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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23140

    #10746
    Originally posted by str

    A little Frisky.

    Probably runs fine, maybe even wins, but with all the AM's out there to play, I would watch this one, and maybe see if next out is a play. For the apparent reward of 5-2 or 3-1 I think there are many more live plays than this one, this time out.
    She will try as they all do but have to think I would watch her closely this time for any indication of next out.

    On a side note, when you break your maiden at Woodbine, they all seem to run back in Stakes. WTF. How about an A other than and work on how to win instead of trying to grab the glory in race #2? I guess that's not as much fun though. So I get it.
    just curious what you think about this str.. late in the far turn do you feel him not being able to get outside of the roan because of the 7 cost him some momentum ?
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    • JBEX
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-02-12
      • 23140

      #10747
      Originally posted by JBEX

      just curious what you think about this str.. late in the far turn do you feel him not being able to get outside of the roan because of the 7 cost him some momentum ?
      might have had just as much to do with the roan drifting out as the 7
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23140

        #10748
        army mule ..monday


        presque isle 7 @ 6:12
        #1 captain courtney (9-5)

        presque isle 6
        #6 calvary cat (8-1)


        Last edited by JBEX; 06-01-25, 09:56 PM.
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        • JBEX
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 23140

          #10749
          Originally posted by JBEX
          army mule ..monday


          presque isle 7 @ 6:12
          #1 captain courtney (9-5)





          2nd off layoff (considering debut) , stretching out 1.5f .. both again

          but an awful long breather prior to her last race and to lay off mid year off 3 straight wins there must've been a serious issue



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          • JBEX
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-02-12
            • 23140

            #10750
            added another



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            • str
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-12-09
              • 11602

              #10751
              Originally posted by JBEX

              just curious what you think about this str.. late in the far turn do you feel him not being able to get outside of the roan because of the 7 cost him some momentum ?
              Question: Who was the rider? Is that rider fairly young? I ask because I am not sure that rider was committed to riding like the jock was in charge and it looked more to me that the rider was indecisive early. That jock just did not look confident in making any decision early. As a result, the rider made no decision and the other horses basically rode the race for him/her. Guess that sounds weird but that is exactly what I saw.
              This horse broke fine and could have done anything or been anywhere it wanted to be. 24.77 first 1/4 and you are 3 wide and let the 4 wide horse cross over into a slow fraction? Was the rider riding to instructions and not confident enough to make a decision based on the race instead of the pre race assumptions?

              A trainer can draw the race up on paper for the rider. I did that every time. But... when they break, the paper is a prediction of events and the rider must grab those events and do what makes sense for that horse and him or herself as things play out.

              That looked like a ride not to lose or make a mistake instead of a ride too win.

              A rider change can be good but if the trainer sits down and discusses that attempt on film with the rider, this rider will certainly be better next out. Without knowing alot more, I'm not saying change the rider. I am saying either change the rider OR, air this mess out and both be better for it next out.

              As for next time out, you folks should circle this one and make sure you give this horse a hard look next out. This is how you find horses where you probably know more than most of the other players you are betting against. On form this race looks ok. But that had the potential to be much better than that. A must follow for next time out JBEX.

              And yes, a little tired that last 1/8th. Won't be next time. Especially with a 5/8ths - out 3/4's in it between now and then.
              Last edited by str; 06-02-25, 07:30 AM.
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              • JBEX
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 23140

                #10752
                Originally posted by str

                Question: Who was the rider? Is that rider fairly young? I ask because I am not sure that rider was committed to riding like the jock was in charge and it looked more to me that the rider was indecisive early. That jock just did not look confident in making any decision early. As a result, the rider made no decision and the other horses basically rode the race for him/her. Guess that sounds weird but that is exactly what I saw.
                This horse broke fine and could have done anything or been anywhere it wanted to be. 24.77 first 1/4 and you are 3 wide and let the 4 wide horse cross over into a slow fraction? Was the rider riding to instructions and not confident enough to make a decision based on the race instead of the pre race assumptions?

                A trainer can draw the race up on paper for the rider. I did that every time. But... when they break, the paper is a prediction of events and the rider must grab those events and do what makes sense for that horse and him or herself as things play out.

                That looked like a ride not to lose or make a mistake instead of a ride too win.

                A rider change can be good but if the trainer sits down and discusses that attempt on film with the rider, this rider will certainly be better next out. Without knowing alot more, I'm not saying change the rider. I am saying either change the rider OR, air this mess out and both be better for it next out.

                As for next time out, you folks should circle this one and make sure you give this horse a hard look next out. This is how you find horses where you probably know more than most of the other players you are betting against. On form this race looks ok. But that had the potential to be much better than that. A must follow for next time out JBEX.

                And yes, a little tired that last 1/8th. Won't be next time. Especially with a 5/8ths - out 3/4's in it between now and then.
                this is the jockey's 3rd full year ,low teens win % and over 1k mounts ..not really familiar with the colony but know a few names, main one being patrick husband's .. race was fairly deep with jock talent by the numbers

                trainer josie carroll at it for a long time and I believe one of the best at that track so making the right adjustments likely


                saw the running line and imo it's very similiar to the one he ran off the long layoff last year..didn't run bad in the following race considering the slow start and crawling pace

                put all this together and as you said a good one to keep tabs on and I will

                appreciate the feedback as always str
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                • str
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 11602

                  #10753
                  Originally posted by JBEX

                  just curious what you think about this str.. late in the far turn do you feel him not being able to get outside of the roan because of the 7 cost him some momentum ?
                  By then that roan was all out and I do think the inside horse was out of gears and just running as best as it could. The problem was letting that roan horse get a jump on him in the first place. You have to keep that right eye clear and the outside horse took that away and the inside horse had no gear to gain it back.
                  Kind of a confusing ride IMO. I think that jockey would love anther chance to do things better.
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                  • str
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-12-09
                    • 11602

                    #10754
                    Originally posted by JBEX
                    army mule ..monday


                    presque isle 7 @ 6:12
                    #1 captain courtney (9-5)

                    presque isle 6
                    #6 calvary cat (8-1)

                    Just another day at the office for Army Mule.

                    Horse in the 7th wins

                    Horse in the 6th finishes 2nd at 6-1

                    The favorite in the race won and the exacta was 50.00. INCREDIBLE !

                    This is the closest thing to a sure thing as you will ever get.

                    Army Mules show up every single time.
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                    • JBEX
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-02-12
                      • 23140

                      #10755
                      Originally posted by str

                      Just another day at the office for Army Mule.

                      Horse in the 7th wins

                      Horse in the 6th finishes 2nd at 6-1

                      The favorite in the race won and the exacta was 50.00. INCREDIBLE !

                      This is the closest thing to a sure thing as you will ever get.

                      Army Mules show up every single time.
                      exacta paid around double what it should have ..not supported in the pools at all




                      I'll put the lone one today here



                      thistledown 6 @ 3:20
                      #2 holidays army brat (5-2)





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                      • str
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 11602

                        #10756
                        Originally posted by JBEX

                        exacta paid around double what it should have ..not supported in the pools at all




                        I'll put the lone one today here



                        thistledown 6 @ 3:20
                        #2 holidays army brat (5-2)





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                        Small field but a really competitive race.

                        She should run very well in there.
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                        • str
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-12-09
                          • 11602

                          #10757
                          Originally posted by str

                          Small field but a really competitive race.

                          She should run very well in there.
                          Certainly did try hard. But...11 and 11, 12 and 12, and 13 and 13 were the fractions

                          This one got cooked on the lead and the rail.

                          Watch for a better outside post and a possible more relaxed first 1/4 setup next time out.
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