Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

was going back a few generations on a horse's pedigree (forget who) and the 3rd or 4th dam sire was roberto

thinking of all the interesting things with him

top flight runner europe

same year (1969) and sire (hail to reason) as halo who was a very solid runner and sire himself .. remember you said you beat halo at mth ! also halo is the sire of sunday silence (famous battles with easy goer in triple crown races and the greatest japanese sire of all time)

roberto is the sire of two "major" stallions in kris s and dynaformer (and sure at least a few others) who both could get top runners on either surface ..distance influences

interesting he was a 3yo the year roberto clemente died in a plane crash (1972)..guess it's possible he was named after him (obviously too soon for the crash) as he was an all time great and it was late in his career .. if so they certainly got it right

I think after the 3 major influences ( mr prospector,northern dancer and bold ruler) that hail to reason might be the 4th .. mainly with the two stallions mentioned above (roberto and halo) and especially considering what sunday silence (halo) did in japan

owner of the pirates at that time bred him so more than likely that was the reason






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[str]

owner of the pirates at that time bred him so more than likely that was the reason






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Yes. I was a huge Pirates fan then. Had just gotten 3,000 hits and was retiring. I was a green hot walker who kept getting my foot stepped on. Thought I would fix it by buying steel toed boots. Then nearly froze my toes off in the winter. Lol.

[str]

was going back a few generations on a horse's pedigree (forget who) and the 3rd or 4th dam sire was roberto

thinking of all the interesting things with him

top flight runner europe

same year (1969) and sire (hail to reason) as halo who was a very solid runner and sire himself .. remember you said you beat halo at mth ! also halo is the sire of sunday silence (famous battles with easy goer in triple crown races and the greatest japanese sire of all time)

roberto is the sire of two "major" stallions in kris s and dynaformer (and sure at least a few others) who both could get top runners on either surface ..distance influences

interesting he was a 3yo the year roberto clemente died in a plane crash (1972)..guess it's possible he was named after him (obviously too soon for the crash) as he was an all time great and it was late in his career .. if so they certainly got it right

I think after the 3 major influences ( mr prospector,northern dancer and bold ruler) that hail to reason might be the 4th .. mainly with the two stallions mentioned above (roberto and halo) and especially considering what sunday silence (halo) did in japan

Fascinating bloodlines. Probably capable of running on both and winning. Probably just needs to mature a little and let that royal blood settle in. I will be surprised if he doesn't shine next year. And maybe start to this year.

[JBEX]

Yes. I was a huge Pirates fan then. Had just gotten 3,000 hits and was retiring. I was a green hot walker who kept getting my foot stepped on. Thought I would fix it by buying steel toed boots. Then nearly froze my toes off in the winter. Lol.

about the time I was just getting into baseball (born 1963) so don't remember him as a player..just that he was an all time great and had no weaknesses. you being a little older probably got to see him in his prime especially if you were a pirates fan ..guess one way or the other there was going to be some discomfort in the winter

[JBEX]

Fascinating bloodlines. Probably capable of running on both and winning. Probably just needs to mature a little and let that royal blood settle in. I will be surprised if he doesn't shine next year. And maybe start to this year.

yes on the bloodlines ..really impressive


believe it or not I forget the horse lol but not one of the 3 we follow..not sure how much it would've affected my decision whether to follow him or not but every once in a while will look past 2nd dams in the female family
just out of curiosity..was aware there was some pedigree significance with roberto but forgot what it was ..it is kind of amazing (and tragic) that he died the same year the horse was in his prime

[JBEX]

there's an army mule in R2 (#1) at saratoga..went with somebody else but not a bad horse at all

[str]

there's an army mule in R2 (#1) at saratoga..went with somebody else but not a bad horse at all

I’ll try and take a look.
thanks

[str]

there's an army mule in R2 (#1) at saratoga..went with somebody else but not a bad horse at all

Looks like there are plenty of maybes in that race including her.
An underwhelming bunch it seems.

[JBEX]

Looks like there are plenty of maybes in that race including her.
An underwhelming bunch it seems.

yeah n2l for a good size tag 50k..typical mcl winners and alw droppers ..he being the former..mine #9 the other

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Visceral Entry Update
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Visceral is officially in for next Thursday at Del Mar. He’ll be the #2 among a field of eight carded as the day’s fourth race. Post time is 3:30 p.m. PT.
We’ll follow up with a closer look at the competition in the coming days, but at a glance it looks like a well-matched group that Visceral certainly fits with. Note that he also qualifies for the maiden dirt bonus which bumps the purse up to $90K.

[JBEX]

maiden dirt bonus is interesting batts..wonder what the logic is there?

