******Last Year +42 Units On Totals ******

[doubledime]

Regular Play Totals:

Yesterday: 0

YTD: 45 - 35.5 -.10 units



Sides:

Yesterday: 1-1

YTD: 12.5-9.5 +3.65 units



Ref Plays: (tracking)

Yesterday: 2-0

YTD: 75.5- 68

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Thank you everyone, very generous.

[doubledime]

Lol, do you know anything about DD or who picks sides? He’s made me over 10 grand in 2 years with all his posts!!!!

Thanks matt, and thanks for your generous points. I am glad it has worked out for you.

[doubledime]

I think DD is a great poster but he would probably agree that 1-1 -0.25 is not "another great night"?
But you are entitled to your opinion.

You're right Mike, 1-1 is not good, but I think some people are playing the Ref Plays, and if they did last night, they went 2-0.
Always good to hear you check in

[ZenShiny]

Can someone explain is there any advantage doing sides -1 versus splitting ML and PL?

[matt711]

Thanks for all you do, missed that $50 4 team parlay though, lol

[matt711]

I think DD is a great poster but he would probably agree that 1-1 -0.25 is not "another great night"?
But you are entitled to your opinion.

Ref plays 2-0 = 3-1 day , Fact

[dino0224]

Regular Play Totals:

Yesterday: 0

YTD: 45 - 35.5 -.10 units



Sides:

Yesterday: 1-1

YTD: 12.5-9.5 +3.65 units



Ref Plays: (tracking)

Yesterday: 2-0

YTD: 75.5- 68

Thanks DD for all you do. My sportsbook doesn't offer minus 1 on games, but the past few i have played the minus 1.5 and have hit them!

[owl]

Can someone explain is there any advantage doing sides -1 versus splitting ML and PL?

You can get it to come out exactly to -1 (or at least within cents) by using the ml and pl. The good news is the line comes out better than the book's offering at -1 the vast majority of the time. The same thing applies to -1 run in mlb.

[LVDean]

You can get it to come out exactly to -1 (or at least within cents) by using the ml and pl. The good news is the line comes out better than the book's offering at -1 the vast majority of the time. The same thing applies to -1 run in mlb.

Quick question Owl. I hate to sound stupid but can you go into a little more detail
? Do you place a bet on the ml and also one on the pl and that evens out to -1?

[owl]

Quick question Owl. I hate to sound stupid but can you go into a little more detail
? Do you place a bet on the ml and also one on the pl and that evens out to -1?

Do you have a book that offers the pl and -1?

[Mike Huntertz]

Ref plays 2-0 = 3-1 day , Fact

Another great night for YOU, not for DD.
Congrats to you.

[owl]

Quick question Owl. I hate to sound stupid but can you go into a little more detail
? Do you place a bet on the ml and also one on the pl and that evens out to -1?

Right now a book has on a game ml -145, pl +185 and -1 +112.

ML = R 51 to W 35

PL = R 35 to W 65

Combined = R 86 to W 100 = +116. $4 better than +112.

If the team wins by 1, you end up winning 35 and losing 35.

[hockey129]

Another great night for YOU, not for DD.
Congrats to you.

What are you smoking ? DD posts his ref plays and regular plays. They are different “systems”. So overall he was 3-1 last night. How exactly is that not a great night for DD?

[owl]

I start with the 'plus $'. If i am trying to win 100 i divide that by 2 which is 50. Then i estimated what amount multiplied by 1.85 which is then added to the estimated amount will come out to about 100. i adjust the estimated amount based on whether it comes out too different than 100. Then i do the math again to see if it comes out close enough to 100.

[owl]

If you wanted to risk 100, then you start with the 'minus $'. If i am risking 100 i divide that by 2 which is 50. Then i estimate what amount multiplied by 1.45, which is then added to the estimated amount, will come out to about 100. i adjust the estimated amount based on whether it comes out too different than 100. Then i do the math again to see if it comes out close enough to 100.

ML = R 59 to W 41

PL = R 41 to W 76

Combined = R 100 to W 117


If the team wins by 1, you end up winning 41 and losing 41.

[owl]

Another game today. ml -224, pl +115.

ML = 105 to W 47

PL = R 47 to W 54

Combined = R 152 to W 101

If the team wins by 1, you end up winning 47 and losing 47.

[Mike Huntertz]

What are you smoking ? DD posts his ref plays and regular plays. They are different “systems”. So overall he was 3-1 last night. How exactly is that not a great night for DD?

FWIW
I do believe tracking is not playing....I could be wrong but DD isn't wagering on the ref plays.
It is stated at the beginning of this thread.

[doubledime]

Good afternoon,

The Ref Plays:

Det/Win under 6.5
Pit/Ana under 6 split under 6.5 net -120 for those keeping track.

To clarify some of the recent chatter on the thread regarding the Ref Plays:

I began the Ref Plays using the referee data as just a simple metric to use in handicapping totals in Hockey. I wanted to track them for all to see here on SBR. There are a lot more factors when the game is actually handicapped, other than just the referees. After "juice" they are probably about a break even right now so I would not necessarily recommend playing them blindly, but rather if they match up to one's own handicapping of a game, then one may want to play them.

