Does anyone know if Ramon Dominguez knows how to read..

**str** · 12-30-10, 03:40 PM

I was taught by one of the best and he always stressed attention to detail.
Not only in the barn but in the paddock.He would point out the speed numbers and other jocks on the program to the rider and would have written down the instructions on the program as well. He would repeat the instructions 2,3 and sometimes 4 times to the jockey.None of this Hi how you doing crap.
I asked him one day why he constantly repeated the instructions over and over to the jocks .He said that they were going to have to remember them for more than 10 minutes and he never met one that could if you only said it once.
He was right!
Guess I won some races because the rider thought of the right thing to do during the race but I know I lost a ton of them because the rider thought period.
Very frustrating.
Not the rider in the avatar and not a few others that I knew but 95% of them for sure.

**Brewers in 7** · 12-30-10, 03:59 PM

it is very frustrating to handicap a card, come up with a few horses, then watch as a horse you figured would be forwardly placed or on the lead, race 7 of 8 horses, 6 wide into both turns, into a 25 1/4 and a 49 and change half...

**str** · 12-30-10, 04:03 PM

I would have wanted to kill if that had happened to me.
Two things to watch for.
Rider change next time and how quickly the horse comes back.
Also, does he ride regularly for the trainer?Horse could have warmed up funny and if he had no trust in the outfit,that could have come into play.
I feel your pain.

**Brewers in 7** · 12-30-10, 06:05 PM

It was one of those races 1 1/16, where you knew in the 1st turn you had no shot, then you get false hope when he goes from 7th to 4th in 2 strides, then flattens out in the next stride at 2-1.. my guess is next time he'll wire the field at 5-1.. ill be watching

**str** · 12-30-10, 07:11 PM

Hopefully with a bug that listens to instructions.
Or a speed rider.
Make the lead,walk the dog.

**Gremlin Lad** · 12-30-10, 08:58 PM

You guys are looking at the Classic New York Circuit.

I am not saying it is race fixing ( that is illegal) BUT they are definitely working their darnest to get purse $$ to the barns that need the $$ to get them thru this Winter meet.

For example: Finger Lakes trainer had three horses entered today (Thursday 12/30) at Aqueduct. ...All three horses won their race.. How WONDERFUL !!!!!!

Then again R D has not been riding for over a week....maybe he is scared (?) or just lost his competitive edge.

**gtkid911** · 12-31-10, 02:23 AM

Englehart has been on fire at the A, but Dominguez gets knocked down to even money or less every horse he gets on. Its sorta ridiculous

**str** · 12-31-10, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Gremlin Lad

You guys are looking at the Classic New York Circuit.

I am not saying it is race fixing ( that is illegal) BUT they are definitely working their darnest to get purse $$ to the barns that need the $$ to get them thru this Winter meet.

For example: Finger Lakes trainer had three horses entered today (Thursday 12/30) at Aqueduct. ...All three horses won their race.. How WONDERFUL !!!!!!

Then again R D has not been riding for over a week....maybe he is scared (?) or just lost his competitive edge.

Nobody ever felt sorry for me or any of my colleagues when times were tough.
That doesn't really exist.

**madmaxx** · 12-31-10, 11:49 AM

not sure how he is up for an Eclipse Award. I think Rosario has become the best rider in the country with Bejarano right there...but I'm SoCal biased

**sq764** · 12-31-10, 02:11 PM

he's the 2nd leading rider in the country... this is a ridiculous thread

**Seattle Slew** · 01-01-11, 12:09 AM

I'd take Garrett Gomez over anybody in a big race, with Bejarano second. Cornelio Velasquez is also a top rider who doesn't get the credit he deserves. I don't ever recall getting a bad ride from him.

Originally posted by madmaxx

not sure how he is up for an Eclipse Award. I think Rosario has become the best rider in the country with Bejarano right there...but I'm SoCal biased

**unusialsusp5** · 01-01-11, 08:43 AM

they don't have the time to read drf before every mount. everything changes anyway when they leave the starting gate. all the best laid plans go awry if someone cuts you off trying to get the lead or the jock changes his mind at the last second or any number of things can happen at that precise moment. just throw out the chalk and keep betting and don't worry about it.

**str** · 01-01-11, 10:18 AM

Jockeys reading the DRF.

That is a scary thought.
Sometimes things do not go as planned but the majority of the time they do.

