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  • Ratzz
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-07-10
    • 8965

    #36
    Originally posted by upscope
    So it's automatic that you beat a team that is 26-3 on their home court if you just say "I'm not afraid of nobody"
    So, if you make a tiger face that means "automatic"

    Then you say "what happened?? What do you mean what happened?? The Lakers lost as a 7 point dog to a team that is 26-3 on their home court & you're asking what happened??

    Kobe said "not if. we will" about making the playoffs, not about beating Denver (26-3 home court).
    but he did not say... "i am not afraid of Portland.. I am not afraid of Dallas.. Phoenix.. etc "

    he specified all teams with good/excellent records.. "i have NO FEAR about that whatsoever" were Wamba's exact words...
    how can you not be afraid of a team that spanks you by double-digits... the line wasn't 'double-digit' it was single-digit

    So against a good team, Kobe delivered even less than Vegas expected.. after publicly stating that he would deliver more.
    that is not consistent with the 'growly Tiger' face (grrr)*that Kobe was exhibiting when the refs were turning
    the game around against an opponent with a losing record.

    are you not telling me everything you know?... if the Lakers DO in fact make the playoffs..
    are they only going to face teams with losing records?

    hmm.. maybe there is some special scheduling arrangement for the playoffs that i don't know about?
    (Lakers only face losing records)
    if there is please let me know, and i will desist.

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    • innovation
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-27-12
      • 6218

      #37
      Lakers have one of the easiest schedules from here on out.

      Honestly I doubt they drop more then 5 games from now on and possibly only 4.

      Biggest game of the year will be thier last game at home against Houston.
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      • Ratzz
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-07-10
        • 8965

        #38
        seriously, Kupchak should lose his job over the Nash trade.

        he traded 4 players for Nash:
        two 1st Rounders, two 2nd Rounders, and pays him $9,000,000 a season

        Steve Nash is 39, signed him until he is 41.

        wow.

        this year's lottery pick goes right to Phoenix

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        • R.P. McMurphy
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-15-12
          • 9654

          #39
          Like Innovation says alot of it has to go with strength of schedule and road vs home games remaining. Anyone of these 3 teams are plenty capable of going on a bad run losing say 4 outta 5 and letting L.A. right in Utah, Houston, GSW. Would not be surprised one bit to see a choker in that bunch get backdoored!
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          • Ratzz
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-07-10
            • 8965

            #40
            Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
            Would not be surprised one bit to see a choker in that bunch get backdoored!
            i think if any body gets in the wahzoo.... *it's the Purple & Fold

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            • R.P. McMurphy
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-15-12
              • 9654

              #41
              To be honest Ratzz I would'nt let your Laker hate consume you so much. Are they capable of beating any team on a given night? = Yes. However even if they do slide in the postseason are they capable of WINNING A SERIES vs a top contender? = NO. This heap of aging, injured, and non-cohesive stars with an average at best H.C. are not going to win anything significant. Doubt Kobe gets another ring unless a miracle happens in L.A. or he jumps on another team down the road.
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              • Ratzz
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                • 07-07-10
                • 8965

                #42
                Originally posted by upscope
                So it's automatic that you beat a team that is 26-3 on their home court if you just say "I'm not afraid of nobody"
                So, if you make a growly-tigah face that means "automatic"

                Kobe said "not if. we will" about making the playoffs, not about beating Denver (26-3 home court).
                are you suggesting that Kobe was entirely unaware of Denver's home record?

                and isn't making the playoffs about beating Denver as well?

                i'm not sure what you mean, i was just hoping to clarify, thnx

                *

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                • StevenSuarez
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-19-12
                  • 675

                  #43
                  Originally posted by innovation
                  Lakers have one of the easiest schedules from here on out.

                  Honestly I doubt they drop more then 5 games from now on and possibly only 4.

