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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23444

    #841
    bel

    R2 #5 stage name (7-2)
    R3 #6 penthouse party (7-5).. 2nd @4-5
    R4 #6 benny's bullet (6-1)..WON $16.80
    R5 #6 miadora (5-1)
    R6 #3 tasmona (6-1)..3rd @ 4-1 (missed 2nd by head)
    R8 #7 papy (3-1)
    R9 #8 takajo (4-1).. WON $11.20
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    • JBEX
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-02-12
      • 23444

      #842
      wo

      R2 #4 ring for rosy (7-2)
      R5 #2 raise a glass (12-1)
      R7 #2 san nicola charm (12-1)
      R8 #5 tarty to the party (2-1).. WON $5
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      • Easy-Rider 66
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-14-12
        • 36104

        #843
        Originally posted by JBEX
        Sorry couldn't get back to you in time but she didn't do much
        anyway..As I've said a few times in this thread I don't wager
        just cap..
        Most of the time of course you're not going to hit
        35-1's so if you bet recommend betting a third to a half your
        normal bet. I don't feel you get value in the show pool. I'd key
        the horse in triples and maybe supers with 3-5 logicals in the
        other spots. Some exactas maybe.. Of course all of these is too
        much so I kind of like the tri and super strategy the best in this
        case.. Thanks for the good word
        Hey Jbex I understand you do not wager real $$. But why not put those 1700 points you have to use and bet some in the race book. I mean it's for free and you can have a bit more skin in the game. GO pro and you can turn those points into something. Just a thought.
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        • JBEX
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 23444

          #844
          Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
          Hey Jbex I understand you do not wager real $$. But why not put those 1700 points you have to use and bet some in the race book. I mean it's for free and you can have a bit more skin in the game. GO pro and you can turn those points into something. Just a thought.
          Not a bad idea.. will consider.. for the most part I just enjoy
          posting
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          • JBEX
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-02-12
            • 23444

            #845
            bel

            R1 #6 kato (3-1)
            R2 #3 saved the best (8-1)
            R4 #10 treasured (3-1)
            R5 #6 hidden warrior (7-2)
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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 23444

              #846
              AP

              R9 #8 call me west (7-2)

              CD

              R5 #5 goodtime annie (7-2)
              R6 #4 crissy field (9-2)
              R8 #4 star channel (9-2)
              R10 #3 helen kathleen (4-1)
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              • JBEX
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 23444

                #847
                bel

                R1 #1 beauty sisters (22-1..39 mtp)
                R2 #6 willow u (10-1) #9 chow fun (6-1)
                R3 #1 alpaca fina (2-1)
                R4 #9 royal jest (2-1)
                R5 #2 all my trails (20-1) #5 uptown joe (6-1)
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                • JBEX
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 23444

                  #848
                  bel

                  R7 #3 walk close (4-1)
                  R8 #3 love to score (3-1)
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                  • JBEX
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 23444

                    #849
                    bel

                    R9 #8 merry meadow (4-1)
                    R10 #7 socialsaul (12-1)
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                    • JBEX
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-02-12
                      • 23444

                      #850
                      Originally posted by JBEX
                      bel

                      R1 #1 beauty sisters (22-1..39 mtp)
                      R2 #6 willow u (10-1) #9 chow fun (6-1)
                      R3 #1 alpaca fina (2-1)
                      R4 #9 royal jest (2-1)
                      R5 #2 all my trails (20-1) #5 uptown joe (6-1)
                      R2 exacta 96 paid $157
                      R4 WON $4.80
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                      • JBEX
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-02-12
                        • 23444

                        #851
                        Originally posted by jbex
                        bel

                        r7 #3 walk close (4-1)
                        r8 #3 love to score (3-1)
                        r7.. Won $10.60
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                        • JBEX
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 23444

                          #852
                          Originally posted by JBEX
                          bel

                          R9 #8 merry meadow (4-1)
                          R10 #7 socialsaul (12-1)
                          R9 2nd by nose @ 5-1
                          R10 pulled up on the turn
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                          • JBEX
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-02-12
                            • 23444

                            #853
                            SA R9 #2 venetian (12-1)
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                            • JBEX
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 23444

                              #854
                              Originally posted by JBEX
                              SA R9 #2 venetian (12-1)
                              3rd @ 29-1
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                              • JBEX
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-02-12
                                • 23444

                                #855
                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                bel

                                R1 #6 kato (3-1)
                                R2 #3 saved the best (8-1)
                                R4 #10 treasured (3-1)
                                R5 #6 hidden warrior (7-2)
                                R4.. WON $5.60
                                R5.. 2nd @ 5-2
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                                • JBEX
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 23444

