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  • hockey216
    SBR MVP
    • 08-20-08
    • 4583

    #5006
    Originally posted by DennisGreen
    He's such a good playoff performer. 3 goals tonight, 5 in 4 games and 8 shots on net tonight

    Gonna start playing Krejci props.
    play seguin over on shots instead. krejci talented but can be inconsistent. bruins "use" (sometimes) 4line depth; they dont necessarily rely on top line. be careful with overs on top line props. boston not the 1line kind of team like some of the others. krejci only averaging 3shots/game in playoffs and only avgd 1.9 shots during season. betting over 0.5 goals is betting him to shoot 50% when he only averages 10.8%. Since he only averages 10.8%, even if he shoots 3/game instead of 1.9, thats averaging 0.324goals/game. so unless you're getting +309 on over 0.5goals (break even point), theres no value. but during 47games (not 4 playoff) he only averaged 1.9shots/game. so at 10.8%. thats 0.205 goals/game. so you'd need +488 to break even at over 0.5goals given his 47game season stats (not 4game playoffs stats [smaller sample] that values break even point at over 0.5goals at +309).

    bet over on seguin shots should be better. guy shoots 10x more than everyone on team (161 shots versus 93 kreji, 79 luic, 114 horton, 91 marchand), but is inconsistent scoring goals. dont go over on pts go over on just shots. he can score goals at times because he shoots 1million shots, but he can go cold too. see what the o/u is on shots. he avged 3.35/game during season, 4.5/game during playoffs so far. if total on seguin shots is 3, take over. you figure to at least push. i'd take over 3 as long as -135 or less. you will probably win or push 60% of time, which should show profit at -135 or less. if you take -135 or less at over3 shots there should be value. If its 3.5, you'd have to get +money to have value since only 50%chance of getting 3.35 (less than 3.5). even when he isnt scoring hes loading up shots. over shots prop better than points/goals bet. got 18shots in 4games so far with 0goals. see what kind of total shot line you get at your book. if its 3.5 or its juiced heavily at 3 maybe lay off. it probably will be because oddsmakers aren't stupid.(?) Surely they wouldn't be silly enough to make stupid probability mistakes that would let a mathematician clean them out. I don't think so. but are they? check your lines. i'll do the math. i doubt any o/u on shots or points is +EV based on season stats. books aren't stupid. would way too easy. or is it? check your lines.

    btw ive never been sold on seguin. he's got talent, but kid thinks hes hero. skates into zone 1-on-3 and tries to be wayne gretzky trying do deke through 3 guys. what always happens? defensemen both cave in, hit him down to ice, take puck. kid needs to play the SYSTEM. stop trying to be the hero. playing the hero doesn't win. the SYSTEM wins.
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    • DennisGreen
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-27-08
      • 18369

      #5007
      Friday Props

      Alex Ovechkin Over 4.5 SOG (+100)

      Henrik Zetterberg PTS + SOG Over 4.5 (+125)

      May add a regular play or two later.
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      • xraygord
        SBR MVP
        • 09-18-09
        • 2599

        #5008
        Originally posted by DennisGreen
        Friday Props



        Henrik Zetterberg PTS + SOG Over 4.5 (+125)
        Wow, that seems like a nice bet. Good prop.
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        • DennisGreen
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-27-08
          • 18369

          #5009
          Originally posted by hockey216
          play seguin over on shots instead. krejci talented but can be inconsistent. bruins "use" (sometimes) 4line depth; they dont necessarily rely on top line. be careful with overs on top line props. boston not the 1line kind of team like some of the others. krejci only averaging 3shots/game in playoffs and only avgd 1.9 shots during season. betting over 0.5 goals is betting him to shoot 50% when he only averages 10.8%. Since he only averages 10.8%, even if he shoots 3/game instead of 1.9, thats averaging 0.324goals/game. so unless you're getting +309 on over 0.5goals (break even point), theres no value. but during 47games (not 4 playoff) he only averaged 1.9shots/game. so at 10.8%. thats 0.205 goals/game. so you'd need +488 to break even at over 0.5goals given his 47game season stats (not 4game playoffs stats [smaller sample] that values break even point at over 0.5goals at +309).