                  Biggest game of the year will be thier last game at home against Houston.
                  I don't know about that. I still see a lot of tough games left for them.

                  vs. ATL
                  @ OKC
                  vs. CHI
                  @ ATL
                  @ IND
                  @ GSW
                  vs. MEM
                  @ LAC
                  @ POR
                  vs. SAS
                  vs. HOU
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                  • upscope
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-26-11
                    • 2837

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Ratzz
                    are you suggesting that Kobe was entirely unaware of Denver's home record?

                    and isn't making the playoffs about beating Denver as well?

                    i'm not sure what you mean, i was just hoping to clarify, thnx

                    *
                    What r u babbling about?? Are you suggesting that if a player says he doesn't fear a particular team then they will automatically win for some reason?? Denver happens to be a good team as their current seeding proves along w/ their 26-3 home court record. Lakers were in a tough spot on a b2b vs one of the better home court teams in the league. Kobe played just fine. You're making no sense w/ this weak s#it

                    Making the playoffs is actually about having one of the best eight records in a particular conference when the season is completed. It's not about winning one particular regular season game vs one of the top 3 home court teams in the league after playing a grueling game the day before. I think you think you are making a silly point but in reality you have people here befuddled by your continued ignorance.

                    Are u saying that if a player states he's not afraid of another team then his team then automatically wins?
                    I don't understand the point you are making with this latest show of incompetence?

                    Kobe Bryant's every move has you mesmerized. You are consumed by Kobe Bryant. You spend your whole day following Kobe Bryant & his actions.
                    When he loses you say "what happened, hahaha"
                    When he wins you say "the refs cheated. It was rigged, blah blah blah"

                    Honestly, do u even have the slieghtest idea how incompetent & how much of an amateur that makes you sound??
                    Seriously, for the 1000th time, how old are you?? Zero % chance you are over the age of 23. Go get laid or drunk or something instead of having your life consumed by Kobe Bryant. It's not healthy.
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                    • innovation
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-27-12
                      • 6218

                      #45
                      [QUOTE=StevenSuarez;17930786]I don't know about that. I still see a lot of tough games left for them.

                      vs. ATL Win
                      @ OKC Loss
                      vs. CHI Win
                      @ ATL They split these next two. I know Atl is a b2b but they get Orl night before.
                      @ IND split
                      @ GSW ***
                      vs. MEM I say they split MEM and LAC. Are the Clippers really going to sweep them?
                      @ LAC split
                      @ POR ***
                      vs. SAS Pop said he would rest players if they clinch (fine looming or not) win


                      They need to win either at GSW or PORT. Split is fair.

                      That's 4 losses and 5 if you give them one more loss.

                      vs. HOU This game is huge for seeding. Both Teams will be hoovering around the 46-35 mark.


                      Utah is going to finish around 45-37 imo...

                      That's how I see it.
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                      • Ratzz
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-07-10
                        • 8965

                        #46
                        Originally posted by upscope
                        *Are u saying that if a player states he's not afraid of another team then his team then automatically wins?
                        I don't understand the point you are making with this latest show of incompetence?
                        but then why did Kobe get all make a growly-tigah face vs. little Portland.. then no more growly with the tuff Nuggets..?!

                        if you make a tuff guarantee, then you have to beat a tuff team.
                        if you don't then it's wuss-baggy

                        are you saying that Kobe is wussbaggy?.. that's a pretty big statement coming from a Laker fan

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                        • Ratzz
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                          • 07-07-10
                          • 8965

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Ratzz
                          *if you make a tuff guarantee, then you have to beat a tuff team.
                          i mean, that's pretty clear, right?

                          if you can't beat a tuff team, why talk big-tuff when you're in front of the camera, and then not in the game?

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                          • upscope
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-26-11
                            • 2837

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Ratzz
                            but then why did Kobe get all make a growly-tigah face vs. little Portland.. then no more growly with the tuff Nuggets..?!

                            if you make a tuff guarantee, then you have to beat a tuff team.
                            if you don't then it's wuss-baggy

                            are you saying that Kobe is wussbaggy?.. that's a pretty big statement coming from a Laker fan
                            huh?? So you can only make a "growly tiger face" if you know for sure what you r going to win the next game??
                            Should LeBron only throw chalk in the air if he's going to win the game after he throws the chalk

                            I'm pretty confident even your fellow Laker haters are scratching their head & laughing @ you right about now.
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                            • Seto
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-16-11
                              • 12906