                                  #856
                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                  Sorry couldn't get back to you in time but she didn't do much
                                  anyway..As I've said a few times in this thread I don't wager
                                  just cap.. Most of the time of course you're not going to hit
                                  35-1's so if you bet recommend betting a third to a half your
                                  normal bet. I don't feel you get value in the show pool. I'd key
                                  the horse in triples and maybe supers with 3-5 logicals in the
                                  other spots. Some exactas maybe.. Of course all of these is too
                                  much so I kind of like the tri and super strategy the best in this
                                  case.. Thanks for the good word
                                  The last at SA a good example of this.. If you keyed venetian in 3rd
                                  with the top 3 in triples for $6 you get back $202.Maybe you have 3
                                  $2 exactas also and a $3 win bet. Of course this makes the return on
                                  the bet if he wins about 5-1 but the more likely result is 2nd or 3rd
                                  and you'll cash more of those when these horses do run well and the
                                  logicals fill the top 2 spots
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                                  • chaka
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-29-09
                                    • 437

                                    #857
                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                    The last at SA a good example of this.. If you keyed venetian in 3rd
                                    with the top 3 in triples for $6 you get back $202.Maybe you have 3
                                    $2 exactas also and a $3 win bet. Of course this makes the return on
                                    the bet if he wins about 5-1 but the more likely result is 2nd or 3rd
                                    and you'll cash more of those when these horses do run well and the
                                    logicals fill the top 2 spots
                                    i played Venetian for show and win on the way home- caught the race on ipad in the car..i was really surprised it only paid $ 8 for show

                                    i got home and popped in my Dick Mitchell Betting Strategies DVD and he illustrated that playing longshots as place and show bets is for "suckers".
                                    jokingly he said he would "burn our houses down if he caught us betting longshots to show". on top of track takeout you get gouged for another roughly 2/3 of should be profit
                                    his example was a 30:1 shot to win that paid back 5:1 when it should pay back in the 12-15:1 range based on the generality of show is roughly 1/4 of win and place is somewhere in the middle of the two.

                                    The irony of my situation led me to post this as i got 3:1 plus my $ 2 back

                                    Mitchell says place and show bets are best used for favorites getting overlaid returns

                                    so JBex your example is how I shouldve played it and will going forward now i know the right way to play. while still making $ 2 win bet. As a rookie the thought of keying in 3rd spot only never crossed my mind. Thanks for pointing that out
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                                    • JBEX
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 23444

                                      #858
                                      Originally posted by chaka
                                      i played Venetian for show and win on the way home- caught the race on ipad in the car..i was really surprised it only paid $ 8 for show

                                      i got home and popped in my Dick Mitchell Betting Strategies DVD and he illustrated that playing longshots as place and show bets is for "suckers".
                                      jokingly he said he would "burn our houses down if he caught us betting longshots to show". on top of track takeout you get gouged for another roughly 2/3 of should be profit
                                      his example was a 30:1 shot to win that paid back 5:1 when it should pay back in the 12-15:1 range based on the generality of show is roughly 1/4 of win and place is somewhere in the middle of the two.

                                      The irony of my situation led me to post this as i got 3:1 plus my $ 2 back

                                      Mitchell says place and show bets are best used for favorites getting overlaid returns

                                      so JBex your example is how I shouldve played it and will going forward now i know the right way to play. while still making $ 2 win bet. As a rookie the thought of keying in 3rd spot only never crossed my mind. Thanks for pointing that out
                                      I used to get stuff from DM.. possible I even learned about this strategy from
                                      him but not sure. He was a little too mechanical for me with handicapping
                                      methods but structuring wagers and money mgmt I thought he was good if I remember
                                      correctly. Also mark cramer, James Quinn, Steve Davidovitz are all good reads. Liked
                                      Beyer on Speed (his last one I believe) also.. Glad able to help
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                                      • JBEX
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-02-12
                                        • 23444

                                        #859
                                        Bel R6 #4 silky (9-5)

                                        In my sire ratings book the highest stamina rating 1** probably
                                        represented by about 1/2% of the thousands of sires in there.
                                        the sire and dam sire of this horse have that rating
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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23444

                                          #860
                                          bel

                                          R7 #2 four directions (4-1)
                                          R8 #1 missy bay (12-1) and #3 selenite (8-1)
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                                          • JBEX
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23444

                                            #861
                                            SA

                                            R6 #1 senso (3-1) #4 hp (half unit)
                                            R8 exacta 19/4
                                            R9 #1 robert e lee (5-1)
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                                            • JBEX
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 23444

                                              #862
                                              Originally posted by jbex
                                              bel

                                              r7 #2 four directions (4-1)
                                              r8 #1 missy bay (12-1) and #3 selenite (8-1)
                                              r7.. Won $7.60
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                                              • JBEX
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23444

