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  • cocknocker
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    • 11-06-08
    • 8001

    #1
    Leans for Sunday 11/30/08
    Okay here's the skinny: I already like Phoenix-whatever. the Nets are on the last road game of a long road trip and pulled off the upset of Utah last night, I have to fade them. Especially when Amare is grumbling about being the focal point of the team on offense. It's a no-brainer. He will go off auditioning his new role and the Suns will run the tired Nets intothe pavement. I project the line to be Phoenix-7

    Portland is catching the Pistons lunching and dealing with inner turmoil with the Iverson practice ordeal. Their youth will make the Pistons work harder than they want to. Throw in that this is an out of conference game, and you have the makings of a backdoor cover, as I feel that Detroit will jump out to a quick start, but the resiliency of the Blazers will carry them through the fast start, and cash the ticket.

    The Lakers are getting the biggest spreads in the entire free world, and I am sorry, but I am going to have to try out the Raptors catching 12.5, especailly after they didn't cover not one game on their last homestand. Maybe a roadie is going to help them get out of the covering funk that they have been in. I know how this works from watching the model of the Patriots last year. Once they covered the 1st 8 games, the linesmaker made it so hard to take tham that you needed balls the size of Texas to take them -21 points and so on. This spread is just entirely too high for a Raptors team that is a deep team with a good bench. I'll take my chances with the points.

    Phoenix-7 (projected)
    Portland +4 (or more)
    Toronto+12.5 (if it is still at this number I will take it to 13)
  • jamesrg
    SBR High Roller
    • 06-23-08
    • 174

    #2
    Love the Suns Tomorrow night
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    • BigMoneyMan
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-14-08
      • 925

      #3
      OK even though this has been a great week and I can't complain but I will because I expect to win EVERY TIME. So today sucked and I tell you why. I got nowhere and spent way to much time doing it. Even the big dogs that have been in the game for awhile make mistakes of getting greedy and playing to many games. I have been berated many times by Ck for this and he's right. I will be back to the NBA conservative winning picks tomorrow. I may be on one or two NFL picks but I would defer that to Ck.
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      • cocknocker
        Restricted User
        • 11-06-08
        • 8001

        #4
        Here's my NFL plays tomorrow for those who like the gridiron

        Tampa Bay-4.5
        Browns+5
        Chargers-4.5
        Pats-1
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        • jamesrg
          SBR High Roller
          • 06-23-08
          • 174

          #5
          LOL I started a thread on the NFL page (this site) about the Chargers being the sleeper pick tomorrow

          The other game i really like is the Ravens -7 to pound the Bengals.
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          • vassman86
            SBR MVP
            • 03-11-08
            • 1042

            #6
            Liking the Suns and Blazers, those are solid picks. I wouldn't be surprised if Portland pulls off the upset victory
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            • chipper8888
              SBR Hustler
              • 11-19-08
              • 71

              #7
              I feel uneasy about the Blazers @ Detroit but I will bow to youre better judgement on that one CK
              As for the Raptors though- No O'Neil, No play for me - and im a Raptors fan, Bosh just cant keep doing it on his own
              As usual Good luck boys
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              • maddogmadden86
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-08-08
                • 898

                #8
                love the two plays phoenix and trail blazers especially the blazers i was hoping you would be on it as well with me glad to see it, lets do WOrk Tonight SOn!
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                • maddogmadden86
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-08-08
                  • 898

                  #9
                  CK what do you think about buffalo the whole west coast east coast play is in, along with the fact that the 49ers have no defense or secondary i see a big game for Evans and the fugliest player in the Nfl marshawn lynch what do you think?
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                  • cocknocker
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-06-08
                    • 8001

                    #10
                    The number for the Suns is actually -8.5, which means that it will be a blowout as it is higher than the usual spread for them against the Nets. The Nets are in a bad spot to get the cover. Although it is not a bonafide play The PC Boys are all over this one cash in hand!
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                    • cocknocker
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-06-08
                      • 8001

                      #11
                      maddog,

                      Strange but true, I went to high school with Marshawn Lynch's mother AND father at Oakland Technical.

                      This is the same school that has produced Clint Eastwood, Leon Powe, Rickey Henderson, Dawn of En Vogue, et al. Whatever....