          bet over on seguin shots should be better. guy shoots 10x more than everyone on team (161 shots versus 93 kreji, 79 luic, 114 horton, 91 marchand), but is inconsistent scoring goals. dont go over on pts go over on just shots. he can score goals at times because he shoots 1million shots, but he can go cold too. see what the o/u is on shots. he avged 3.35/game during season, 4.5/game during playoffs so far. if total on seguin shots is 3, take over. you figure to at least push. i'd take over 3 as long as -135 or less. you will probably win or push 60% of time, which should show profit at -135 or less. if you take -135 or less at over3 shots there should be value. If its 3.5, you'd have to get +money to have value since only 50%chance of getting 3.35 (less than 3.5). even when he isnt scoring hes loading up shots. over shots prop better than points/goals bet. got 18shots in 4games so far with 0goals. see what kind of total shot line you get at your book. if its 3.5 or its juiced heavily at 3 maybe lay off. it probably will be because oddsmakers aren't stupid.(?) Surely they wouldn't be silly enough to make stupid probability mistakes that would let a mathematician clean them out. I don't think so. but are they? check your lines. i'll do the math. i doubt any o/u on shots or points is +EV based on season stats. books aren't stupid. would way too easy. or is it? check your lines.

          btw ive never been sold on seguin. he's got talent, but kid thinks hes hero. skates into zone 1-on-3 and tries to be wayne gretzky trying do deke through 3 guys. what always happens? defensemen both cave in, hit him down to ice, take puck. kid needs to play the SYSTEM. stop trying to be the hero. playing the hero doesn't win. the SYSTEM wins.
          Good incite. Seguin seems streaky with his shots and he has no points in the series. That's a little surprising
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          • hockey216
            SBR MVP
            • 08-20-08
            • 4583

            #5010
            Originally posted by DennisGreen
            Good incite. Seguin seems streaky with his shots and he has no points in the series. That's a little surprising
            ive never been sold on seguin. good prospect. but he needs some meat on his bones. kid should put on 20lbs of muscle to add a physical component to his game. hes only 180.
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            • tombuckers
              SBR MVP
              • 03-24-12
              • 1319

              #5011
              Originally posted by hockey216
              ive never been sold on seguin. good prospect. but he needs some meat on his bones. kid should put on 20lbs of muscle to add a physical component to his game. hes a meager 180.
              Meager 180! Wouldn't mind being a lean 180!! Haha. Few years I be there haha.

              What site do you guys use for the Player prop bets????????
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              • bobbyk1133
                SBR MVP
                • 08-05-10
                • 2245

                #5012
                Originally posted by DennisGreen

                overall playoff record
                23-27-4 -$103.50

                live bets: 8-4
                +$462.50
                player props: 5-7-3
                +$130
                pucklines: 1-0
                +$60
                moneylines: 2-2
                +$30
                two teamers: 1-1
                -$49
                regulation: 0-1
                -$50
                totals: 3-3-1
                -$78
                1st period: 3-7
                -$194
                team totals: 0-2
                -$415

                How have you done live betting in previous seasons? It seems like your bread and butter.. Maybe consider making it your primary bets?
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                • swordsandtequila
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-23-12
                  • 9757

                  #5013
                  Originally posted by tombuckers
                  Meager 180! Wouldn't mind being a lean 180!! Haha. Few years I be there haha.

