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  • harthebar
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-09-11
    • 15710

    #4866
    updated
    BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} Lines From:05-19-2014 16:56:34
    Cut Off # Type Description Odds
    BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING}
    BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} - May 22
    ~~~~ NO REFUNDS ON NON STARTERS ~~~~~
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92051 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} CALIFORNIA CHROME EV
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92052 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} WICKED STRONG +600
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92053 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} DANZA +650
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92054 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} RIDE ON CURLIN +1500
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92055 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} SAMRAAT +1650
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92056 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} TONALIST +1000
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92057 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} SOCIAL INCLUSION +2250
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92058 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} INTENSE HOLIDAY +1850
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92059 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} COMMANDING CURVE +1000
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92060 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} KID CRUZ +2250
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92061 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} CANDY BOY +3250
    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92062 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} COMMISSIONER +3250
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    • harthebar
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-09-11
      • 15710

      #4867
      nortghfield race drew bromac n
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23436

        #4868
        mnr R9 #7 harbor mistress (8-1)

        guessing 3-1 as favorite scratched
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        • harthebar
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-09-11
          • 15710

          #4869
          P L Gyro is scheduled to run on 5/19/2014 in Race 7 at Woodbine Harness.
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          • Easy-Rider 66
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-14-12
            • 36103

            #4870
            Toss Danza from the Belmont. Pletcher said today he is a no go.
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            • mikemca
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-10-10
              • 10047

              #4871
              Wednesday 5/21

              Belmont
              Race 1
              2-Offlee Catty 6-1- Best value of the contenders ran a good 2nd in debut with J Ortiz aboard then fell off a bit in 2nd start with bug A Worrie riding.Gets Ortiz back and a return to 1st race would be competitive.
              6-Official 2-1- Probably the most likely winner as Jacobson is lights out dropping horses into maiden claimers from MSWs off a trainer change.
              4-Mary's In Utopia 12-1 has the best last race and it was at this track and distance 18 days ago.1 for 32 trainer the last year is the scary part.
              Of the others 9-5 fave Baby B has shown best on turf but Contessa good with the quick turn around and also drops from MSW.Rudy has the only firster in 1-Rockaway 4-1 but he is only 1 for 27 last year with 1st timers.

              2-Offlee Catty
              6-Official
              4-Mary's In Utopia


              Race 2

              4-Brilliant Command 8-1- Is my best bet on the day at the price.Field is wide open though with many fitting into a very tight window ability wise.This one could attract some attention because of B Brown's hot start.Started 7 for 14 and now 7 for 20.If price gets cut in half no longer best bet.
              3-Upper East Side 3-1- Pletcher runner ran better than looks when 3rd last race 1st time on turf.Switch to Castellano a plus.
              7-Bolt From The Blue 12-1- Adds value to a 3 horse box and trainer Bush positive roi 1st route and also 1st turf.Bush having a much better 2014 so far than his abysmal 2013.
              The others are obvious C Clement's Knight Of Valor 4-1 and 6-Private Relations 7-2 who have very under rated duo of Junior Alvarado/J Kimmel.

              4-Brilliant Command
              3-Upper East Side
              7-Bolt From The Blue

              Race 3
              Looks like a 3 horse race for the win between the 3 favorites.If wanting to try a long shot 4-Newyork Conspiracy 10-1 would add value while dropping one of the favorites from a 3 horse box.

              7-Bridgetta
              5-Purling
              4-Newyork Conspiracy


              Race 4
              Hard to get past the 2 faves 5-White Sangria 2-1 and 9-Neck Of The Moon 3-1 but 3-Marcy 50-1 is very interesting.

              5-White Sangria
              9-Neck Of The Moon
              3-Marcy


              Race 5
              Hard to gauge when more than half the betting interests have been running on turf.While the only dirt runners in favored McLaughlin 1/1A entry and 2nd choice 5-Sea Trial for Shug clearly have superior numbers.

              1/1A Entry
              5-Sea Trial


              Race 6
              Would most likely not try with exotics and just go with co-2nd choice 2-Papy 3-1 for Clement/Lezcano.If I try for the exacta would add 4-Nowhere To Run 15-1 who beat some good horses when he broke his maiden and 5-2 fave 3-Legendary.

