Tampa 4-1 contest

josicoyote · 04-01-11, 11:52 AM

Nice hit Terry. Hit the exacta too.

TonyP · 04-01-11, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by mikemca

nice pick terry...the 2 was way the best...could have ran all day

yeah Terry nice pick . comes off the turf figured he would pick up what was backing up didnt figure he could get up in time for the win.

terrygolf1313 · 04-01-11, 12:00 PM

Thanks mike AND JOSI

mikemca · 04-01-11, 12:03 PM

Bomb in the 1st at Gulf 3---$93.60---$28.40---$10.00

TonyP · 04-01-11, 12:24 PM

anyone seen my 3 in race 3 cross finish line yet. THink the kids got there pic taken with this one.

TonyP · 04-01-11, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by mikemca

Bomb in the 1st at Gulf 3---$93.60---$28.40---$10.00

did you hit it Mke?

BuckeyeT · 04-01-11, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

anyone seen my 3 in race 3 cross finish line yet. THink the kids got there pic taken with this one.

I think i saw him somewhere still in the backstrtch with the little monkey with the cowboy hat on him. lol

mikemca · 04-01-11, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

did you hit it Mke?

nah didn't bet yet today...waiting for pick 6

Gremlin Lad · 04-01-11, 12:54 PM

TonyP.... When you bet a 1 or 1a entry at track or at otb, you get both entries unless a part of entry is scratched...then you still have the other part.

Only time it is a complete scratch is if one of the coupled entries is scratched at the gate.

1a was a scratch ..however the 1 ran. therefore I feel ouaj 3) 1a,7--scratch 1a$7.60

should not be awarded.

Commit ?

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 01:02 PM

he specifically was asking for the 1a, which was scratched leaving him with the 7. I think its clear ouaj should get awarded the $

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

anyone seen my 3 in race 3 cross finish line yet. THink the kids got there pic taken with this one.

I'm in that camp too

I think we should get credit for the first donkey to cross the finishing line though

Gremlin Lad · 04-01-11, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

he specifically was asking for the 1a, which was scratched leaving him with the 7. I think its clear ouaj should get awarded the $

If that is the case, then we should be posting the horse we like in a coupled entry on all situlations on just the entry like 2,2b or 1,1a post only ONE of the entries.

TonyP · 04-01-11, 01:20 PM

race 5 tri 5,6/5,6,3,4,9,11/all

TonyP · 04-01-11, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

race 5 tri 5,6/5,6,3,4,9,11/all

was worried about that 11

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Gremlin Lad

If that is the case, then we should be posting the horse we like in a coupled entry on all situlations on just the entry like 2,2b or 1,1a post only ONE of the entries.

Don't agree with you there, this was a special case. This is clearly an exception, don't think we need to rewrite the rules for it.

Generally people like having multiple horses in these paired offerings, but if only one has a legit shot (like this one), then they shouldn't be stuck with the second half.

ouajl · 04-01-11, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Gremlin Lad

TonyP.... When you bet a 1 or 1a entry at track or at otb, you get both entries unless a part of entry is scratched...then you still have the other part.

Only time it is a complete scratch is if one of the coupled entries is scratched at the gate.

1a was a scratch ..however the 1 ran. therefore I feel ouaj 3) 1a,7--scratch 1a$7.60

should not be awarded.

Commit ?

You can take it out, it doesn't matter to me, but i specifically stated 1a, I cap by horse and 1a was my top choice, but horse 1 was way down my list that is why I didn't post 1/1a. Just tell me how to state it in the future and I will get it done!
Again, if you want to take the 7.60 away, not a problem, but I did cash a ticket on the #7 for real money

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

was worried about that 11

yep me too.

Gremlin Lad · 04-01-11, 01:35 PM

State racing and wagering rules say you are stuck with the coupled entry unless it is a scratch at the gate...

Whatever...never cared much for Tampa Bay.....

TonyP · 04-01-11, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Gremlin Lad

TonyP.... When you bet a 1 or 1a entry at track or at otb, you get both entries unless a part of entry is scratched...then you still have the other part.

Only time it is a complete scratch is if one of the coupled entries is scratched at the gate.

1a was a scratch ..however the 1 ran. therefore I feel ouaj 3) 1a,7--scratch 1a$7.60

should not be awarded.

Commit ?

alright since we have no rules on this subject he gets other part of entry.

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 01:39 PM

Go Gators!

TonyP · 04-01-11, 01:40 PM

what should the rule on coupled entries be now? one you pick 1 you get 1/1a or you make it specific then if scratched you get your alt. what do you think?