                              #49
                              Originally posted by upscope
                              This is basic basketball that you & Rat don't understand. After Dirk didn't get the call he flailed his arms @ the ref in disgust. That is an automatic technical 100% of the time. It doesn't matter what team or what player. Mayo's was even worse. He went off like a child & that will be called a T 100% of the time. A tantrum & yelling @ the ref while flailing your arms is a T wether it were two seconds or ten.
                              It's downright comical how every single Laker win is followed by excuses while every single loss is followed by "how can Kobe not lead them to victory."
                              The Mavs didn't lose because of Stern they lost because Kobe pissed on them in the 4th & nailed every shot. Yet, right on que here come the haters looking for excuses. I have not seen a Laker win this yr that according to the haters should have been a loss because of "whatever excuse they can think of"
                              You guys are still scared to death of the Lakers. If you weren't you wouldn't be on the edge of your seat every time they play sweating out every call & every game w/ two months to play in the season.
                              I swear I believe some of you guys would sell your children to human traffickers in return for the Lakers losing a reg season game.....how pathetic.
                              Wow. Chill bro. I and many others think those t's were harsh and they especially followed 2 bad calls (artest foul on dirk was obvious). Maybe im partly saying that cause im a fan, who knows. would you not have been pissed off after that game as a fan regardless of whether those calls changed the outcome of the game or not? And when did i ever question kobe's greatness and that he was the main reason they won? I on the contrary have disagreed with many of ratzz's posts about kobe and the lakers in general.
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                              • upscope
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-26-11
                                • 2837

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Ratzz
                                i mean, that's pretty clear, right?

                                if you can't beat a tuff team, why talk big-tuff when you're in front of the camera, and then not in the game?
                                Most everybody can agree that Kobe actually did play pretty tough.....12-23 for 29 points 6 rebounds & 9 assists
                                Would you have felt better if Kobe would have stated "No, I am not afraid of Denver but I'm pretty sure Dwight is"?
                                That way you could put the blame on the guy that went 2-14 from the line rather than the guy that went 12-23 from the field w/ 9 assist & 6 rebounds.
                                If the Lakers win, it's the officials fault.
                                If the Lakers lose it's Kobe fault.....not for playing bad but but for.......get this......"making a tiger face" <---------WTF
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                                • Ratzz
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-07-10
                                  • 8965

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Seto
                                  Wow. Chill bro. I and many others think those t's were harsh and they especially followed 2 bad calls (artest foul on dirk was obvious). Maybe im partly saying that cause im a fan, who knows. would you not have been pissed off after that game as a fan regardless of whether those calls changed the outcome of the game or not? And when did i ever question kobe's greatness and that he was the main reason they won? I on the contrary have disagreed with many of ratzz's posts about kobe and the lakers in general.
                                  the Artest foul .. non-call on Dirk was obvious.. "keep Lakers alive".. then to "T" Dirk for a complaint..

                                  it's is self-evident that the league is interested in Laker drama, because it RAKES in advertising money..

                                  this thread is evidence of that. People are impassioned on both sides..

                                  that Dallas win was greased. Mavs were well on way to winning.*
                                  Dirk sinks both FTs, and mavs are up 5 with a few minutes to go,
                                  and feeling good.

                                  Mavs have 10% the number of fans that the Lakers do, thus generate much less interest and money.
                                  Stern basic job is to make more money for the league.

                                  he did that.*

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                                  • upscope
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-26-11
                                    • 2837

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Seto
                                    Wow. Chill bro. I and many others think those t's were harsh and they especially followed 2 bad calls (artest foul on dirk was obvious). Maybe im partly saying that cause im a fan, who knows. would you not have been pissed off after that game as a fan regardless of whether those calls changed the outcome of the game or not? And when did i ever question kobe's greatness and that he was the main reason they won? I on the contrary have disagreed with many of ratzz's posts about kobe and the lakers in general.
                                    I realize u have been rational with your views. Yes Dirk was fouled but whether you're fouled or not it is a T 100% of the time regardless of who it is that flails their arms while yelling @ & showing UP an official. Both of those T's were warranted. Just because the officials missed a call doesn't mean you are therefore allowed to do something that gets you a T 100% of the time.
                                    The Mavs didn't lose that game because of the officials they lost because Dirk & Mayo couldn't keep their cool & be professionals in a tight spot.
                                    For the record the Mayo call wasn't bad. There was contact. That get's called 90% of the time.
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                                    • Seto
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-16-11
                                      • 12906