              2-Papy
              3-Legendary
              4-Nowhere To Run


              Race 7
              Another chalky looking race but could do worse than throwing a win bet on 3rd choice 6-Star Magnolia 4-1 and if wanting to take on a speed holding scenario then throw 4-See The Music 10-1 in the ex with the 3 and 6 and hope it's 4-6 around the track.

              6-Star Magnolia
              3-Accomplish First
              4-See The Music


              Race 8
              Hate to keep going back to the well but Clement is amazing bringing horses back from layoffs.They come back running better than ever and 2-Maximova 4-1 was pretty good when she went to the bench.Otherwise it looks obvious 6-8 or 8-6.

              2-Maximova
              6-Scampering
              8-Filimbi


              Race 9
              Clement shows up again here with favorite Point Roll 2-1 whose first race blows away this field but next race was surprisingly poor.Hard to trust but if he runs his first race it's game over.He also has a firster who I would much prefer in the win pool in 8-Thurgood 8-1.The most interesting price is 9-Electric Currency 12-1 first off the claim for L Rice and trying turf for the first time.

              7-Point Roll
              8-Thurgood
              9-Electric Currency
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              • harthebar
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-09-11
                • 15710

                #4872
                thanks mike, mike do you know if there will be any other horses in the belmont, that have decided yet...or the one's i posted..is that it already..
                Originally posted by mikemca
                Wednesday 5/21

                Belmont
                Race 1
                2-Offlee Catty 6-1- Best value of the contenders ran a good 2nd in debut with J Ortiz aboard then fell off a bit in 2nd start with bug A Worrie riding.Gets Ortiz back and a return to 1st race would be competitive.
                6-Official 2-1- Probably the most likely winner as Jacobson is lights out dropping horses into maiden claimers from MSWs off a trainer change.
                4-Mary's In Utopia 12-1 has the best last race and it was at this track and distance 18 days ago.1 for 32 trainer the last year is the scary part.
                Of the others 9-5 fave Baby B has shown best on turf but Contessa good with the quick turn around and also drops from MSW.Rudy has the only firster in 1-Rockaway 4-1 but he is only 1 for 27 last year with 1st timers.

                2-Offlee Catty
                6-Official
                4-Mary's In Utopia


                Race 2

                4-Brilliant Command 8-1- Is my best bet on the day at the price.Field is wide open though with many fitting into a very tight window ability wise.This one could attract some attention because of B Brown's hot start.Started 7 for 14 and now 7 for 20.If price gets cut in half no longer best bet.
                3-Upper East Side 3-1- Pletcher runner ran better than looks when 3rd last race 1st time on turf.Switch to Castellano a plus.
                7-Bolt From The Blue 12-1- Adds value to a 3 horse box and trainer Bush positive roi 1st route and also 1st turf.Bush having a much better 2014 so far than his abysmal 2013.
                The others are obvious C Clement's Knight Of Valor 4-1 and 6-Private Relations 7-2 who have very under rated duo of Junior Alvarado/J Kimmel.

                4-Brilliant Command
                3-Upper East Side
                7-Bolt From The Blue

                Race 3
                Looks like a 3 horse race for the win between the 3 favorites.If wanting to try a long shot 4-Newyork Conspiracy 10-1 would add value while dropping one of the favorites from a 3 horse box.

                7-Bridgetta
                5-Purling
                4-Newyork Conspiracy


                Race 4
                Hard to get past the 2 faves 5-White Sangria 2-1 and 9-Neck Of The Moon 3-1 but 3-Marcy 50-1 is very interesting.

                5-White Sangria
                9-Neck Of The Moon
                3-Marcy


                Race 5
                Hard to gauge when more than half the betting interests have been running on turf.While the only dirt runners in favored McLaughlin 1/1A entry and 2nd choice 5-Sea Trial for Shug clearly have superior numbers.

                1/1A Entry
                5-Sea Trial


                Race 6
                Would most likely not try with exotics and just go with co-2nd choice 2-Papy 3-1 for Clement/Lezcano.If I try for the exacta would add 4-Nowhere To Run 15-1 who beat some good horses when he broke his maiden and 5-2 fave 3-Legendary.

                2-Papy
                3-Legendary
                4-Nowhere To Run


                Race 7
                Another chalky looking race but could do worse than throwing a win bet on 3rd choice 6-Star Magnolia 4-1 and if wanting to take on a speed holding scenario then throw 4-See The Music 10-1 in the ex with the 3 and 6 and hope it's 4-6 around the track.