                                                #863
                                                bel

                                                R1 #3 wild skye (4-1) #8 lane allen (4-1) (half unit)
                                                R2 #9 trainingforsuccess (8-1)
                                                R3 #5 haverhill (8-5)
                                                R4 #3 macagone (2-1)
                                                R8 #3 roses for romney (4-1)
                                                R9 #7 with expression (4-1) #1 winnitude (20-1) (half unit)

                                                No play sloppy or muddy or off the turf
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                                                • ADare954
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 06-24-14
                                                  • 1

                                                  #864
                                                  [QUOTE=JBEX;22128981]bel

                                                  R1 #3 wild skye (4-1) #8 lane allen (4-1) (half unit)
                                                  R2 #9 trainingforsuccess (8-1)
                                                  R3 #5 haverhill (8-5)
                                                  R4 #3 macagone (2-1)
                                                  R8 #3 roses for romney (4-1)
                                                  R9 #7 with expression (4-1) #1 winnitude (20-1) (half unit)

                                                  No play sloppy or muddy or off the turf[/QUOTE

                                                  Are these plays for today?
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                                                  • JBEX
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                    • 23444

                                                    #865
                                                    [QUOTE=ADare954;22129105]
                                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                                    bel

                                                    R1 #3 wild skye (4-1) #8 lane allen (4-1) (half unit)
                                                    R2 #9 trainingforsuccess (8-1)
                                                    R3 #5 haverhill (8-5)
                                                    R4 #3 macagone (2-1)
                                                    R8 #3 roses for romney (4-1)
                                                    R9 #7 with expression (4-1) #1 winnitude (20-1) (half unit)

                                                    No play sloppy or muddy or off the turf[/QUOTE

                                                    Are these plays for today?
                                                    tomorrow
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                                                    • JBEX
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 23444

                                                      #866
                                                      del

                                                      R8 #3 hobe wins (4-1)

                                                      300k yearling, sire and dam sire above average first out producers, solid work pattern which includes some really quick moves.. Top jock and trainer
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                                                      • JBEX
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 23444

                                                        #867
                                                        wo

                                                        R5 #6 vinari (3-1)
                                                        R7 #3 jimmy chew (20-1) (half unit)
                                                        R7 #11 shannon's posse (4-1)
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                                                        • tlafer
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 06-20-09
                                                          • 142

                                                          #868
                                                          Hey Jbex nice hit on Winnitude at 25-1!
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                                                          • JBEX
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 23444

                                                            #869
                                                            Originally posted by tlafer
                                                            Hey Jbex nice hit on Winnitude at 25-1!
                                                            Thanks... nice to get those every once in a while
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                                                            • JBEX
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23444

                                                              #870
                                                              Originally posted by JBEX
                                                              del

                                                              R8 #3 hobe wins (4-1)

                                                              300k yearling, sire and dam sire above average first out producers, solid work pattern which includes some really quick moves.. Top jock and trainer
                                                              won $7
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23444

                                                                #871
                                                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                bel

                                                                R1 #3 wild skye (4-1) #8 lane allen (4-1) (half unit)
                                                                R2 #9 trainingforsuccess (8-1)
                                                                R3 #5 haverhill (8-5)
                                                                R4 #3 macagone (2-1)
                                                                R8 #3 roses for romney (4-1)
                                                                R9 #7 with expression (4-1) #1 winnitude (20-1) (half unit)

                                                                No play sloppy or muddy or off the turf
                                                                R1 #8 won $4.20
                                                                R2 3rd @ 5-1
                                                                R3 scratch
                                                                R4 won $4.30
                                                                R8 very sad
                                                                R9 #1 won $52.50 #7.. 3rd @ 4-1
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                                                                • JBEX
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 23444

                                                                  #872
                                                                  bel

                                                                  R6 #4 charity reigns (5-1)
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                                                                  • JBEX
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 23444

                                                                    #873
                                                                    SA

                                                                    R5 #1 cernobbio (7-2)
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                                                                    • JBEX
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 23444

                                                                      #874
                                                                      SA R8 #8 philanderer (3-1)
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23444

                                                                        #875
                                                                        bel

                                                                        R2 #5 chase my tail (2-1)
                                                                        R3 #2 sunday sonnet (5-1)
                                                                        R4 #3 jilly mac (4-1) #2 dx gem (15-1..half unit)
                                                                        R5 #2 quiet sunshine (2-1)
                                                                        R6 #3 gentrify (15-1)
                                                                        R7 #8 thnxtomyuncle (10-1)
                                                                        R8 #3 watery moon (8-1) #9 j croft (4-1.. half unit)
                                                                        R9 #5 baskets (4-1..half unit)
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