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by upscope
                                      I realize u have been rational with your views. Yes Dirk was fouled but whether you're fouled or not it is a T 100% of the time regardless of who it is that flails their arms while yelling @ & showing UP an official. Both of those T's were warranted. Just because the officials missed a call doesn't mean you are therefore allowed to do something that gets you a T 100% of the time.
                                      The Mavs didn't lose that game because of the officials they lost because Dirk & Mayo couldn't keep their cool & be professionals in a tight spot.
                                      For the record the Mayo call wasn't bad. There was contact. That get's called 90% of the time.
                                      Yeah I expected that to get called really (the mayo one). It wasnt blatant but as u say that always gets called. Fans are always looking for a reason to whine anyway

                                      Anyway that game is done. And ftr the lakers are better than the mavs. I just hope we somehow squeak in. The jazz stink and the rockets could melt down. Who knows
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                                      • upscope
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-26-11
                                        • 2837

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Ratzz
                                        the Artest foul .. non-call on Dirk was obvious.. "keep Lakers alive".. then to "T" Dirk for a complaint..

                                        it's is self-evident that the league is interested in Laker drama, because it RAKES in advertising money..

                                        this thread is evidence of that. People are impassioned on both sides..

                                        that Dallas win was greased. Mavs were well on way to winning.*
                                        Dirk sinks both FTs, and mavs are up 5 with a few minutes to go,
                                        and feeling good.

                                        Mavs have 10% the number of fans that the Lakers do, thus generate much less interest and money.
                                        Stern basic job is to make more money for the league.

                                        he did that.*
                                        Do you understand the difference between "a few minutes" & SIX MINUTES?? There was still six minutes to play. The game isn't over @ that point. And the Lakers were leading w/ 3 minutes to play when Mayo was T'ed UP.
                                        You have such a short memory. Earlier in the game Kobe got a technical for THE SAME EXACT THING THAT DIRK & MAYO DID. Why was it not fixed when Kobe got a T for flailing his arms & yelling @ the official?? Why aren't Laker fans complaining @ that T FOR THE SAME EXACT THING?? The reason is simple, because it's not rigged. It is a technical 100% of the time when you flail your arms @ the official. Doesn't matter what team does it, doesn't matter what player does it, doesn't matter why they do it, doesn't matter when it occurs in the game. It is a technical, period.

                                        The difference between you & me is simple. When Kobe did it I shook my head & said to myself 'that was stupid' before the official even blew the whistle. When Dirk did it I shook my head & said to myself 'that was stupid' before the official even blew his whistle. When Mayo did it I shook my head & said 'that was stupid' before the official even blew his whistle. The reason.....It's a technical 100% of the time.
                                        When Kobe did it, you on the other hand, likely screamed @ the TV, "THAT'S A TECHNICAL"....When Dirk did it, you likely screamed @ the TV, "THAT"S NOT A TECHNICAL. THE REFS ARE CHEATING FOR THE LAKERS"....When Mayo did it you likely screamed @ the TV, "THAT"S NOT A TECHNICAL. THE REFS ARE CHEATING FOR THE LAKERS"

                                        This is what decades of dominance does to haters. Turns them into irrational conspiracy theorist.
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                                        • Ratzz
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-07-10
                                          • 8965

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by upscope
                                          I realize u have been rational with your views. Yes Dirk was fouled but whether you're fouled or not it is a T 100% of the time regardless of who it is that flails their arms while yelling @ & showing UP an official. Both of those T's were warranted. Just because the officials missed a call doesn't mean you are therefore allowed to do something that gets you a T 100% of the time.
                                          The Mavs didn't lose that game because of the officials they lost because Dirk & Mayo couldn't keep their cool & be professionals in a tight spot.
                                          For the record the Mayo call wasn't bad. There was contact. That get's called 90% of the time.
                                          look. the NBA helps out their big money makers... the lakers are the BIGGEST money in the NBA because of the population base in the immediate surrounding areas of LA..
                                          that base is approximately 20 Million people.*

                                          if that amount of people tune out because the Lakers have been eliminated from contention *then the NBA and the networks lose boats of money. One could see the refs working the Portland, and most clearly the Dallas game.

                                          THOSE technicals (the one on Dirk) was called THE INSTANT it appeared to get out of hand for the Lakers, earlier in the game when a non-fould was called and Kobe got 3 shots for nothing.