                6-Star Magnolia
                3-Accomplish First
                4-See The Music


                Race 8
                Hate to keep going back to the well but Clement is amazing bringing horses back from layoffs.They come back running better than ever and 2-Maximova 4-1 was pretty good when she went to the bench.Otherwise it looks obvious 6-8 or 8-6.

                2-Maximova
                6-Scampering
                8-Filimbi


                Race 9
                Clement shows up again here with favorite Point Roll 2-1 whose first race blows away this field but next race was surprisingly poor.Hard to trust but if he runs his first race it's game over.He also has a firster who I would much prefer in the win pool in 8-Thurgood 8-1.The most interesting price is 9-Electric Currency 12-1 first off the claim for L Rice and trying turf for the first time.

                7-Point Roll
                8-Thurgood
                9-Electric Currency
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                • mikemca
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-10-10
                  • 10047

                  #4873
                  ur not gonna know for a week or two....a lot can happen between now and when entries are due
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                  • harthebar
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-09-11
                    • 15710

                    #4874
                    i figured as much, any horse out there that you would like to see jump in.....i figured one of thoses speed horses that ran at gulfstream, i think kid cruz got a lot of hype in preakness, being a homey..
                    Originally posted by mikemca
                    ur not gonna know for a week or two....a lot can happen between now and when entries are due
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                    • matrix1022
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 03-04-12
                      • 565

                      #4875
                      Mike you do the best layout for "picks ever! Regardless of the results , thanks for the work involved !
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                      • mikemca
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-10-10
                        • 10047

                        #4876
                        thx


                        I don't know why I do it that way but I always have.Just looks right to me.
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                        • brucedenton
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 04-05-12
                          • 141

                          #4877
                          Originally posted by matrix1022
                          Mike you do the best layout for "picks ever! Regardless of the results , thanks for the work involved !
                          I agree. Mike is the best!!
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                          • TonyP
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-20-09
                            • 8478

                            #4878
                            Mike always enjoy reading your selections as lot of times they saved me for the day.
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                            • harthebar
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-09-11
                              • 15710

                              #4879
                              yes he,he takes that time,lays out it there, i just copy and paste........im lazy.....im going to give him some points right now.and every winner today im going to give him 10 points.
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                              • harthebar
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-09-11
                                • 15710

                                #4880
                                because its the right way to do it, your a professional.....im just chicken stratch.....for real..
                                Originally posted by mikemca
                                thx


                                I don't know why I do it that way but I always have.Just looks right to me.
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                                • JBEX
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 23436

                                  #4881
                                  Bel

                                  R2 #6
                                  R3 #7
                                  R4 #9
                                  R5 #5
                                  R6 #6
                                  R7 #5
                                  R8 #8
                                  R9 #8

                                  bit of a hurry today
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                                  • harthebar
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-09-11
                                    • 15710

                                    #4882
                                    BELMONT
                                    RACE 3 Rettalfa
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                                    • harthebar
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-09-11
                                      • 15710

                                      #4883
                                      Belmont
                                      race 4 invanding humor
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                                      • harthebar
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-09-11
                                        • 15710

                                        #4884
                                        3rd race exacta
                                        20 POINTS
                                        Originally posted by mikemca
                                        wednesday 5/21

                                        belmont
                                        race 1
                                        2-offlee catty 6-1- best value of the contenders ran a good 2nd in debut with j ortiz aboard then fell off a bit in 2nd start with bug a worrie riding.gets ortiz back and a return to 1st race would be competitive.
                                        6-official 2-1- probably the most likely winner as jacobson is lights out dropping horses into maiden claimers from msws off a trainer change.
                                        4-mary's in utopia 12-1 has the best last race and it was at this track and distance 18 days ago.1 for 32 trainer the last year is the scary part.
                                        Of the others 9-5 fave baby b has shown best on turf but contessa good with the quick turn around and also drops from msw.rudy has the only firster in 1-rockaway 4-1 but he is only 1 for 27 last year with 1st timers.