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

alright since we have no rules on this subject he gets other part of entry.

Don't like that ruling one bit. Makes it very difficult to play these paired entries, since often they cut out the better half, which leaves us stuck with the donkey.

Should have the option to opt out, imo.

oh well ouaj cashed his ticket

Gremlin Lad · 04-01-11, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

alright since we have no rules on this subject he gets other part of entry.

TonyP..this is your contest ( or Mikemca's ) .. you can make the call.....I just put it out there for an opinionated answer.

Other bigger contests we will be in... you get both halves of the entry....Scratch or no scratch.....that is what the gamble is.

TonyP · 04-01-11, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

Don't like that ruling one bit. Makes it very difficult to play these paired entries, since often they cut out the better half, which leaves us stuck with the donkey.

Should have the option to opt out, imo.

oh well ouaj cashed his ticket

thats how I feel to. dont like getting stuck with a donkey. What is wrong with these trainers they normaly scratch the better one.

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

thats how I feel to. dont like getting stuck with a donkey. What is wrong with these trainers they normaly scratch the better one.

seems like a game they are playing with the bettors, wonder if they ever intend to run them in the first place.

I hit exacta

TonyP · 04-01-11, 01:54 PM

have to go get some reading glasses now be back to update in a while. playing late pk4 and put in a pk3 in the sequence also.

BBROBOZO · 04-01-11, 02:02 PM

Gremblin Lad

Originally posted by Gremlin Lad

State racing and wagering rules say you are stuck with the coupled entry unless it is a scratch at the gate...

Whatever...never cared much for Tampa Bay.....

Rules are somewhat loose at this forum / contest .
I've always been a rules are rules kinda guy. That comment was made to me once by a golfer.... rules are rules , it struck me as somewhat funny , it was the way he said it , I guess !
Of course we play by rules .
In golf they tend to help the player when in doubt if there is an infraction .
The same applies here .
If you want the #1 entry , you post it that way #1e .... this means that both entries need to scratch in order to go to an alt.
If you specify the #1 or the #1a and the one that you specified is scratched then you get the alt if you have posted an alt .... I still don't know which one you get if both is scratched .... post time fav or the ml fav .... I know that a player should get the ml fav because you should not receive a post time fav because the post time fav may get heavy action and may be a hot horse even if the horse was , lets say 10 /1 in the ml .
I don't think it would be fair for a player to get a horse that has been bet down to a post time fav.
That's how I feel .

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 02:14 PM

early pick 4 for gulfstream was 39.80

That has to be a first

mikemca · 04-01-11, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by TonyP

alright since we have no rules on this subject he gets other part of entry.

This has came up before and we decided as long as you made it clear then you could seperate the entries.For example if you post 1a then you only get 1a but if you post just 1 then treat it as 1e.I'll find the thread.I think it was Bbrobozo that wanted it cleared up.

TonyP · 04-01-11, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by BBROBOZO

Rules are somewhat loose at this forum / contest .
I've always been a rules are rules kinda guy. That comment was made to me once by a golfer.... rules are rules , it struck me as somewhat funny , it was the way he said it , I guess !
Of course we play by rules .
In golf they tend to help the player when in doubt if there is an infraction .
The same applies here .
If you want the #1 entry , you post it that way #1e .... this means that both entries need to scratch in order to go to an alt.
If you specify the #1 or the #1a and the one that you specified is scratched then you get the alt if you have posted an alt .... I still don't know which one you get if both is scratched .... post time fav or the ml fav .... I know that a player should get the ml fav because you should not receive a post time fav because the post time fav may get heavy action and may be a hot horse even if the horse was , lets say 10 /1 in the ml .
I don't think it would be fair for a player to get a horse that has been bet down to a post time fav.
That's how I feel .

dont think anyone has ever had a question on this. We will make a rule for future contest base on what everyone wants. If both your picks get scratched you get the post time fave.

TonyP · 04-01-11, 02:25 PM

we will see if the outcome from that race will effect the contest.

mikemca · 04-01-11, 02:32 PM

I found the thread it is HAWTHORNE 10-15---6--point contest.I'll bump the thread so you can read it

josicoyote · 04-01-11, 02:57 PM

Good pick Tony on the 7 in the 8th race.

TonyP · 04-01-11, 03:00 PM

not trying to red board here just letting you know I am alive in pk3 and pk4 with the 7 winning race 8

Poppa Catfish · 04-01-11, 03:00 PM

Great call in race 8