I hope that makes sense.

DD

[doubledime]

Good evening,

The Regular Play:

Pitt -120

Good luck

[doubledime]

If you wanted to risk 100, then you start with the 'minus $'. If i am risking 100 i divide that by 2 which is 50. Then i estimate what amount multiplied by 1.45, which is then added to the estimated amount, will come out to about 100. i adjust the estimated amount based on whether it comes out too different than 100. Then i do the math again to see if it comes out close enough to 100.

ML = R 59 to W 41

PL = R 41 to W 76

Combined = R 100 to W 117


If the team wins by 1, you end up winning 41 and losing 41.

Thanks owl for helping out, much appreciated.

[RocketFan]

Lol, do you know anything about DD or who picks sides? He’s made me over 10 grand in 2 years with all his posts!!!!

Its hard enough to bet his picks on time. I am sure you have missed many a games that the capper won. I know I have missed a ton. You profit over 10 grand at like a 54% win rate? maybe if you are betting 3k per game, which most books dont allow in nhl

[1sob]

I think DD is a great poster but he would probably agree that 1-1 -0.25 is not "another great night"?
But you are entitled to your opinion.

Hey you old fart

I think matt711 is also including the 2 ref plays that cashed .

[LVDean]

Do you have a book that offers the pl and -1?

There are three that I use. Two of them only offer ml and -1.5 pl. The other one offers ml, -1.5 pl, and -.5 pl.

[1sob]

Its hard enough to bet his picks on time. I am sure you have missed many a games that the capper won. I know I have missed a ton. You profit over 10 grand at like a 54% win rate? maybe if you are betting 3k per game, which most books dont allow in nhl

what do you mean by getting his bets on time ?? DD post gives up ample of time to get the plays in .
I know books that allows 3k per game as long as you have money in the account .
anyways DD sorry to jack your thread. lets go PIT

[LVDean]

Another game today. ml -224, pl +115.

ML = 105 to W 47

PL = R 47 to W 54

Combined = R 152 to W 101

If the team wins by 1, you end up winning 47 and losing 47.

Thank you Owl! Now it makes sense. For some reason I just couldn't see the math. Thanks again.

[owl]

There are three that I use. Two of them only offer ml and -1.5 pl. The other one offers ml, -1.5 pl, and -.5 pl.

-.5 pl is for regulation time?

[doubledime]

Good evening,

Okay, after two Tito's and water, and sipping my third here goes.................................... ..................

I think most everyone here wants to win. We all go about a bit differently, but winning is paramount for just about all of us IMHO.

That said, nobody hates losing more than me. It's bad enough I personally lose, but then I know people that follow lose also, and believe it or not, that puts additional pressure and stress on me. I'm not complaining, but it does!!

If everyone followed the simple money management principle of not playing more than 3% of your bankroll on each play, we all could manage a losing streak and "live to play another day." It took me many years to learn this myself, but once I did it wiped away 80% of the stress of losing. I still hate losing, but I handle it much better.

Finally, the absolute majority of posters on this thread I feel are good guys (maybe some are gals, I don't know) and it's my hope we keep that focus of winning paramount in our comments. I understand people get frustrated, I do too, but most of time I never take it personally, and I hope others don't either.

DD

[1sob]

-.5 pl is for regulation time?

yes owl the -0.5 line is only for regulation time only

[1sob]

Good evening,

Okay, after two Tito's and water, and sipping my third here goes.................................... ..................

I think most everyone here wants to win. We all go about a bit differently, but winning is paramount for just about all of us IMHO.

That said, nobody hates losing more than me. It's bad enough I personally lose, but then I know people that follow lose also, and believe it or not, that puts additional pressure and stress on me. I'm not complaining, but it does!!

If everyone followed the simple money management principle of not playing more than 3% of your bankroll on each play, we all could manage a losing streak and "live to play another day." It took me many years to learn this myself, but once I did it wiped away 80% of the stress of losing. I still hate losing, but I handle it much better.

Finally, the absolute majority of posters on this thread I feel are good guys (maybe some are gals, I don't know) and it's my hope we keep that focus of winning paramount in our comments. I understand people get frustrated, I do too, but most of time I never take it personally, and I hope others don't either.

DD

well said DD

[hockey129]

DD, I’ve been around 3 years with you. I’ve gone from losing money, to collecting money each year. Not sure if you know how much that changes a gamblers life. Please don’t let a few stress you and change all the stuff you do for us for absolutely NOTHING in return. Enough sappy shit, back to my captain diets. THANK YOU

[doubledime]

well said DD

[doubledime]

DD, I’ve been around 3 years with you. I’ve gone from losing money, to collecting money each year. Not sure if you know how much that changes a gamblers life. Please don’t let a few stress you and change all the stuff you do for us for absolutely NOTHING in return. Enough sappy shit, back to my captain diets. THANK YOU

[doubledime]

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Regular Play Totals:

Yesterday: 0

YTD: 45 - 35.5 -.10 units



Sides:

Yesterday: 1-0

YTD: 13.5-9.5 +4.65 units



Ref Plays: (tracking)

Yesterday: 1-1

YTD: 76.5- 69