                                        2-offlee catty
                                        6-official
                                        4-mary's in utopia


                                        race 2

                                        4-brilliant command 8-1- is my best bet on the day at the price.field is wide open though with many fitting into a very tight window ability wise.this one could attract some attention because of b brown's hot start.started 7 for 14 and now 7 for 20.if price gets cut in half no longer best bet.
                                        3-upper east side 3-1- pletcher runner ran better than looks when 3rd last race 1st time on turf.switch to castellano a plus.
                                        7-bolt from the blue 12-1- adds value to a 3 horse box and trainer bush positive roi 1st route and also 1st turf.bush having a much better 2014 so far than his abysmal 2013.
                                        The others are obvious c clement's knight of valor 4-1 and 6-private relations 7-2 who have very under rated duo of junior alvarado/j kimmel.

                                        4-brilliant command
                                        3-upper east side
                                        7-bolt from the blue

                                        race 3
                                        looks like a 3 horse race for the win between the 3 favorites.if wanting to try a long shot 4-newyork conspiracy 10-1 would add value while dropping one of the favorites from a 3 horse box.

                                        7-bridgetta
                                        5-purling
                                        4-newyork conspiracy


                                        race 4
                                        hard to get past the 2 faves 5-white sangria 2-1 and 9-neck of the moon 3-1 but 3-marcy 50-1 is very interesting.

                                        5-white sangria
                                        9-neck of the moon
                                        3-marcy


                                        race 5
                                        hard to gauge when more than half the betting interests have been running on turf.while the only dirt runners in favored mclaughlin 1/1a entry and 2nd choice 5-sea trial for shug clearly have superior numbers.

                                        1/1a entry
                                        5-sea trial


                                        race 6
                                        would most likely not try with exotics and just go with co-2nd choice 2-papy 3-1 for clement/lezcano.if i try for the exacta would add 4-nowhere to run 15-1 who beat some good horses when he broke his maiden and 5-2 fave 3-legendary.

                                        2-papy
                                        3-legendary
                                        4-nowhere to run


                                        race 7
                                        another chalky looking race but could do worse than throwing a win bet on 3rd choice 6-star magnolia 4-1 and if wanting to take on a speed holding scenario then throw 4-see the music 10-1 in the ex with the 3 and 6 and hope it's 4-6 around the track.

                                        6-star magnolia
                                        3-accomplish first
                                        4-see the music


                                        race 8
                                        hate to keep going back to the well but clement is amazing bringing horses back from layoffs.they come back running better than ever and 2-maximova 4-1 was pretty good when she went to the bench.otherwise it looks obvious 6-8 or 8-6.

                                        2-maximova
                                        6-scampering
                                        8-filimbi


                                        race 9
                                        clement shows up again here with favorite point roll 2-1 whose first race blows away this field but next race was surprisingly poor.hard to trust but if he runs his first race it's game over.he also has a firster who i would much prefer in the win pool in 8-thurgood 8-1.the most interesting price is 9-electric currency 12-1 first off the claim for l rice and trying turf for the first time.

                                        7-point roll
                                        8-thurgood
                                        9-electric currency
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                                        • harthebar
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-09-11
                                          • 15710

                                          #4885
                                          Sir Melo's Z Tam in Race 14 at Harrahs Philadelphia
                                          Kimberley R is scheduled to run on 5/21/2014 in Race 8 at Balmoral Park
                                          :Burkentine Hanover is scheduled to run on 5/21/2014 in Race 8 at Plainridge
                                          .:Jaworski is scheduled to run on 5/21/2014 in Race 8 at Northfield Park
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                                          • harthebar
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-09-11
                                            • 15710

                                            #4886
                                            let me know if you opened them

                                            that work
                                            Separation is entered today at EVANGELINE DOWNS.
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                                            • mikemca
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-10-10
                                              • 10047

                                              #4887
                                              Originally posted by harthebar
                                              3rd race exacta
                                              20 POINTS

                                              thx hart but the points really aren't necessary.I'm just sharing my opinion.

                                              Today 2 of the exactas(3rd/8th) were obvious and the other 2 exactas(1st/9th) had 1 obvious horse.Only the first race paid decent.

                                              Don't like the cards tomorrow.Didn't look at Friday yet but Evangeline looks good on Saturday
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                                              • harthebar
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-09-11
                                                • 15710

                                                #4888
                                                you deserve them, you put a lot of time into this,...and you share it....must be some big races at Evangeline,missed the 8th race exacta 20 points ..lol saturday.
                                                Originally posted by mikemca
                                                thx hart but the points really aren't necessary.I'm just sharing my opinion.

