on the road?

                    Clippers.. unlikely..

                    Spurs.. too old/tired

                    Blazers.. nope..

                    Grizzlies are the only team with a chance to beat GSW, in my opinion

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                    • olamide
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                      • 06-15-14
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                      #45
                      I don't see anyone from the west besting the warriors in a series with the way they play bar Grizzlies and east, there's only one team named Cleveland.
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                      • Ratzz
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                        • 07-07-10
                        • 8965

                        #46
                        Originally posted by olamide
                        I don't see anyone from the west besting the warriors in a series with the way they play bar Grizzlies and east, there's only one team named Cleveland.
                        yup.

                        my thoughts exactly pretty much

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                        • Ratzz
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                          • 07-07-10
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                          #47
                          Cavs just get more comfortable and better..

                          not only do they seem the best in the East, they seem like a NBA Champion already.
                          all the guys look really relaxed..

                          nobody plays over 30 minutes anymore, or rarely..
                          they almost always win the first 3 Qtrs... then lose the 4th by 8 pts. or more–

                          and stil manage to win by double-digits

                          hard to see anyone in the East except the Hawks give them a really hard time, Toronto possibly
                          but i think Cavs will be the No.2 Seed

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                          • Big Bear
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-01-11
                            • 43253

                            #48
                            Lebron will turn it up a notch in the playoffs. Its just on cruise control at the moment
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                            • Ratzz
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                              • 07-07-10
                              • 8965

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                              Lebron will turn it up a notch in the playoffs. Its just on cruise control at the moment
                              i think you are right.. –3.5 vs. Golden St.

                              i was expecting lower.. like –1, or –1.5

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                              • Ratzz
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                                • 07-07-10
                                • 8965

                                #50
                                ok, folks..

                                NBA Finals preview (serious chance)
                                though Finals would open in Golden St.

                                i think Cavs tonite

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                                • Seto
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                                  • 12-16-11
                                  • 12906

                                  #51
                                  The main reason Golden State is so dangerous that many people don't seem to be mentioning is because of how hard it is to win in their building. If they have the number 1 seed you have to win at least once in their building. And if they take 1 of 3 in yours - you have to take 2 of 4 in theirs which is basically impossible.

                                  Memphis is still my pick but for that reason you can't minimize Golden State's chances. LOL at people who think homecourt doesn't matter. Seeding doesn't matter in the sense that most teams in the West are pretty even so it doesn't really matter who you play, but homecourt is everything. Especially given many of those series could go the distance.
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                                  • Ratzz
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                                    • 07-07-10
                                    • 8965

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Seto
                                    The main reason Golden State is so dangerous that many people don't seem to be mentioning is because of how hard it is to win in their building. If they have the number 1 seed you have to win at least once in their building. And if they take 1 of 3 in yours - you have to take 2 of 4 in theirs which is basically impossible.

                                    Memphis is still my pick but for that reason you can't minimize Golden State's chances. LOL at people who think homecourt doesn't matter. Seeding doesn't matter in the sense that most teams in the West are pretty even so it doesn't really matter who you play, but homecourt is everything. Especially given many of those series could go the distance.
                                    i totally agree.. i think that Miami beats San Antonio with home court last year, it matters.
                                    As it did the previous year.

                                    Miami beat OKC without home-court, but it usually is a clincher, or worth one full game to swing the series

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                                    • Seto
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                                      • 12-16-11
                                      • 12906

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Ratzz
                                      i totally agree.. i think that Miami beats San Antonio with home court last year, it matters.
                                      As it did the previous year.

                                      Miami beat OKC without home-court, but it usually is a clincher, or worth one full game to swing the series
                                      Last season and the 2012 Finals were mismatches. Homecourt wouldn't have really changed much in either of those series IMO.

                                      I would anticipate many close series in the West this year though so HCA will certainly matter. And the Warriors HCA is something else. Winning a playoff game there is some seriously tough shit.
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                                      • Ratzz
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                                        • 07-07-10
                                        • 8965

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Seto
                                        Last season and the 2012 Finals were mismatches. Homecourt wouldn't have really changed much in either of those series IMO.