                                          League is working their magic to keep revenue up.

                                          The Mavs won that game fair and square, and then the league stepped in and chose money over performance. You can't really argue this point, Upscope. Too many people saw the same footage, and too many neutral people agree that the 'W' was greased against Dallas.


                                          *

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                                          • riffraff24
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-20-11
                                            • 7234

                                            #56
                                            Ratzz...Do you have Lakers panties on?
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                                            • Ratzz
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-07-10
                                              • 8965

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by upscope
                                              You have such a short memory. Earlier in the game Kobe got a technical for THE SAME EXACT THING THAT DIRK & MAYO DID. Why was it not fixed when Kobe got a T for flailing his arms & yelling @ the official?? Why aren't Laker fans complaining @ that T FOR THE SAME EXACT THING?? The reason is simple, because it's not rigged. It is a technical 100% of the time when you flail your arms @ the official. Doesn't matter what team does it, doesn't matter what player does it, doesn't matter why they do it, doesn't matter when it occurs in the game. It is a technical, period.

                                              This is what decades of dominance does to haters. Turns them into irrational conspiracy theorist.
                                              A) Kobe is LEADING the league in technicals..(14 techs) *he has way of venting to officials.. his face says "you idiot"... Dirk has NEVER led the league in technicals.. his face says "didn't you see that?!

                                              B) it's not really dominance. It's abundance of money. due to overwhelming population disparity.

                                              "Dominance" is superiority.
                                              "greater wealth" is a matter of being more fortunate*

                                              it's very different.*

                                              the Thunder are superior because they have a top team with a far lower payroll than the Lakers.

                                              if you accomplish MORE with LESS tools, you are greater..(OKC)
                                              if you accomplish LESS with MORE tools, you are lesser (Lakers)*

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                                              • riffraff24
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 04-20-11
                                                • 7234

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Ratzz
                                                if you accomplish MORE with LESS tools, you are greater..(OKC)
                                                if you accomplish LESS with MORE tools, you are lesser (Lakers)*
                                                if you talk about a team 24/7, you must love them (Lakers)
                                                If you dont make a new thread about a team everyday you must hate them (OKC)
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                                                • Ratzz
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-07-10
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by upscope
                                                  *This is what decades of dominance does to haters. Turns them into irrational conspiracy theorist.
                                                  Bottom Line:

                                                  if Kobe was really that good.. and guaranteed that they would beat the Nuggets...

                                                  how could the Lakers lose by double-digits to the Nuggets?

                                                  ... WHERE was the Wamba?

                                                  (just trying to figure it out. thnx)

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                                                  • upscope
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-26-11
                                                    • 2837

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Ratzz
                                                    Bottom Line:

                                                    if Kobe was really that good.. and guaranteed that they would beat the Nuggets...

                                                    how could the Lakers lose by double-digits to the Nuggets?

                                                    ... WHERE was the Wamba?

                                                    (just trying to figure it out. thnx)
                                                    He didnt guarantee they were going to beat the nuggets....what is the matter w/u where....or better yet why are you pulling silly stuff out of nowhere.
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                                                    • Ratzz
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-07-10
                                                      • 8965

                                                      #61
                                                      hey, Upscope..

                                                      i wanted to ask your opinion:*

                                                      How long before Mike Kupchak is relieved of his duties (fired)?

                                                      he really has made a terrible mess of things the last two seasons..
                                                      from*

                                                      • from*failing to convince Ramon sessions to stay..
                                                      • betraying Odom (6th Man Winner)*
                                                      • the Mike Brown fiasco... (no LBJ, Brown sucks)
                                                      • to the current D'Antoni farce..
                                                      • Kobe's $30M extensions... overpriced
                                                      • the STEVE NASH debacle... 4 high draft picks and $27M
                                                      • bringing in Dwight Howard in (against his will)
                                                      • then NOT trading him (losing him for nothing after he leaves) another 1st rounder

                                                      helloo-o-o-o-o...

                                                      the best GM in the NBA right now is Presti from OKC..
                                                      turns Jacks into Aces...

                                                      while Kupchak folds on four aces

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                                                      • Ratzz
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-07-10
                                                        • 8965

                                                        #62
                                                        i guess when Howard leaves Lakers high/dry... Kupchak will be fired...

