How do you personally define a Trap?

VegasDave · 03-17-09, 04:09 PM

MonkeyF0cker · 03-17-09, 04:12 PM

I'd define it as a line that is statistically relevant but one in which a vast majority of the betting public deems to be off.

The General · 03-17-09, 04:13 PM

Good stuff, ol buddy, Dave. You drew quick on this one.

tullamore · 03-17-09, 04:14 PM

Most overused word when it comes to gambling.

The General · 03-17-09, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

I'd define it as a line that is statistically relevant but one in which a vast majority of the betting public deems to be off.

Monkey I think you are a sharp bettor. I read your replies carefully in the thread about sharps/pros not posting plays on forum. Good thread.

VegasDave · 03-17-09, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by The General

Good stuff, ol buddy, Dave. You drew quick on this one.

Old vid... some people refuse to acknowledge traps, and I respect their point of view, but all I know is that in 150 some odd plays over the last 4 years in the NFL I'm hitting 63% ATS on these plays, so I'm content

durito · 03-17-09, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Old vid... some people refuse to acknowledge traps, and I respect their point of view, but all I know is that in 150 some odd plays over the last 4 years in the NFL I'm hitting 63% ATS on these plays, so I'm content

So why aren't you betting $250,000 a game on these picks. You can get that down in the NFL.

Fiasco · 03-17-09, 04:24 PM

spurs -5 last night...

a play with heavy public action on 1 side but the line makers refuse to move the line all day

cocknocker · 03-17-09, 04:25 PM

There's no such thing as a trap. If you feel a little bit of reservation about the number, then just take the other side and add a hook. Every man woman and child has a choice and must deal with the repercussions of making that choice.

VegasDave · 03-17-09, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by durito

So why aren't you betting $250,000 a game on these picks. You can get that down in the NFL.

Going through college and working minimum wage jobs, I haven't exactly stumbled into that kind of money.

Hopefully by this football season I have enough saved up to make a good investment in these plays.

Trust me, going 25 - 11 ATS on them this year without having money to bet on them was frustrating!

MonkeyF0cker · 03-17-09, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by The General

Monkey I think you are a sharp bettor. I read your replies carefully in the thread about sharps/pros not posting plays on forum. Good thread.

Thank you, sir.

durito · 03-17-09, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Going through college and working minimum wage jobs, I haven't exactly stumbled into that kind of money.

Hopefully by this football season I have enough saved up to make a good investment in these plays.

Trust me, going 25 - 11 ATS on them this year without having money to bet on them was frustrating!

You don't have to stumble into money. If you are really good enough to hit 60% in the NFL (and no one is) you can easily turn nothing into a huge bankroll in no time.

ryanXL977 · 03-17-09, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

There's no such thing as a trap. If you feel a little bit of reservation about the number, then just take the other side and add a hook. Every man woman and child has a choice and must deal with the repercussions of making that choice.

i agree with this
people lose a game they think theyll win and they think theyre trapped

so if celts win tonite, its bc they are better, if they lose it was a trap. why is it a trap? bc the bulls are 20-11 at home? bc the celts won it all last yr ?

VegasDave · 03-17-09, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by durito

You don't have to stumble into money. If you are really good enough to hit 60% in the NFL (and no one is) you can easily turn nothing into a huge bankroll in no time.

These are spot plays, generally only one or two a week, and exercising good money management + not having much for the initial bankroll makes it difficult. In hindsight I definitely would have posted up; last year was only the 4th year of tracking these plays, I wasn't 100% sure I'd continue having success with them. And, after only about a 150 game sample size, it isn't out of the question that I've just been "lucky".

I'm not lying about my record on these, posted all of these plays every week during the season, feel free to search "philosophy picks". I can understand your skepticism, but I am being honest. I've kept honest records of my subpar performances in capping everything else

durito · 03-17-09, 04:35 PM

I saw them.