[JBEX]

maiden dirt bonus is interesting batts..wonder what the logic is there?

applies to maiden dirt races where horses ran 1st through 5th vs straight maidens in their previous race..guess 1st means they were disqualified ?? probably attracts shippers to the track

[JBEX]

hey str

babies going 2 turns on the turf in sar R1..@12:35
nice weather forecast up there for the weekend


amazing not only in same race but side by side


clement firster by liam's map

#7 hands of time (6-1)

DM trainer and sire




todd 2nd time starter ..uncle mo out of a tapit mare

#8 nudge (9-2)

KB trainer ,sire and dam sire combo

another shot to see this pedigree combo on the turf
..other the delaware turf marathon last week where a horse with this combo finished a good 2nd

[JBEX]

should be noted KB and DM were extremely expensive horses while these two aren't..not cheap though either

[str]

yeah n2l for a good size tag 50k..typical mcl winners and alw droppers ..he being the former..mine #9 the other

Nice call JBEX !

[str]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Visceral Entry Update
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Visceral is officially in for next Thursday at Del Mar. He’ll be the #2 among a field of eight carded as the day’s fourth race. Post time is 3:30 p.m. PT.
We’ll follow up with a closer look at the competition in the coming days, but at a glance it looks like a well-matched group that Visceral certainly fits with. Note that he also qualifies for the maiden dirt bonus which bumps the purse up to $90K.

We will be sure and look that over when it gets closer.

Thanks Batt.

[str]

hey str

babies going 2 turns on the turf in sar R1..@12:35
nice weather forecast up there for the weekend


amazing not only in same race but side by side


clement firster by liam's map

#7 hands of time (6-1)

DM trainer and sire




todd 2nd time starter ..uncle mo out of a tapit mare

#8 nudge (9-2)

KB trainer ,sire and dam sire combo

another shot to see this pedigree combo on the turf
..other the delaware turf marathon last week where a horse with this combo finished a good 2nd

I'll take a look. Thanks JBEX.

[JBEX]

I'll take a look. Thanks JBEX.

np str

for debut's thought both gave a good account of themselves

[JBEX]

np str

for debut's thought both gave a good account of themselves

factoring in them being young 2yo's also





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[batt33]

applies to maiden dirt races where horses ran 1st through 5th vs straight maidens in their previous race..guess 1st means they were disqualified ?? probably attracts shippers to the track

Yes I believe you are right, Trying to get horses to cali

[batt33]

Ugh Fire season Is here.... My Team is on standby.... for a fire hopefully they pick up.... couple of updates

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report[/COLOR]https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...1500739580.mp4

Straight No Chaser had his final breeze this morning over the Seaside oval receiving an official time of 1:01.60. Trainer Dan Blacker had him in :59 flat galloping out in 1:10.80. There were quite a few workers early this morning so perhaps the clockers missed him or were on the wrong horse but nonetheless, Blacker was thrilled with this final drill.
He breezed under Juan Landeros and traveled solo for the first half of the work before catching company in the turn and stretch. He cooled out in great order after the work and all systems are a go for next Saturday. Click here for the Bing Crosby nominations.

Funny how the trainer always have them going quicker!

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]STG Feeling Good
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We wanted to share this photo taken of Seize the Grey feeling good this morning at the Spa. See the tweet above from Mary Eddy.

Hall of Fame legend D. Wayne Lukas looks on as G1 Preakness winner SEIZE THE GREY shows off how good he’s feeling in the round pen after an early gallop this morning. pic.twitter.com/73T96otjR4

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Real Savvy Workout Report
https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...1490874468.mp4
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Real Savvy breezed a half mile in :49.16 this morning over the Saratoga main track. Your son of Authentic worked (inside) in company with Escapades, breezing head and head to the wire and proved best on the gallop out.
As we reported in yesterday’s update, we are going to consider entering Real Savvy for a NY-bred maiden special weight on August 1st as a main track only entrant.
Assistant trainer Miguel Clement provided a quick update which can be seen above in addition to the work.

[batt33]

Thought this is pretty cool...

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]New Auction Items Added[/COLOR]The MyRacehorse Transition Fund is off to a healthy start after the final gavel fell in our inaugural Retail with a Purpose Auction last week! We have raised a very generous $10,421 that will go directly toward easing the well-deserved transitions our equine athletes deserve upon the conclusion of their racing careers.

[batt33]

We will be sure and look that over when it gets closer.

