NASCAR Weekly Picks Game - Watkins Glen

[onlooker]

flew out to st. louis to attend a cousin's wedding

too many weddings to attend. A few months ago a different cousin got married in LA.

Would've rather stayed home and gambled. All this travel creates complications.

On the flight now, paying for gogo in-flight Internet.

Well congrats to your cousins, I hope it works out for them. Even though I'm not a big marriage person, been divorce for 3+ years.

[Optional]

Divorce is great Looker. I did it 10 years ago. Had a much betetr relationship with my kids because of it. (plus we can do what the hell we want finally)

Want to hear something really weird though?

Got back together with her earlier this year. (I guess the warning pain diminished too much)

And also weird... she's interested to hear about how my sports gambling is going. Doesn't even seem to frown on it slightly. Think I'm falling in love again. LOL

[yisman]

Two already decided.

Gordon beat Kurt
JPM beat Hamlin

Also Biffle's gonna lose, so I'm out of it.

[Optional]

lap 79 Kyle is slowest car in top 10, Ambrose took almost a second out of his lead. Wonder if he is saving gas or his tires have gone off.

[Optional]

Will wait for official results. What they announced on ESPN is different to NASCAR website right now.

[DDT]

Looks like 3-2 for me

[MysteryMung]

Gordon
Said
Logano
JPM
Truex

Ambrose wins

100%????

[Optional]

Final player list;

yisman
rickie65
onlooker
luvtogamble
leadfootfred
BET THE HOOK
WolverineFan
MysteryMung
KC
CarolinaDaze
Optional
blueghost 20%
StanleySharp 40%
OnenOnlyMush 50% (2 to come)
DDT 20%
Brodog28 40%
BadNina 30%

248 Points



Watkins Glen Results

Oh mercy me. Be still my heart. My main man Marcos finally comes through for me.
6 smart players also picked him for the win here.

And 1 smart player picked him to win, as well as all 5 matchups for our first perfect score in ages!! Great work KC.

And another first time winner!


Kurt Busch 38th v Jeff Gordon 13th
Boris Said 22nd v Robby Gordon 24th
AJ Allmendinger 8th v Joey Logano 5th
Juan Pablo Montoya 7th v Denny Hamlin 36th
Martin Truex Jr 4th v Greg Biffle 31st

Winner: Marcos Ambrose


KC 5 + Winner
BadNina 4 + Winner
Brodog28 4
MysteryMung 4
WolverineFan 3 + Winner
Optional 3 + Winner
CarolinaDaze 3
BET THE HOOK 3
DDT 3
onlooker 3
blueghost 3
yisman 2 + Winner
luvtogamble 2 + winner
BigDaddyJames 2
StanleySharp 2
rickie65 2
leadfootfred 1
OnenOnlyMush 1


I am pretty sure the order posted on nascar.com is now correct, but it's still unofficial. So I'll double check the result quickly before sending you your 248 points prize tomorrow KC.

Updated Season Long Standings Here

Thanks for playing everyone. Hope to see ya'll again next Sunday at 1pm for Michigan.

[BadNina]

Yay!! No more road races!!

Although that is the best I have done.

[Optional]

Yay!! No more road races!!

Although that is the best I have done.

Actually that's the 5th time you have scored a 4 in just 9 games... you're rockin it!

[MysteryMung]

fun week fellas, even if i had to catch the last few laps in the basement cafeteria at work LOL.

And again, thanks for putting this thing on Optional, you're the man.

[StanleySharp]

And again, thanks for putting this thing on Optional, you're the man.

Thanks Opti!

I've been in a bad slump. Went big on Gordon over Jimmie and Kyle B over Marcos... figured I'd at least hit one

[Optional]

Yisman made a request for a rule change.


Poll: How does everyone feel about the second tie breaker rule? Would you prefer us to split the prize on a tie?


Personally I think it's good to make sure we have a single winner, so the prize is always as large as possible. And think the second tie breaker rule is fair because early posters make their picks with less information. Plus I can't think of another simple final tie breaker...


Yisman might like to give us the case against it?

Any other comments welcome too. (please give us a Yay, Nay or don't care response if you play regularly)

[onlooker]

Nay.

[yisman]

The case is pretty simple.

The current rule discourages participation, because if you aren't around pretty soon after the matchups are posted, your chances of winning are very limited.