                                                        man, he screwed the Lakers for half a decade at least. i think 5-7 years*

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                                                        • upscope
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-26-11
                                                          • 2837

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Ratzz
                                                          A) Kobe is LEADING the league in technicals..(14 techs) *he has way of venting to officials.. his face says "you idiot"... Dirk has NEVER led the league in technicals.. his face says "didn't you see that?!

                                                          B) it's not really dominance. It's abundance of money. due to overwhelming population disparity.

                                                          "Dominance" is superiority.
                                                          "greater wealth" is a matter of being more fortunate*

                                                          it's very different.*

                                                          the Thunder are superior because they have a top team with a far lower payroll than the Lakers.

                                                          if you accomplish MORE with LESS tools, you are greater..(OKC)
                                                          if you accomplish LESS with MORE tools, you are lesser (Lakers)*
                                                          (A) Do you have any idea how bad u r making yourself look??
                                                          You r now saying that Kobe deserved a technical because "the look" in his face according to you said "you idiot"
                                                          But, Dirk didn't deserve a technical because "the look" in his face according to you said "didn't you see that"


                                                          How old r u seriously?? Get this through your amateur head.....Dirk, Mayo & Kobe.... ALL THREE OF THEM....did not receive technicals for some look on their face that you say represented something that actually just fits your agenda. They ALL THREE received technicals because they flailed their arms in disgust @ an official. That is the rule in the NBA. You cannot do that. It was not rigged for $$. It is a rule that exist in the NBA & gets called 100% of the time no matter the player, team or situation.
                                                          For most this is a simple basic fundamental concept. I understand for you, being an amateur, that this is actually very difficult to grasp & fully understand. But maybe if you re-read it multiple times slowly & think about it you might begin to understand it. Give it a shot.

                                                          (B) You can twist it around anyway you like to fit your agenda but facts are facts....10 Championships & 16 visits to the Finals over the last 33 seasons is not only dominance, it is the definition of dominance. Now think about & wipe the tears from your eyes.

                                                          Dominance & greatness are defined by championships not payroll. Keep diggin' for criteria that makes no sense whatsoever when trying to define dominance. As long as it satisfies you & helps heal the wounds & countless sleepless nights the Lakers have caused you that's fine~
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                                                          • upscope
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-26-11
                                                            • 2837

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Ratzz
                                                            hey, Upscope..

                                                            i wanted to ask your opinion:*

                                                            How long before Mike Kupchak is relieved of his duties (fired)?

                                                            he really has made a terrible mess of things the last two seasons..
                                                            from*

                                                            • from*failing to convince Ramon sessions to stay..
                                                            • betraying Odom (6th Man Winner)*
                                                            • the Mike Brown fiasco... (no LBJ, Brown sucks)
                                                            • to the current D'Antoni farce..
                                                            • Kobe's $30M extensions... overpriced
                                                            • the STEVE NASH debacle... 4 high draft picks and $27M
                                                            • bringing in Dwight Howard in (against his will)
                                                            • then NOT trading him (losing him for nothing after he leaves) another 1st rounder

                                                            helloo-o-o-o-o...

                                                            the best GM in the NBA right now is Presti from OKC..
                                                            turns Jacks into Aces...

                                                            while Kupchak folds on four aces
                                                            Who is "Mike Kupchak?? Thanx for yet again showing further ignorance & incompetence

                                                            Let me ask you a question. If Presti from OKC wins 5 championships & makes 7 visits to the Finals over the next 13 yrs. then things begin to go south do you think it would be a failure??
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                                                            • Ratzz
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 07-07-10
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                                                              #65
                                                              if the Lakers were really dominant, and Wamba was really 'lights out' for other teams...
                                                              as he says he is

                                                              then the Lakers would not only make the playoffs, they would go to the Finals.

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                                                              • upscope
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-26-11
                                                                • 2837

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Ratzz
                                                                hey, Upscope..

                                                                i wanted to ask your opinion:*

                                                                How long before Mike Kupchak is relieved of his duties (fired)?