Thanks Batt.

their take.... still waiting to see where I'm headed

Visceral Race Overview

Visceral stretches out to a mile and sheds his extension blinker as he makes his second start at Del Mar on Thursday. It’s no secret that we had high hopes for the grey heading into his debut, and he definitely showed some run while finding a bit of traffic trouble. Many signs point to a step forward in this second go, and if that happens, his competition may very well be in trouble. Trainer Mark Glatt is 16% over the past five years with firsters, and 19% with second-time maidens. When you filter that second group for only horses going sprint to route on the dirt, he’s three-for-seven over the past five years with two more seconds. Just one horse from Visceral’s debut race has run back thus far—stablemate Santarena, who was second last out, was third Saturday in another sprint. See below for a closer look at the competition. Click here for past performances. Good luck! #1 Abitmischievous - $310K 2yo buy by Into Mischief improved second out going turf to dirt sprint. Two full siblings won routing, and a half-sister was GSP going two turns on the dirt. Barn is 13% with maidens stretching out. Logical contender. #3 Mongolian Gold - Narrow third in a Los Al sprint that was won by a pricey Baffert firster but which came back slow on figures. Runner-up upended a sprint MSW on Saturday at huge odds, so that race may have been stronger than the figures suggest. 4yo and $25K purchase is a bit exposed. Likely up against it despite the last race angle. #4 Canada Gate - Well-bred Juddmonte homebred finished second beaten nine lengths, and directly in front of two returning rivals, when stretching out at Santa Anita last time. The winner that day, Pony Express, is being considered for the Jim Dandy. Not sure he’s a superstar by any means, but he could take this. #5 Captain Choochies - Winless in 13 tries, though he was DQ’d once from a win. 4yo was second last time against softer company, and actually owns the best last-out Beyer Speed Figure of 77, but doubt he classes up with the best of these. #6 Winterfell - If not for his fourth-place run (beaten almost 19) in that Pony Express race, he’d be a pretty big favorite here, as his efforts two and three back were much faster than anything anyone else has run yet. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him bounce back, but couldn’t fully trust him. #7 Battle Cruiser - Relatively pricey son of Catalina Cruiser ($300K) was second when risked for a $62.5K tag back in May. The form of that race has not held up particularly well. Gets a weight break, but others have much more appeal. #8 Indispensable - Battle Cruiser’s stablemate and looks like the preferred runner of the two based on jockey assignments. $825K son of Constitution was third behind stablemate Pony Express last out and beaten only a nose by Canada Gate. Has been on the board in six of eight tries, but it’s fair to say he’s already had his chances.

[str]

np str

for debut's thought both gave a good account of themselves

factoring in them being young 2yo's also





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Agreed
I thought they both ran very well.

[str]

Ugh Fire season Is here.... My Team is on standby.... for a fire hopefully they pick up.... couple of updates

Stay safe Batt. That's a hack of a thing you do .

[str]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report[/COLOR]https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...1500739580.mp4

Straight No Chaser had his final breeze this morning over the Seaside oval receiving an official time of 1:01.60. Trainer Dan Blacker had him in :59 flat galloping out in 1:10.80. There were quite a few workers early this morning so perhaps the clockers missed him or were on the wrong horse but nonetheless, Blacker was thrilled with this final drill.
He breezed under Juan Landeros and traveled solo for the first half of the work before catching company in the turn and stretch. He cooled out in great order after the work and all systems are a go for next Saturday. Click here for the Bing Crosby nominations.

Funny how the trainer always have them going quicker!

Trainer's happy, that's what you want. All good.

[str]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Real Savvy Workout Report
https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...1490874468.mp4
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Real Savvy breezed a half mile in :49.16 this morning over the Saratoga main track. Your son of Authentic worked (inside) in company with Escapades, breezing head and head to the wire and proved best on the gallop out.
As we reported in yesterday’s update, we are going to consider entering Real Savvy for a NY-bred maiden special weight on August 1st as a main track only entrant.
Assistant trainer Miguel Clement provided a quick update which can be seen above in addition to the work.

Within himself all the way. Just what you want.

[JBEX]

Nice call JBEX !

missed this ..thanks str

[JBEX]

saratoga R2 #9 army proud (6-1)

2yo 1st time starter..guess who daddy is


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[str]

saratoga R2 #9 army proud (6-1)

2yo 1st time starter..guess who daddy is


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That race looks like it could be sneaky good JBEX.

With the 10 presumably out near the front early, he will have a fair outside run it looks like on paper.

A few firsters in there besides him that have indications of talent.

Obvious is the 1, 3, 7.
More subtle , the 5.

Even the 6 a little, with that hard bump, but Prat got off him to ride the 7.

Cool race.

[JBEX]

That race looks like it could be sneaky good JBEX.

With the 10 presumably out near the front early, he will have a fair outside run it looks like on paper.

A few firsters in there besides him that have indications of talent.

Obvious is the 1, 3, 7.
More subtle , the 5.

Even the 6 a little, with that hard bump, but Prat got off him to ride the 7.

Cool race.

perfect trip but nothing left in the stretch .. I thought he didn't switch leads till late in the race but never sure I see this right

[str]

perfect trip but nothing left in the stretch .. I thought he didn't switch leads till late in the race but never sure I see this right

Stayed on the left lead all the way through the stretch. Was tired from that do doubt.

Didn't see the prices but that 5 horse was a hidden gem. Rosario up on that firster from a non descript trainer with some very impressive works in between maintenance stuff caught my eye. Ran very well at a nice price.

Thanks JBEX.