It's happened several times where I go to pick Sunday morning and all the ones I wanted to pick (several of the matchups are clear, not toss-ups. In fact, all the matchups this week were clear) are unavailable.

You say "so pick a different race winner"? Also not good, because each week, there's a small handful of drivers picked to win.

This past week, I had to either not pick Ambrose (or one or two other drivers) to win, or change one of the matchups because my desired picks were already taken.

I think it's perfectly logical to split the prize pool if multiple posters made the same picks.

[onlooker]

We have been doing it this way for almost two NASCAR seasons and I think we get a fair amount of people winning each week. Hell, I've only won once this year and I'm usually one of the first to post my picks. There for a few weeks you were too Yisman. We can't satisfy everyone's schedule.

If we start splitting the pot, the value of this weekly pool goes down. It's not like it will be split between 2 people all the time.

Remember your season long record is effected by your weekly picks. You said you threw out Somona because you had no chance of winning? Well you could of been in the top 5 possibly if you made some picks.

What's next? No one can pick the same race winner has someone else?

Maybe the better solution is to figure out a new 2nd tie breaker. Maybe who will lead the most laps? Who will finish last? Who will have the fastest pit times? But I think the contest has been working fine.

I understand your concerns Yisman, and respect your views and opinions.

[yisman]

We have been doing it this way for almost two NASCAR seasons and I think we get a fair amount of people winning each week. Hell, I've only won once this year and I'm usually one of the first to post my picks. There for a few weeks you were too Yisman. We can't satisfy everyone's schedule.

I'm not asking to satisfy everyone's schedule. I'm just asking for a better solution. Don't you agree that it's fair to give everyone a reasonable chance to win, even if they're not online on Saturday when the matchups are posted? I'm certain I'm not the only one who has missed a week due to this.

If we start splitting the pot, the value of this weekly pool goes down. It's not like it will be split between 2 people all the time.

Oftentimes, the pot won't be split at all. This is just in case two people happen to have the same picks.

Remember your season long record is effected by your weekly picks. You said you threw out Somona because you had no chance of winning? Well you could of been in the top 5 possibly if you made some picks.

Doesn't matter. I have no chance of winning the season-long pool, and why would I throw away 22 points when I can't win that week due to the current setup?

What's next? No one can pick the same race winner has someone else?

No, my suggestion is exactly so people CAN pick the same race winner. The way it is now, you often can't. I don't think you understand what I'm saying.

Maybe the better solution is to figure out a new 2nd tie breaker. Maybe who will lead the most laps? Who will finish last? Who will have the fastest pit times? But I think the contest has been working fine.

I posted that in the other thread and I'd prefer splitting the pot, but if not, that's better than the current system.

[onlooker]

I do understand what your saying, but if one thing is changed, then other changes can come. That is what I meant.

You would of had a better chance at the season long pool if you had made some Somona picks.

Well why did you pick The Glen if this is how you feel? Didn't you feel you had no shot yesterday as well. Why did you throw away points for this one?

Sorry no quotes. On my phone and its a pain to multi quote.

[yisman]

I had already made my picks.

I guess I could've asked to cancel my picks but I didn't think Optional would go for that.

I didn't feel I had much of a chance to win and didn't want to do it, but I had already paid and picked.

I do understand what your saying, but if one thing is changed, then other changes can come. That is what I meant.

Yes, but what you said runs exactly contrary to what I want. You said maybe we'll prevent people from making certain picks in the future. My proposal was so that people are free to make whatever picks they want and still have a chance to win.

I think my suggestion is logical and the resistance seems to be because it's a change. I don't see what's wrong with changes if they're reasonable. Things don't have to stay the same in perpetuity.

[KC]

100%????

Thanks everybody..finally hit one of these, guess I need more road races

[onlooker]

I think my suggestion is logical and the resistance seems to be because it's a change. I don't see what's wrong with changes if they're reasonable. Things don't have to stay the same in perpetuity.

What resistance? I'm the only one to vote. Just voicing my opinions, just like you. Others need to vote. If the majority is in favor of the change, there isn't much I can do about it. I will go with it.

[yisman]

Well, no one has agreed.

[Optional]

Give it a few days Yis. A few more people will chime in. And I'll mention it in first post of next race thread.