                                                Today 2 of the exactas(3rd/8th) were obvious and the other 2 exactas(1st/9th) had 1 obvious horse.Only the first race paid decent.

                                                Don't like the cards tomorrow.Didn't look at Friday yet but Evangeline looks good on Saturday
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                                                • Slimpickens
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-28-12
                                                  • 2030

                                                  #4889
                                                  Hart, what site do you watch Gulfstream replays? Cant find em on the Gulfstream site, only has trakus info.
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                                                  • Easy-Rider 66
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 02-14-12
                                                    • 36103

                                                    #4890
                                                    Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                                    Hart, what site do you watch Gulfstream replays? Cant find em on the Gulfstream site, only has trakus info.
                                                    BLOODHORSE streams the stakes races from GP for free. Do not know where else to find the other races other than paying for an Equibase subscription. Maybe hart knows.
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                                                    • Slimpickens
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-28-12
                                                      • 2030

                                                      #4891
                                                      Yea. I usually use Formulator for replays so I havent the 1st clue where to look now that DRF has went off the grid. Several GP shippers at AQU tommorow is why I was wondering... Thanks.
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                                                      • mikemca
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-10-10
                                                        • 10047

                                                        #4892
                                                        Don't you guys have Twinspires accounts?

                                                        You can see any replay since 2005 there.
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                                                        • mikemca
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-10-10
                                                          • 10047

                                                          #4893
                                                          Originally posted by harthebar
                                                          you deserve them, you put a lot of time into this,...and you share it....must be some big races at Evangeline,missed the 8th race exacta 20 points ..lol saturday.
                                                          thx again but like I told Easy, It sets a precedent that people should send me points.I don't want that.

                                                          You/Everybody should save their points and get gift cards.


                                                          Not really that big of races at EVD .It's a state bred day but their are 7 stakes with good fields.
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                                                          • Easy-Rider 66
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-14-12
                                                            • 36103

                                                            #4894
                                                            Originally posted by mikemca
                                                            Don't you guys have Twinspires accounts?

                                                            You can see any replay since 2005 there.
                                                            NO. I live in a state that restricts ADW's. DW and offshore for me.
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                                                            • mikemca
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-10-10
                                                              • 10047

                                                              #4895
                                                              That sucks...You should really try to find a way to get access even if you can't bet.Get a relative to set up an account from out of state or something.All the resources like replays,trainer,jockey,trainer/jockey,sire,dam, and basically everything formulator charges a zillion dollars for is free.

                                                              If you have twinspires for all that and then timeform for speed figs/pace figs and historical charts , you have everything you could ask for pennies on the dollar of what it costs elsewhere.
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                                                              • TonyP
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-20-09
                                                                • 8478

                                                                #4896
                                                                you can get historical charts for free at equibase
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                                                                • mikemca
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-10-10
                                                                  • 10047

                                                                  #4897
                                                                  Originally posted by TonyP
                                                                  you can get historical charts for free at equibase


                                                                  Equibase just shows the running lines and chart caller

                                                                  TFUS charts are interactive and also have speed and pace figs for all the horses.
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                                                                  • Easy-Rider 66
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 02-14-12
                                                                    • 36103

                                                                    #4898
                                                                    Originally posted by mikemca
                                                                    That sucks...You should really try to find a way to get access even if you can't bet.Get a relative to set up an account from out of state or something.All the resources like replays,trainer,jockey,trainer/jockey,sire,dam, and basically everything formulator charges a zillion dollars for is free.

                                                                    If you have twinspires for all that and then timeform for speed figs/pace figs and historical charts , you have everything you could ask for pennies on the dollar of what it costs elsewhere.
                                                                    Yeah about 15 or so states restrict ADW access. Might look into that.
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                                                                    • TonyP
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-20-09
                                                                      • 8478

                                                                      #4899
                                                                      MIke are you going to play the rainbow 6 mandatory payout?
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23436

                                                                        #4900
                                                                        Bel

                                                                        R1 #5 golden nugget
                                                                        R2 #3 william's lucky gray (5-1)
                                                                        R4 #12 canarsie kid
                                                                        R9 #10 mental iceberg

                                                                        CD

                                                                        R3 #10 jomelo
                                                                        R4 #5 mr right (5-2)
                                                                        R5 #3 rulelikecleo (2-1)
                                                                        R7 #7 contrapuntal (10-1)
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