                  What site do you guys use for the Player prop bets????????
                  5Dimes usually has them.
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                  • DennisGreen
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-27-08
                    • 18369

                    #5014
                    Originally posted by bobbyk1133
                    How have you done live betting in previous seasons? It seems like your bread and butter.. Maybe consider making it your primary bets?
                    I think 75-80% of my profit during the regular season was from live betting

                    I usually do it when I'm actually watching the game as I'm good at predicting how it will play out. If I didn't have a family or a job it would be doable but there's just not enough hours in the day to watch games all day anymore.

                    I can do alright just predicting the results from my phone based on shots, penalties, score etc but I prefer to be watching live.
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                    • bobbyk1133
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-05-10
                      • 2245

                      #5015
                      Originally posted by DennisGreen
                      I think 75-80% of my profit during the regular season was from live betting

                      I usually do it when I'm actually watching the game as I'm good at predicting how it will play out. If I didn't have a family or a job it would be doable but there's just not enough hours in the day to watch games all day anymore.

                      I can do alright just predicting the results from my phone based on shots, penalties, score etc but I prefer to be watching live.
                      Life getting in the way of gambling? What kind of degenerate are you?

                      Yer I saw your totals from regular season. Usually people who live bet that much dig a big hole. It definitely requires a good feel for the game..
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                      • Mike Huntertz
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-19-09
                        • 11207

                        #5016
                        Originally posted by bobbyk1133
                        Life getting in the way of gambling? What kind of degenerate are you?

                        Yer I saw your totals from regular season. Usually people who live bet that much dig a big hole. It definitely requires a good feel for the game..
                        lol
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                        • snakie
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-15-11
                          • 186

                          #5017
                          That half unit I had on Maple Leafs was quite worth it (I'm a Bruins-fan)...
                          +190 was just too much imo...
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                          • DennisGreen
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-27-08
                            • 18369

                            #5018
                            Cash both player props for da sweep

                            2-0 +$225 on the day.
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                            • DennisGreen
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-27-08
                              • 18369

                              #5019
                              Originally posted by bobbyk1133
                              Life getting in the way of gambling? What kind of degenerate are you?

                              Yer I saw your totals from regular season. Usually people who live bet that much dig a big hole. It definitely requires a good feel for the game..


                              I know man the degen inside me is slowly being neutralized
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                              • DennisGreen
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-27-08
                                • 18369

                                #5020
                                overall playoff record
                                25-27-4 +$121.50


                                live bets: 8-4 +$462.50

                                player props: 7-7-3
                                +$355
                                pucklines: 1-0
                                +$60
                                moneylines: 2-2
                                +$30
                                two teamers: 1-1
                                -$49
                                regulation: 0-1
                                -$50
                                totals: 3-3-1
                                -$78
                                1st period: 3-7
                                -$194
                                team totals: 0-2
                                -$415


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                                • DennisGreen
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-27-08
                                  • 18369

                                  #5021
                                  R.I.P. Blues

                                  Kings back in domination mode once again.
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                                  • Vegas39
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 09-22-11
                                    • 30686

                                    #5022
                                    Quick was huge
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                                    • hockey216
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-20-08
                                      • 4583

                                      #5023
                                      dammit my stanley cup prop on blues 40 to win 500 is now toast. if bruins choke again then my 500 to win 7000 prop on bruins to win cup will be worthless too. if bruins blow series after being up 3-1 im gonna be pissed.

                                      correction: anything short of bruins winning stanley cup will make me pissed.
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                                      • snakie
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-15-11
                                        • 186

                                        #5024
                                        Originally posted by hockey216
                                        anything short of bruins winning stanley cup will make me pissed.
                                        That's the spirit
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                                        • jayson311
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-18-10
                                          • 900

                                          #5025
                                          Are we hammering pens TT or pens in regulation today? Gotta ask you because I am a Homer
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                                          • DennisGreen
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-27-08
                                            • 18369

                                            #5026
                                            Originally posted by jayson311
                                            Are we hammering pens TT or pens in regulation today? Gotta ask you because I am a Homer
                                            Not a big fan of road TT's over 3.5 but wouldn't be shocked if the Pens hit it. Gotta think the Isles will put up a good fight though.
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                                            • DennisGreen
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-27-08
                                              • 18369