**thezbar** · 01-01-11, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by madmaxx

not sure how he is up for an Eclipse Award. I think Rosario has become the best rider in the country with Bejarano right there...but I'm SoCal biased

I think Rosario is better at Hollywood and Bejarano is better At Santa Anita. Rosario reminds me of a young Victor Espinosa. He has a tendancy to try and circle the field on the turn and use his strength to get to the wire first. Somethings it backfires. R.B. is a better race rider IMO. He has a natural gift. His one weakness is out of the gate. There are several riders who are better {P.Val. T. Baze**. Yet overall J.R. and R.B. are several notches above the rest. Go-Go Is right there also but I think the shoulder injury is still bothering him. One thing I've noticed is for being the two two jocks in the room they don't finish one two in the races as often as you would think they should.Just saying.

**madmaxx** · 01-01-11, 12:24 PM

I like Alan Garcia too.

Alonso Quinonez keeps getting better and will be up there with the top flight jockeys eventually.

**Brewers in 7** · 01-02-11, 03:47 PM

hes done it on 2 in a row here at aqueduct, speed horses who he dragged back and was OTB.. last one was a joke as he broke a length in front with a need the lead horses, grabbed him and drug him back to 6th 6 lengths off the lead.. never got closer than that..

**madmaxx** · 01-02-11, 11:35 PM

Its strange..this thread has been on my mind the last few days so I focus on Dominguez more than usual (he usually rides the favorite anyway). Sometimes he looks like the best jockey in the country and other times he puts out a completely horrible ride...wonder where the lack of consistency comes from.

**thezbar** · 01-02-11, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by madmaxx

Its strange..this thread has been on my mind the last few days so I focus on Dominguez more than usual (he usually rides the favorite anyway). Sometimes he looks like the best jockey in the country and other times he puts out a completely horrible ride...wonder where the lack of consistency comes from.

I've noticed the same thing. A couple seasons ago he was golden on everything. I think the fact that he has made it into the elite group of riders has something to do with it. He is not as hungry as he once was. Some of his placement of horses seems odd. Even so he gets his pick of the mounts regardless. Or perhaps the connections are telling him to do this. Its possible they are happy to keep their conditions and just want to purse nibble?

**gtkid911** · 01-03-11, 12:32 AM

Dominguez has been horrible this year and his rides have been

Cant bet him either since he is always on favorites

**gtkid911** · 01-03-11, 12:36 AM

englehart has also been killing it. he has a live one on wednesday i believe

**madmaxx** · 01-03-11, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by thezbar

Even so he gets his pick of the mounts regardless. Or perhaps the connections are telling him to do this. Its possible they are happy to keep their conditions and just want to purse nibble?

Its possible the connections want to remain at the level but I doubt it. Regarding the fact that he still gets to choose his mounts (like Bejarano/Rosario here, D. Parker in WV, Baze in NoCal, etc...), is this a credit to him or is the jockey pool outside of the elite riders at each track so poor?

On another note, Daniel Centeno wins every effing race.

**ATP123** · 01-03-11, 02:43 PM

funny i find him to be the bets jock in the country

**sq764** · 01-03-11, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by gtkid911

Dominguez has been horrible this year and his rides have been

Cant bet him either since he is always on favorites

how can one be 'horrible' yet finish 2nd in the country in wins and basically hand pick the horses he wants to ride?

**ATP123** · 01-08-11, 04:37 PM

i still have a love for ramon, nice 5bagger today

**ATP123** · 01-08-11, 07:46 PM

404

http://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/stories/Jan082011.shtml

**ukbro00** · 01-08-11, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by str

Jockeys reading the DRF.

That is a scary thought.
Sometimes things do not go as planned but the majority of the time they do.

I can personally attest that 99% of the Jockeys on the NYRA circuit read the DRF for their mounts.

**str** · 01-09-11, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by ukbro00

I can personally attest that 99% of the Jockeys on the NYRA circuit read the DRF for their mounts.

Oh yes,they read the DRF.No question about it.
But,there is NO WAY I would have let 95% of the jockeys come up with a plan on how to ride my horses when I was training.
If I am spending every moment I possibly can thinking and worrying about my horses for 3-4 weeks,when it comes time for them to run,they are going to ride them (as long as things go to plan) the way I tell them to.Not the way they want to.