Preakness.

**Seattle Slew** · 05-14-11, 12:15 AM

Think Animal Kingdom will win, but will take Mucho Macho Man as well.

**powerhouse** · 05-14-11, 06:41 AM

Whatever happens, wouldn't this be ironic if it was a triple crown winning year?

**TonyP** · 05-14-11, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by powerhouse

Whatever happens, wouldn't this be ironic if it was a triple crown winning year?

If AK makes it past the preakness he will win a triple crown

**Thunder Gulch** · 05-14-11, 09:04 AM

I like Sway Away at a big price

**rthoughton** · 05-14-11, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

If AK makes it past the preakness he will win a triple crown

No way any horse beats Nehro in the Belmont.

**rthoughton** · 05-14-11, 11:00 PM

Still diggin on that dialed in.

**mrginandtonic** · 05-14-11, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by rthoughton

No way any horse beats Nehro in the Belmont.

Nakatani doesn't know how to win big races....,,

**orioles** · 05-14-11, 11:18 PM

Dialed In gets one more shot.

**TonyP** · 05-15-11, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by rthoughton

No way any horse beats Nehro in the Belmont.

LOL looked like he was shortning up in the derby and ak went by him easy.

**TonyP** · 05-15-11, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by orioles

Dialed In gets one more shot.

dialed in is dialed out

**TonyP** · 05-15-11, 11:07 AM

There is no way Nehro can hold off AK in the Belmont. Ak was just starting to run and Nehro was shortning up in the Derby, no one can stop Ak in the Belmont.

**foryourhandicap** · 05-15-11, 08:03 PM

Well Nakatani was criticized for making his move too soon.

**JW Cash** · 05-15-11, 11:14 PM

i am liking milkshake magic for the upset win....................

**ATP123** · 05-16-11, 09:09 AM

nehro had no f business being hard-pressed early, prob wouldnt have won anyway given the way AK rolled, not sure why nehros connections are considering the preakness unless they plan to send him out winging again, 1 1/16 wont allow that huge stretch kick, and yes Nehro would roll in the belmont if he lays off the pace

**TonyP** · 05-16-11, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by ATP123

nehro had no f business being hard-pressed early, prob wouldnt have won anyway given the way AK rolled, not sure why nehros connections are considering the preakness unless they plan to send him out winging again, 1 1/16 wont allow that huge stretch kick, and yes Nehro would roll in the belmont if he lays off the pace

I dont know why they would run nehro in the preakness either. Nehro and AK lay off the pace in the belmont whos likely to win that battle. AK he did it before and this would be how many races for nehro who would proly tire more easily evident of that in derby then the lighter raced Ak.

**rthoughton** · 05-16-11, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by TonyP

LOL looked like he was shortning up in the derby and ak went by him easy.

Ya. I made a mistake. He was outrun at a mile and a quarter.
I might really like Nehro in the Preakness at a mile and an eighth. It looks like he is going to run.

I realized that I misspoke much later. whoops.

**rthoughton** · 05-16-11, 10:18 AM

preakness is a 1mi and 3/16 race. not an eighth. ha. not a sixteenth.
we'll get it.
PP1:Animal Kingdom Team Valor International H. Graham Motion John Velazquez Team Valor
2 Dialed In Robert V. LaPenta Nick Zito Julien Leparoux W. S. Farish, Madeline Pickens & Skara Glen Stables
3 Nehro Zayat Stables Steve Asmussen Corey Nakatani Mt. Brilliant Farm
4Midnight Interlude Arnold Zetcher Bob Baffert Victor Espinoza Arnold Zetcher
5 Mucho Macho Man Reeves Thoroughbred Racing & Dream Team One Racing Stable Kathy Ritvo Rajiv Maragh John and Carole Rio
6 Shackleford Michael Lauffer - W. D. Cubbedge Dale Romans Jesus Castanon Mike Lauffer and Bill Cubbedge
7 Astrology Stonestreet Stable and George Bolton Steve Asmussen Mike Smith Stonestreet Thoroughbred Holdings
8 King Congie West Point Thoroughbreds Tom Albertrani Robby Albarado Bob Austin
9 Flashpoint Peachtree Stables Wesley A. Ward Cornelio Velasquez Silverleaf Farms Inc
10 Mr. Commons St. George Farm Racing John Shirreffs TBA St. George Farm Racing
11 Sway Away Batman Stable, Philip Lebhert, Cindy Olsen, Janet Sharp, Glen Wallace Jeff Bonde Garrett Gomez Billy Tillery & Bob Sliger
12 Norman Asbjornson Thomas McClay & Harry Nye Christopher Grove TBA Horseshoe Valley Equine
13 Ruler On Ice George and Lori Hall Kelly Breen Jose Valdivia Jr. Liberation Farm & Brandywine Farm
14 Dance City Estate of Edward P. Evans Todd Pletcher Ramon Dominguez Edward P. Evans

I just found this... Here's the Field and PPs. Now what do we think. Still like AK in the 1? I do not.