                                        I would anticipate many close series in the West this year though so HCA will certainly matter. And the Warriors HCA is something else. Winning a playoff game there is some seriously tough shit.
                                        not when that team is mentally defeated. The Warriors think that they are better than everyone else except the Cavs.

                                        how they think of themselves and their opponent is a significant factor

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                                        • garygroundwork
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-12-12
                                          • 729

                                          #55
                                          This was a great call Ratzz..I still reakon its Cavs v GSW or maybe Memphis
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                                          • Ratzz
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                                            • 07-07-10
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by garygroundwork
                                            This was a great call Ratzz..I still reakon its Cavs v GSW or maybe Memphis
                                            i do still think it will be the Warriors vs. the Cavs

                                            starting 5 on both just kill everybody else in both Conferences..

                                            and bottom line it will be the Cavs i think,
                                            the best player on the Cavs (LeBron)
                                            is better than the best player on the Warriors (Curry)

                                            is Klay Thompson better than Kyrie Irving? so much so that it negates LeBon over Curry?

                                            Love is better than Iguadala,

                                            ESPN has these two teams on a collision course, i do as well.

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                                            • Ratzz
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                                              • 07-07-10
                                              • 8965

                                              #57
                                              Cavs handling the Grizzlies AT HOME so easily.. WOW

                                              when was the last time the Grizzlies allowed 100 pts at home in a LOSS?

                                              Cavs will rest starters in the 4th i am sure.

                                              up 25 pts with 5 minutes left in the 3rd

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                                              • Ratzz
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                                                • 07-07-10
                                                • 8965

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Menses
                                                Well there is always the possibility that the Warriors may peak too soon in the regular season...however...boys eventually put away childish things and become men...it may very well be their turn this year...the team is leaving it all on the floor as of late...on both sides of it....and they have depth....Memphis is the only team who may have a chance...outside of the Spurs of stopping them...
                                                you wrote this quite along time ago.. Menses,

                                                but i wonder if it's not happening now.. GSW is 10-0 in their last 10

                                                i think it is important to get in some quality losing in before the playoffs start
                                                better for them to lose a couple i think, before they really count.

                                                nobody can catch them.. it is just for regular season records now. which is meaningless (imo)

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                                                • Ant2nv
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-09-08
                                                  • 220

                                                  #59
                                                  Wow ratzz was spot on ive just seen this thread!!

                                                  Its not that Cavz are unbeatable its just that the East is rubbish, the only team i can see beating Cavz are the Bulls..and they will meet in the second round, winner will play ATL in East Con finals..and i just can't see ATL beating Cavs in a 7game series.

                                                  The west is even..G.state v okc..okc might get 1-2games max! Houston v Dallas..flip a coin(leaning Hou if howard is 100%), Memphis vs spurs 1st round give me spurs, Port vs Clips will prob go 7 games..
                                                  G.state v Clips/port = G.state in 5/6 games, Houston v Spurs = spurs in 6
                                                  G.state v Spurs = 7game series with G.state holding on..

                                                  G.state vs Cavz final = G.state in 6games
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                                                  • Ratzz
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                                                    • 07-07-10
                                                    • 8965

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Ant2nv
                                                    Wow ratzz was spot on ive just seen this thread!!

                                                    Its not that Cavz are unbeatable its just that the East is rubbish, the only team i can see beating Cavz are the Bulls..and they will meet in the second round, winner will play ATL in East Con finals..and i just can't see ATL beating Cavs in a 7game series.

                                                    The west is even..G.state v okc..okc might get 1-2games max! Houston v Dallas..flip a coin(leaning Hou if howard is 100%), Memphis vs spurs 1st round give me spurs, Port vs Clips will prob go 7 games..
                                                    G.state v Clips/port = G.state in 5/6 games, Houston v Spurs = spurs in 6
                                                    G.state v Spurs = 7game series with G.state holding on..

                                                    G.state vs Cavz final = G.state in 6games

                                                    hey Ant2nv... i am thinking Cavs in 6..