                                              #5027
                                              Saturday Plays

                                              PIT/NYI Over 1.5 (1st) (-110)

                                              John Tavares Over 3.5 Shots (-115)
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                                              • tombuckers
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-24-12
                                                • 1319

                                                #5028
                                                Originally posted by DennisGreen
                                                Saturday Plays

                                                PIT/NYI Over 1.5 (1st) (-110)

                                                John Tavares Over 3.5 Shots (-115)
                                                Bailey over 3.5 shots - Bet you wish you had that instead after the first!
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                                                • DennisGreen
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-27-08
                                                  • 18369

                                                  #5029
                                                  Originally posted by tombuckers
                                                  Bailey over 3.5 shots - Bet you wish you had that instead after the first!
                                                  Yup

                                                  1 for Tavares at least. Hoping he picks it up in the 2nd.
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                                                  • DennisGreen
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-27-08
                                                    • 18369

                                                    #5030
                                                    There's two for Tavares. Guy's missed another two from in close too he could be at 4 already
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                                                    • DennisGreen
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-27-08
                                                      • 18369

                                                      #5031
                                                      One more shot JT!
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                                                      • snakie
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 12-15-11
                                                        • 186

                                                        #5032
                                                        Isles are outshooting Pens MASSIVELY... 30-14
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                                                        • snakie
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 12-15-11
                                                          • 186

                                                          #5033
                                                          Huge decision by Malkin!
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                                                          • DennisGreen
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-27-08
                                                            • 18369

                                                            #5034
                                                            Fcuk sakes Tavares need another shot still

                                                            Shoot mother fcuker!
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                                                            • DennisGreen
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-27-08
                                                              • 18369

                                                              #5035
                                                              Damn Tavares looked horrible in the 3rd and OT. Guy was the most gassed player on the entire team.
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                                                              • snakie
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-15-11
                                                                • 186

                                                                #5036
                                                                Oh my dear god!!
                                                                Had my money on Pens... But Isles deserved a game 7... Awesome series...
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                                                                • DennisGreen
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-27-08
                                                                  • 18369

                                                                  #5037
                                                                  1-1 -$130 on the day.

                                                                  OVERALL PLAYOFF RECORD
                                                                  26-28-4 -$8.50

                                                                  LIVE BETS: 8-4 +$462.50

                                                                  PLAYER PROPS: 7-8-3
                                                                  +$125
                                                                  PUCKLINES: 1-0
                                                                  +$60
                                                                  MONEYLINES: 2-2
                                                                  +$30
                                                                  TWO TEAMERS: 1-1
                                                                  -$49
                                                                  REGULATION: 0-1
                                                                  -$50
                                                                  TOTALS: 3-3-1
                                                                  -$78
                                                                  1ST PERIOD: 4-7
                                                                  -$94
                                                                  TEAM TOTALS: 0-2
                                                                  -$415
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                                                                  • keyboarding
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-30-09
                                                                    • 6817

                                                                    #5038
                                                                    Originally posted by hockey216
                                                                    dammit my stanley cup prop on blues 40 to win 500 is now toast. if bruins choke again then my 500 to win 7000 prop on bruins to win cup will be worthless too. if bruins blow series after being up 3-1 im gonna be pissed.

                                                                    correction: anything short of bruins winning stanley cup will make me pissed.
                                                                    I'm sure you can hedge the series bet and not lose the full $500.
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                                                                    • DennisGreen
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-27-08
                                                                      • 18369

                                                                      #5039
                                                                      Sunday Play

                                                                      NYR (-135)
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                                                                      • DennisGreen
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-27-08
                                                                        • 18369

                                                                        #5040
                                                                        Intense finish to that one but a nice win for the Rangers. Bring on game 7!
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