                                                                he really has made a terrible mess of things the last two seasons..
                                                                from*

                                                                • from*failing to convince Ramon sessions to stay..
                                                                • betraying Odom (6th Man Winner)*
                                                                • the Mike Brown fiasco... (no LBJ, Brown sucks)
                                                                • to the current D'Antoni farce..
                                                                • Kobe's $30M extensions... overpriced
                                                                • the STEVE NASH debacle... 4 high draft picks and $27M
                                                                • bringing in Dwight Howard in (against his will)
                                                                • then NOT trading him (losing him for nothing after he leaves) another 1st rounder

                                                                helloo-o-o-o-o...

                                                                the best GM in the NBA right now is Presti from OKC..
                                                                turns Jacks into Aces...

                                                                while Kupchak folds on four aces
                                                                Love the way u twist this around to fit your personal agenda.

                                                                1) Failing to convince R. Sessions to stay??
                                                                You don't honestly think R. Sessions is the answer do you?? You think Sessions is a better fit than Nash??

                                                                2) Betraying Odom
                                                                Odom went from 6th man of the yr to D-League in less than one yr. That was perfect timing in letting go a fading talent & opening UP needed cap space.

                                                                3) M. Brown - he does sukk

                                                                4) D'Antoni - Terrible hire & biggest reason for struggles.

                                                                5) Kobe's extension - Take a few moments to think about the business aspect of basketball. Being a 10-5 w/ Bird Rights only a little more than half of that counts against the cap. Lakers can pay him any amount they choose & only a fixed amout (whatever a max contract for 10+ yrs service is these days counts against cap). That means the xtra 10-12m is actually a bargain considering how much revenue Kobe generates for Laker nation. My guess would be 10x's that. When your a legend & you have been the face of a championship franchise for 16+ seasons you get rewarded. It's the M. Jordan treatment.

                                                                6) Steve Nash debacle
                                                                Don't know what you have against Nash but along w/ Kobe they have been the only two steady performers. Lakers don't build through the draft you should know that by now. They have crushed your heart reloading more times than you can count. When will you learn this??

                                                                7) Dwight is a puzzy but you can try to twist it anyway u like to fit your agenda but it wasn't against his will. He agreed to the trade & LA was one of only two places he would have accepted. This is well publicized so keep twisting & sounding even more clueless than everybody here already thinks.

                                                                8) Not trading him. The idea is to resign him & if they don't here's the part you continue to fail to realize. The Lakers just use his max contract to sign the next guy. haven't you learned your lesson through the yrs w/ this concept.

                                                                FIVE championships in the last 13 years. Not a single team in the league wouldn't take that, including Presti. Are you suggesting this run was a failure?? Every member of this forum knows you are clueless & just trolling but honestly u can't be that clueless to honestly believe that can you??
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                                                                • upscope
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-26-11
                                                                  • 2837

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Ratzz
                                                                  if the Lakers were really dominant, and Wamba was really 'lights out' for other teams...
                                                                  as he says he is

                                                                  then the Lakers would not only make the playoffs, they would go to the Finals.
                                                                  You mean like they have 7 of the last 13 years?? You must have scars under your eyes from all the tears they caused you.
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                                                                  • R.P. McMurphy
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-15-12
                                                                    • 9654

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Ratzz u should be smart enough to know by now that of course Kobe will say that it's typical. What athlete ecs one with his ego does'nt have a hard time knowing his own limits? Father time catches up with everyone tho! Seriously I'm not a Laker defender but this is getting obnoxious in here with these L.A. threads.
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                                                                    • Ratzz
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-07-10
                                                                      • 8965

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                                      Ratzz u should be smart enough to know by now that of course Kobe will say that it's typical. What athlete ecs one with his ego does'nt have a hard time knowing his own limits? Father time catches up with everyone tho! Seriously I'm not a Laker defender but this is getting obnoxious in here with these L.A. threads.

                                                                      'hmmm.. does the option 'not' to click on this thread exist?

                                                                      are you on a PC or a Mac..?

                                                                      i would check the manual that shipped with your computer..
                                                                      sorry not sure how to advise on this

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                                                                      • Ratzz
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 07-07-10
                                                                        • 8965

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                                        Ratzz u should be smart enough to know by now that of course Kobe will say that it's typical. What athlete ecs one with his ego does'nt have a hard time knowing his own limits? Father time catches up with everyone tho! Seriously I'm not a Laker defender but this is getting obnoxious in here with these L.A. threads.
                                                                        just kiddin' bud.*you're a smooth cat *

                                                                        cheers

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