hey guys, can you give me any Tips on data scraping and handicapping? and also, i know people use a lot of math in gambling but really how much data needs to be collected for this math to work? i am a person geared towards math and i just wanted to know how much i had to do before i could start using the formulas for success
tips anyone?
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RaginCajunSBR Hustler
- 06-28-10
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#1tips anyone?Tags: None -
Grind-It-OutSBR Wise Guy
- 05-04-10
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#2Learn a scripting language. The more popular the language, the more widely available support will be. I personally use PHP.
Get familiar with a database. I use MySQL, which plays very nicely with PHP.
Use your favorite search engine and type in "PHP cURL screen scraping."
As for what data you should be scraping, you'll have to scour the Internet for what you think is worthwhile and what is not.Comment -
NY PlayaSBR Wise Guy
- 01-07-10
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#3stats lie, but I say take the dog most times and you will win.Comment -
RaginCajunSBR Hustler
- 06-28-10
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#4why do u say that NY playa?Comment -
TakeItSBR Wise Guy
- 04-23-10
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#5you can't beat sports with math.Comment -
SawyerSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-01-09
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#9For example, In basketbal, I'm calculating game's total (based on many factors) then comparing it with bookie's line. If line difference is >4, then I pick it as a play. This way, I manage to hit %61.63 (143-89) over 230 bets last season in NBA. (You can check out Statfox for more info)Comment -
TakeItSBR Wise Guy
- 04-23-10
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#10For example, In basketbal, I'm calculating game's total (based on many factors) then comparing it with bookie's line. If line difference is >4, then I pick it as a play. This way, I manage to hit %61.63 (143-89) over 230 bets last season in NBA. (You can check out Statfox for more info)Comment -
RaginCajunSBR Hustler
- 06-28-10
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#11Hey Takeit, can u give me some good math concepts that I can use in gambling. Or where can I find those? I wanna gamble on nba and soccerComment -
roasthawgSBR MVP
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#12Simplehtmldom for PHP makes scraping pretty easy.Comment -
TakeItSBR Wise Guy
- 04-23-10
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#13
why would it be any different for sports betting?
it takes more than just plain math...a lot more.Comment -
djiddish98SBR Sharp
- 11-13-09
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#14if you could win at gambling using math alone, it would be a simple matter to walk into any casino and come out ahead betting at craps, roulette or baccarat. but you can't do that.
why would it be any different for sports betting?
it takes more than just plain math...a lot more.
Not the same in sports betting.Comment -
djiddish98SBR Sharp
- 11-13-09
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#16
With casino games they know that they have a positive house edge on almost every player that walks in.
That is not the case with sports betting, and that's why we all congregate to forums like this.
And it primarily has to do with math in one shade or another.Comment -
TakeItSBR Wise Guy
- 04-23-10
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#17It was an analogy.
With casino games they know that they have a positive house edge on almost every player that walks in.
That is not the case with sports betting, and that's why we all congregate to forums like this.
And it primarily has to do with math in one shade or another.Comment -
IndecentSBR Wise Guy
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RuifgalmeidaSBR MVP
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In sports betting you need a bit a both math and knowing about sports dinamic, but I know people who can beat sports beting with math alone.Comment -
RuifgalmeidaSBR MVP
- 04-23-08
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#22stats analisis, computer simulation, with that alone you can find small hedge on some bets.
The wizard of odds only uses math and we find a 2% edge on over/under in MLB assuming that the games had a average of 9runs.
Ps-I am not a math guy, but if you want to beat a bookie you have too use math.Last edited by Ruifgalmeida; 07-14-10, 09:37 AM.Comment -
Grind-It-OutSBR Wise Guy
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dugbug15SBR Wise Guy
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#24for pick-6 fans. the carryover amount of $14,951 is at indiana downs today(07/14/2010).this is the last day of the meet.the pick-6 total must be given out today to all those who have the most winners on their pick-6 ticket.worh a try i would say. good luck.
p.s. the top jockey for the meet is decided today.contenders are victor lebron,goncalves,and,francisco torres.very close between these three. maybe a handicapping angle ?Comment -
RuifgalmeidaSBR MVP
- 04-23-08
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#25for pick-6 fans. the carryover amount of $14,951 is at indiana downs today(07/14/2010).this is the last day of the meet.the pick-6 total must be given out today to all those who have the most winners on their pick-6 ticket.worh a try i would say. good luck.
p.s. the top jockey for the meet is decided today.contenders are victor lebron,goncalves,and,francisco torres.very close between these three. maybe a handicapping angle ?Comment -
u21c3f6SBR Wise Guy
- 01-17-09
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#26I don't think it is off topic as it relates to the math issue.
Some (many) years ago when Jai Alai was more popular with decent size trifecta pools, math "told" me that playing the twin-tri on mandatory payout day (every Sunday) was a +EV wager especially when one wagered on certain tri combinations which either hit more frequently and/or were underbet more frequently which was also derived by math.
Joe.Comment -
jetsjets1028SBR MVP
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#272x2=4Comment -
dirk93SBR Rookie
- 10-17-09
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#28For data scraping, macros in excel work decently well. You have to format it a little but it worksComment -
RaginCajunSBR Hustler
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#29how so?Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#31
Someone has to pay the winning players moneyWhy not let it be them?
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Grind-It-OutSBR Wise Guy
- 05-04-10
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#32LT, Why even entertain them? I could see if they were trying to understand using math, say if they were on the fence. Most of these comments seem to be from the perspective of "my way is right, so do it that way"
Someone has to pay the winning players moneyWhy not let it be them?
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TakeItSBR Wise Guy
- 04-23-10
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#33i'm not saying that math isn't necessary to play the game. what i am saying is that you can't use math and only math to make money betting sports.Comment -
Grind-It-OutSBR Wise Guy
- 05-04-10
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#34
I've been successful for the past 3 years. Granted, I'm not filthy rich, but I do better than the break even point.
Do I understand the basics of the games I bet on? Absolutely. But I don't know the difference between a splitter and a curveball. I couldn't draw up a basketball play to save my life. I always get confused of the difference between fade and post routes, etc.Comment
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