                      Back to the question. The Niners are giving maximal effort these days. My advice is to check the weather. If it is snowing, pound the Bills, as the Niners don't play in those types of conditions. If the weather is clear, you may be sitting on the edge of your seat at the end of this one
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                      • cocknocker
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-06-08
                        • 8001

                        #12
                        I got the Blazers last night and I am playing it at +4.5 by adding the hook
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                        • maddogmadden86
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-08-08
                          • 898

                          #13
                          totally agree CK didnt mean to through any negativitiy to mr and mrs lynch
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                          • pronk
                            Restricted User
                            • 11-22-08
                            • 6887

                            #14
                            2 strong plays:

                            Gonzaga pk

                            Wake Forest +2.5

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                            • wangichu
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-07-08
                              • 946

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pronk
                              2 strong plays:

                              Gonzaga pk

                              Wake Forest +2.5

                              hell ya... keep em coming pronk... i hit that RI -1, and MICH ST -6 so at the least i owe you this money... might as well reinvest it.
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                              • pronk
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-22-08
                                • 6887

                                #16
                                Wangichu, 1 more play and i love it: New Mexico St ML +120.

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                                • cocknocker
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-06-08
                                  • 8001

                                  #17
                                  Man I hate Jon Gruden right now. His ass had the ball at the 17 with a turnover, then he latshis team run three useless plays and kick a field goal instead of going for a touchdown. The they get the ball bck with another interception and then sit on the ball to end the game. I am sick to my stomach off of that loss. It was like as if his play calling snatched ats defeat out of the jaws of victory. I absolutely hate his ass right now. everytingwas there fr the win and it didn't happen. i am sure that I made teh correct call on that one, but bad coaching cost me the payday. So I split on the 1st two games. Cleveland cashed the ticket in game 1. Loss on game two with the Bucs. I now have the Chargers-6.5 and the Patriots-2.

                                  Portland is looking good for us right now, but it is still early. The lead 50-42 at the half, so we'll see how it turns out. I have them at 4.5
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                                  • 2qwik
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 11-12-08
                                    • 61

                                    #18
                                    I went in on Portland +4.5 as well CK. I doubled what I put down for Blazers and put it on the suns but I got it at -9. Nash was out last game but hopefully he gets back. Amare has not been producing the way he should but I think today he will be hungry along with all the suns after that pounding from the Miami Heat.
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                                    • cocknocker
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 11-06-08
                                      • 8001

                                      #19
                                      Gotcha, pronk. I played all of them just as prescribed. Good luck to us. All that we need is for God and our resident Yoda, jalein to put a blessing on them for us!
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                                      • cocknocker
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-06-08
                                        • 8001

                                        #20
                                        2qwik,

                                        You are correct. Tthe Suns will blast them away tonight, as usual. The are 5-0 straight up at home against the Nets and 3-1-1 ats. It's coming TONIGHT! Watch what Amare does tonight.
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                                        • BigMoneyMan
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 11-14-08
                                          • 925

                                          #21
                                          Well after the Tampa loss I put my money and my trust in Ck and pulled the trigger. I laid 2 each on San Diego and NE. No way he goes 0-3 so the worst case is 1-1 and hopefully a BIG payday. I will be back with the NBA picks
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                                          • IrwinFletcher
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 11-10-08
                                            • 96

                                            #22
                                            Dude.. I hear ya about Gruden.. You'd think I'd learn my lesson by now. Funny thing is.. I went into this play knowing they'd be down at the half, as usual, but didn't bother playing the Saints in the first half and coming back to the fuccaneers in the second..
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                                            • IrwinFletcher
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 11-10-08
                                              • 96

                                              #23
                                              * Nash says he wants to play but it's a game day decision again.. Be careful if he's a scratch... I know my suns and they suck without him.
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                                              • BigMoneyMan
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-14-08
                                                • 925

                                                #24
                                                My plays are NJ and Toronto first half. Thats it. I really can't take a absolutely horrible Phoenix team. And can't go against LA they are beasts and will win it all. GL ALL
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                                                • cocknocker
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-06-08
                                                  • 8001

