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  • ram1502
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-26-08
    • 822

    #141
    Yo Dex, I asked this the other day but I don't think I got a very "concrete" answer. In my strictly statistical handicapping system, how many points would you advice taking away from a team on the back end of a back to back or giving to a team with 1 or 2 days rest? Is this a "default" number such as -1 or -2 for a team playing back end of back to back much like you give the home court advantage 3 extra points? Or is it, which is my fear, very subjective for each team based on their performance historically on the back end of a back to back? Any help/insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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    • nonsense48
      SBR MVP
      • 12-15-08
      • 2927

      #142
      locked as follows:s.a.-3 n.o.+2 utah-4' milw-p- atl-1' orl+4' for a nickle each GOOD LUCK EVERYONE
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      • cocknocker
        Restricted User
        • 11-06-08
        • 8001

        #143
        nonsense48,

        Dexter already pointed out to ya what i'm playing. The Sixers are not in San Antonio's league when the Spurs are fully assembled. Philly caught the Spurs on the back end of a back to back the last time they played. The Sixers don't have that kind of luck on their side this time. The win over the Lakers will give the Spurs some steam. Elton Brand is only going to mess up the chemistry that the team had while he was out of the lineup.

        The Bucks and the Warriors both had a triple overtme game, with one days rest, yet folks are afraid to fade them in spite of knowing that, just because the board as a whole has gotten too far off into RLM these days. I make my picks a week in advance and that's the long and short end of it.
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        • darkenergy
          SBR MVP
          • 01-08-09
          • 4013

          #144
          CK,
          The local guy give me SA-3.5, is it still ok?
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          • SamsNCharge99
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-22-08
            • 41242

            #145
            Originally posted by nonsense48
            locked as follows:s.a.-3 n.o.+2 utah-4' milw-p- atl-1' orl+4' for a nickle each GOOD LUCK EVERYONE

            yo yo nonsense, verify please
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            • nonsense48
              SBR MVP
              • 12-15-08
              • 2927

              #146
              CK and DEX, thanks for all your help this eve. closing up shop and going to grab some sushi with the little lady. type to ya when i get home.
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              • jaymac82980
                SBR MVP
                • 01-08-09
                • 3416

                #147
                my picks have been placed...so far:

                indy/toronto over 213.5
                no +7/untah -0.5 teaser

                Considering
                Orlando/LA over 214.5
                orlando +4.5

                and I'm waiting til last minute for the bucks line
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                • africanroller
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-30-08
                  • 936

                  #148
                  Locked in:

                  Bucks -2
                  Avs -130
                  Detroit/OKC Over 189

                  Leans on :

                  Wright St
                  T-wolves
                  OKC
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                  • jaymac82980
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-08-09
                    • 3416

                    #149
                    anyone know the deal with lebron tonight?
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                    • cocknocker
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-06-08
                      • 8001

                      #150
                      darkenergy,

                      I guess it's a little late now, but I would say that essentially, the Spurs have to win by two baskets in order for me to get my money, so I would say that 3.5 is the same as 2.5 in a roundabout way.
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                      • Dexter
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-24-08
                        • 25829

                        #151
                        Originally posted by ram1502
                        Yo Dex, I asked this the other day but I don't think I got a very "concrete" answer. In my strictly statistical handicapping system, how many points would you advice taking away from a team on the back end of a back to back or giving to a team with 1 or 2 days rest? Is this a "default" number such as -1 or -2 for a team playing back end of back to back much like you give the home court advantage 3 extra points? Or is it, which is my fear, very subjective for each team based on their performance historically on the back end of a back to back? Any help/insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
                        sorry - i never saw this question. thread is getting bigger and bigger by the day.

                        i dont know of a default number, but i would say its worth 1-2 points (which vegas obviously adjusts for) when a team plays back to back.

                        i dont think the teams historical back to back would be factored in, but i'm really not sure.

                        pm me the details of what your doing - sounds interesting.
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                        • ManBearPig
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-04-08
                          • 2473

                          #152
                          Originally posted by cocknocker
                          nonsense48,

                          The Bucks and the Warriors both had a triple overtme game, with one days rest, yet folks are afraid to fade them in spite of knowing that, just because the board as a whole has gotten too far off into RLM these days. I make my picks a week in advance and that's the long and short end of it.
                          For those who read this and get confused...CK is referring to the triple OT game that SAC ad GSW played not the Bucks. I had to do a double take but I'm sure CK can confirm.
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                          • jaymac82980
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-08-09
                            • 3416

                            #153
                            low scoring 1st for indy/toronto? what is going on.
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                            • peterpan19
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-02-08
                              • 3377

                              #154
                              manbearpig

                              even ck makes a mistake and I thought I would make all the mistakes of the world (bad bad day, broke up with my girl)
                              Lets win some cash, I am so drunk guys, good night (better not place anymore wagers today)

                              see you
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                              • ClockCleaner
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 12-24-08
                                • 99

                                #155
                                Not looking good for the Spurs right now. Philly just went on a 16-2 run. I had a feeling this was going to happen.
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                                • jaymac82980
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-08-09
                                  • 3416