**rthoughton** · 05-16-11, 10:23 AM

And my very good friend's, with whom Ill be simulcasting at Keeneland on race day, father delivered Nehro. So Im partial. That horse looked great at a mile and an eighth in the derby and even perhaps the 3/16. Gonna be really hard to go against this horse at this distance. I thought they were gonna rest him, at least that's what he told me, but looks like not.
These are the horses Im considering for the top two lines of my tri wheel: 1-3,5,6.
Really leaning to this as of now: 2,3 / 1-3,5,6 / ALL.. this ticket is $96 for $1tri, $48 for a $0.50.
I would really like to single the winner. Why not Nehro at this perfect distance?

**TonyP** · 05-16-11, 10:53 AM

They dont draw post positions until Wed 5-18 in the afternoon

**rthoughton** · 05-16-11, 11:32 AM

That's what I thought. Found that on the Preakness site.

Preakness 150 | Preakness Stakes | Preakness

http://www.preakness.com/race-info

The 150th running of the Preakness Stakes (G1) will take place on Saturday, May 17 as part of an incredible weekend that will feature the finest contenders in Thoroughbred horse racing

**Thunder Gulch** · 05-16-11, 02:49 PM

Dialed In won't be dropped off the map this time, and he'll get a little pace to run at.
Nehro wasn't pushed, he simply stayed in touch with the slowest Derby pace I can remember. I like him, but more in the Belmont.

**dise-pa** · 05-16-11, 04:04 PM

who do you like for the daily double? blackeye susan and preakness....can't wait go baby go!!!!

**TonyP** · 05-16-11, 04:06 PM

Whos albarado on in the black eyed susan? you know black eyes for the black eye susan lol

**rthoughton** · 05-17-11, 08:09 AM

I haven't looked at any of the other races.
How do you feel about AK, DI, Nehro on top of a tri wheel in a relatively weak field. Whattaya think? 6 real contenders? MMM should hit the board again, midnight interlude and shackleford in there some where. I think dialed in and Nehro (if he runs) are my favorites for this race.

**TonyP** · 05-17-11, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by rthoughton

I haven't looked at any of the other races.
How do you feel about AK, DI, Nehro on top of a tri wheel in a relatively weak field. Whattaya think? 6 real contenders? MMM should hit the board again, midnight interlude and shackleford in there some where. I think dialed in and Nehro (if he runs) are my favorites for this race.

Nehro is out ( Where they sacared he would run second again ) Ak goes on top along with MMM, and will have to see how race shapes up after post draw.

**rthoughton** · 05-17-11, 09:46 AM

Preakness: Nehro declared out by Zayat

http://www.drf.com/news/preakness-nehro-declared-out-zayat

Nehro, the Kentucky Derby runner-up, will not run in the Preakness Stakes on Saturday at Pimlico, owner Ahmed Zayat said early Tuesday morning. "It's a very hard decision, but I want to err on the side of caution," Zayat said. "He couldn't look any better. His work on Monday was absolutely awesome. I'm just concerned about him having four hard races in eight weeks, even if, outwardly, he doesn't appear to be showing it.

Nehro Out. concerned with "4 hard races in 8 weeks." Wanting to "err on the side of caution."
Just as well, makes my play a little easier.

You really don't think Dialed In can get it done in this spot?

**rthoughton** · 05-17-11, 09:55 AM

AK / MMM, Dialed In, Shackleford / MMM, DI, Shackleford, King Congie, Midnight Interlude, Mr Common, Sway Away = $18 tri
MMM, Dialed In, Shackleford / Animal Kingdom / same 7 ^ = $18 tri
Same 7 ^ / MMM Dialed In Shackleford / AK = $14 tri

just selecting one horse (AK) to hit the board. $50 in total tri plays. Or I could go $0.50 tri and get $25 total for a more conservative approach.

I'd like to get your take on Shackleford, Sway Away, Mr Commons and the rest of the non-derby horses. Any of those sticking out?

**TonyP** · 05-17-11, 10:04 AM

I dont like the way Dialed in ran his last 2 races, shack couldnt get it done on a race that couldnt have been any easier for him.

**BuckeyeT** · 05-17-11, 11:16 AM

I think Dialed will run a much better race this time as he should have a better pace to run at plus the $5.5 mill bonus is an insentive enough for Zito to have him ready to go.

I will be pulling for AK though as it will put horse racing back in the spotlight for the next 3 weeks with all the triple crown talk.

**gtkid911** · 05-17-11, 11:18 AM

dialed in will show up since there are so many fewer horses and the pace will be significantly faster than the Derby

**rthoughton** · 05-17-11, 01:07 PM

Shackleford second to Dialed In in the Florida Derby and 4th in KY Derby. dont ignore this horse.

**Thunder Gulch** · 05-17-11, 01:40 PM

I agree that Zito will do his absolute best to have Dialed In ready with $5M on the line. Shackleford had the easiest of paces in 64 Derbies and couldn't hang. Staying the distance beyond 9f is much more about the pace than the extra 330 yards.

**mikemca** · 05-17-11, 01:52 PM

The track was playing to outside horses who came off the pace and Shack ran inside while setting the pace.So Shackleford ran as well as he did against a double bias.Its the 2 week turnaround that I think is the main knock.

**TonyP** · 05-17-11, 01:52 PM

Maybe zito can talk to dutrow about getting a horse ready?