                                                  #25
                                                  IrwinFletcher,

                                                  Nash playing is of no consequence when the ball is fed to Amare as it will be in this game. Terry Porter is going to find out the hard way that he needs to stop running plays through Shaq, and start running his entire offense through Amare. Grant Hill should be traded, he is of no value. But Nash (when he comes back) Barbosa and Bell will benfit more from running the offense through Amare with WIDE open jumpers. I wouldn't be surprised if Amare's assist numbers go up and Nash's go down, but Nash's scoring will go up too. At any rate, this is a horrible position for the Nets to be in.
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                                                  • cocknocker
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                    • 8001

                                                    #26
                                                    The smoke is clear gentlemen, you can go to the counter and collect your cash for Portland now.
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                                                    • cocknocker
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 11-06-08
                                                      • 8001

                                                      #27
                                                      I am starting to like the under in Denver and Houston tonight also. This version of the Nuggets takes care of the ball and plays defense too. Houston's offensive production will go down in this game too. As far as the late NFL game is concerned, my homework points to taking the Bears. Minny is 0-4 ats after a straight up win, Chicago is 3-2-1 ats on the road, one of them the last second job against Atlanta. With this being the second consecutive road game for the Bears I think that they will get the job done. i actually think the Bears are better than the Vikes anyway.

                                                      Bears+3.5
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                                                      • IrwinFletcher
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 11-10-08
                                                        • 96

                                                        #28
                                                        yo.. appreciate the reply but your reasoning for the Suns play is simply a fade of the Nets?.. Please elaborate.

                                                        As an avid Suns fan, it is apparent that this team is having issues with the new system especially when Nash is off the floor (see 10 turnovers in the first quarter), they just stand around playing one on one basketball. Amare seems to be non-existent and I certainly hope he brings his "A" game tonight, cause we're gonna need it... But you can see his discomfort with this system when he just stands on the high block waiting for something to happen.. If Nash is a go, then this might be a play but no Nash no way.

                                                        Good Luck regardless..
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                                                        • africanroller
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-30-08
                                                          • 936

                                                          #29
                                                          The Bears may be missing 4 starting Defensive players tonight with Vasher on his way to IR. Orton still isnt healthy and they will be relying on Matt Forte all night against the Vikes D. You need to check the inactives before game time but Ole Gus lit them up for 298 and 2 when their D was healthy.
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                                                          • IrwinFletcher
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 11-10-08
                                                            • 96

                                                            #30
                                                            As far as the Minny/Chi game.. this is Chicago's third consecutive road game and going back to last year Minny is 0-7 ATS after a straight up win.

                                                            Some more trends to consider..
                                                            • Under is 7-0 in Bears last 7 road games.
                                                            • Under is 5-1 in Bears last 6 games following a S.U. win.
                                                            • Under is 4-1 in Bears last 5 games in Week 13.
                                                            • Under is 4-1 in Bears last 5 games following a ATS win.
                                                            • Under is 11-1 in Vikings last 12 games following a SU win of more than 14 points.
                                                            • Over is 5-1 in Vikings last 6 games in November.
                                                            • Over is 4-1 in Vikings last 5 games overall.
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                                                            • IrwinFletcher
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 11-10-08
                                                              • 96

                                                              #31
                                                              On another note... anyone like the total in LA/TOR?
                                                              While both sides have scored over 105 in their last 5, the only other time the total has been set this high in a Toronto game was vs. the Warriors at home (207)...

                                                              Thoughts?
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                                                              • LUNT101
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 03-12-07
                                                                • 919

                                                                #32
                                                                CK, do you like Toronto with Jermaine O'Neal out? He's listed as Questionable on CBS Sportsline injury report and not listed in the starting lineup on the Toronto Star website.

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                                                                • cocknocker
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 11-06-08
                                                                  • 8001

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Well, the Bears are at +4.5 now, so i am going to roll with it. I have placed my last wager on the Chargers. Their running game is gone now, and Ladanian has gotten old right before our eyes. As far as the patriots are concerned, turnovers is exactly why they lost this game. Can't turn the ball over against the Steelers and expect to win
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                                                                  • cocknocker
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                                    • 8001

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Lunt, yes i do. I am still on the Raptors even with him out
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                                                                    • cocknocker
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 11-06-08
                                                                      • 8001

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I also am liking the under with Houston and Denver as well, too and I am playing it!
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