                                  #156
                                  dex, did you get orlando winning the game with you review? I can't figure why orlando is gettting points. I know lakers just lost, but last time they lost, didnt they lose two in a row, coupled with the fact that orlando is on fire
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                                  • rb4033
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 06-14-08
                                    • 866

                                    #157
                                    spurs sucks a lot!
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                                    • SamsNCharge99
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-22-08
                                      • 41242

                                      #158
                                      ok nonsense, so you not responding tells what ur not interested, so I just replaced you, FYI
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                                      • ram1502
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 12-26-08
                                        • 822

                                        #159
                                        pm'ed you DEX
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                                        • Smacksmiter
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-20-08
                                          • 1169

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by ClockCleaner
                                          Not looking good for the Spurs right now. Philly just went on a 16-2 run. I had a feeling this was going to happen.
                                          How da Spurs doing now?
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                                          • johnnyP
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-06-08
                                            • 305

                                            #161
                                            espn is LOVING on Lebron so much it might make you want to take out a 2nd mortgage and bet the house on him tonight! ugh!
                                            They are amazing after a loss but they just looked so dysfunctional last night. Little Red is out and L.James has the flu.

                                            Maybe I should just middle the game.
                                            Take Lebron Cavaliers -2½ -110 for $200 - 181.81
                                            And Hornets +120 Moneyline for $174 - $208.80

                                            Not much of a profit but more fun while watching for sure.

                                            You guys ever do this on games?
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                                            • Sloanie29
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-03-08
                                              • 111

                                              #162
                                              here we go with the spurs again....ruining my night!
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                                              • jaymac82980
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-08-09
                                                • 3416

                                                #163
                                                sloanie, I think lots of people had money on the spurs (not me), so maybe keep the pessimism down to a minimum. If you only took the bet based on someone else's opinion, you may need to rethink your bets. Also, remember, this is the spurs, look for a quarter of the spurs scoring 27 to philly's 8, or something like that. Point being, there is a lot of time left in the game, and anything can happen.
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                                                • cheesehead004
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 12-24-08
                                                  • 715

                                                  #164
                                                  The Spurs really need to establish the tempo for the 2nd half. The 76ers are an anemic half court team, notice how every point comes off a transition. Damn I got a lot riding on the Spurs here I hope they can pull it out.
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                                                  • jaymac82980
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-08-09
                                                    • 3416

                                                    #165
                                                    cheese, you and I have had some success on similar bets, how are you liking the orlando game? Orlando wins and covers the over 214.5?
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                                                    • Dexter
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-24-08
                                                      • 25829

                                                      #166
                                                      dammit - my pc has a virus -

                                                      i may be out of commision for the night until tomorrow night fellas. im def on the hornets tomorrow as well catching the old pistons on their 4th game in 5 nights
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                                                      • ManBearPig
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-04-08
                                                        • 2473

                                                        #167
                                                        Its only the fist half and they are within striking distance. Pop will slow this down and cut off all those fast break points. He's too good of a coach to let them get away with it all game.
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                                                        • cheesehead004
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 12-24-08
                                                          • 715

                                                          #168
                                                          Jaymac I will prooobably put some money on ORL-LAL over, although I am not confident with the spread. I hate the Lakers personally, but I dont ever feel confident betting against them at home. Although, their D is horrible so that will mean a lot of points for Orlando who is hot from 3, and the Lakers arent getting blown out tonight and they will keep up. I expect something like 117-112, the winner can go either way.
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                                                          • africanroller
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-30-08
                                                            • 936

                                                            #169
                                                            SA -3.5 second half anyone
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                                                            • jaymac82980
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-08-09
                                                              • 3416

                                                              #170
                                                              well, like you said, orlando has been hot at 3 point range, which often times can mean who wins the game. the lakers dont play great defense, so how are they going to stop orlando from scoring? They have had trouble closing average teams out (but they seem to manage in the end), but given the trouble with average teams, how can they be expected to cover the spread vs a terrific orlando team that has been hotter than kim kardassian's ass after 6 shots of tequila?
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                                                              • nzwarrior
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-06-08
                                                                • 162

                                                                #171
                                                                Don't worry the spurs will win, They are contolling the game just need to concentrate more slow it down and play d. Any time they want a stop they get one and any time they want to score they do. Just gotta control the tempo now. Popvitch will get them ready for the second half im confident
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                                                                • woodyman
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 12-27-08
                                                                  • 389

                                                                  #172
                                                                  spurs really struggling. They need a run
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                                                                  • johnnyP
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 12-06-08
                                                                    • 305

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Its CLAP TIME

                                                                    Here we GO SPURS Here we GO CLAP CLAP!!!
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                                                                    • jeffbuff73
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 12-06-08
                                                                      • 248

                                                                      #174
                                                                      san antonio is thru........down by 20!
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                                                                      • ANDYW15
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 07-28-08
                                                                        • 1254

                                                                        #175
                                                                        man the NBA is a complete fcukfest to cap these days. Nigh on impossible.
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