                                                    i like your breakdown of the West, sounds pretty good..
                                                    i think GSW winning too much down the stretch, at least NBA is series based.. not like NCAA

                                                    people need to relax, play bad.. can't be "on" all the time..

                                                    great job on your picks.. let's see if it goes don like that..
                                                    i think Spurs won't be able to roll late with the young legs.. any OT game they would fade late

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                                                    • Ant2nv
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 12-09-08
                                                      • 220

                                                      #61
                                                      Yeah spurs are old & run out of Gas but are winners.. they slow the game down, play at their speed and are tough to beat in a 7 game series, i worry abit about G.state being nervous late in games, spurs have the experience.

                                                      In the east its interesting now with paul george returning, indy might get 8th seed and set up Atl vs Indy first round..if Millsap is injured i give indy a 50/50 chance.
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                                                      • Ratzz
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                                                        • 07-07-10
                                                        • 8965

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Ant2nv
                                                        Yeah spurs are old & run out of Gas but are winners.. they slow the game down, play at their speed and are tough to beat in a 7 game series, i worry abit about G.state being nervous late in games, spurs have the experience.

                                                        In the east its interesting now with paul george returning, indy might get 8th seed and set up Atl vs Indy first round..if Millsap is injured i give indy a 50/50 chance.
                                                        i still give the edge to legs, speed and late game endurance. Spurs can't win in OT, they have shown that all year.
                                                        Warriors over the Spurs, if they meet. They may not meet.. the Clippers may do it to San Antonio

                                                        i think the NBA Finals will boil down to one thing:

                                                        WHO WINS ON THE ROAD?..
                                                        the Cavs or the Warriors.

                                                        whoever takes care of that, will take it all

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                                                        • garygroundwork
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-12-12
                                                          • 729

                                                          #63
                                                          Spurs looking good
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                                                          • Ratzz
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                                                            • 07-07-10
                                                            • 8965

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by garygroundwork
                                                            Spurs looking good
                                                            Spurs winning too much going in.. i still think that they can't run with GSW in the playoffs..
                                                            the guys will run tired.. Pops is great coach, but Spurs fade in OT

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                                                            • bryant81
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                                                              • 03-23-10
                                                              • 326

                                                              #65
                                                              Chill with that fade in OT crap. Kawhi didn't play in the majority of those games, so they don't really mean anything.
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                                                              • GIVEMETHEMONEY
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                                                                • 12-13-12
                                                                • 8428

                                                                #66
                                                                Spurs have won 10 in a row and they are now 3rd in their division.

                                                                Rudy T- "Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion."

                                                                Don't count my Spurs out. They have heart and the experience.
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                                                                • WildCelticsFan
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  I think this is gonna be most exciting playoffs we have seen in a long time. Even the race getting into playoffs is better this year
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                                                                  • ChiLLx
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                                                                    • 12-24-11
                                                                    • 5412

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I'd love to see GS or Spurs embarrass lebron in the finals again.
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                                                                    • Ratzz
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by bryant81
                                                                      Chill with that fade in OT crap. Kawhi didn't play in the majority of those games, so they don't really mean anything.
                                                                      age may creep up on 'em.. might slow drown in the playoffs now.. i guess we will see tonight how they look!

                                                                      Originally posted by GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                                      Spurs have won 10 in a row and they are now 3rd in their division.

                                                                      Rudy T- "Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion."

                                                                      Don't count my Spurs out. They have heart and the experience.
                                                                      Spurs down to the No.6 seed... uphill battle to say the least.. 3 road series to get out of West

                                                                      Originally posted by WildCelticsFan
                                                                      I think this is gonna be most exciting playoffs we have seen in a long time. Even the race getting into playoffs is better this year
                                                                      I agree... LeBron back in CLE.. the emerging GSW team with new coach.. should be dominant for years

                                                                      should be a good one..!!

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                                                                      • Ratzz
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                                                                        • 07-07-10
                                                                        • 8965

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Warriors playing well, but almost looking bored vs. Pelicans..

                                                                        they get behind i think just to make it interesting

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