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  • EmpireMaker
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-18-09
    • 15566

    #1786
    5:21pm: Two team executives, Reds president of baseball operations Dick Williams and Brewers president of baseball ops David Stearns, expressed optimism Wednesday that the owners and players will hammer something out. Williams told Jim Day of Fox Sports Ohio that “both sides want to play,” interestingly adding that he believes an agreement’s “very close” (via C. Trent Rosecrans of The Athletic). Stearns said, “I firmly believe we are going to have baseball this season” (per Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel).
    3:43pm: The two sides are seeing eye to eye on expanded playoffs and the universal DH, Jon Heyman of MLB Network tweets. They’re also “close to agreeing on the all-important health protocols,” Heyman writes, but season length could still stand in the way of a deal.
    2:45pm: One possible point of leverage for the MLBPA, per Rosenthal and Drellich (subscription required), is that the March agreement offers rather concrete language indicating that MLB cannot simply impose an expanded postseason format without agreement from the union. A May report from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale suggested that expanding the postseason to the oft-floated 14-team setup would increase projected television revenue from $777MM to roughly $1 billion.
    Meanwhile, The Athletic’s Jayson Stark tweets that he’s heard some talk of pushing the potential start date back from the July 4 weekend to July 15, as the league and union continue their interminable staredown.
    1:00pm: The latest, widely expected step in the exhausting back-and-forth between Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association became official today, as the league has formally rejected the union’s proposal for a 114-game season with prorated salaries, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets. Moreover, the league has no plans to even extend a counter-proposal. The commissioner’s office has begun speaking with owners about implementing a shortened season, Rosenthal adds, and hopes to have similar talks with the union (rather than a negotiation regarding season length).
    Owners contend that ommissioner Rob Manfred can seek to unilaterally impose a shortened season if the union won’t budge from its prorated salary demands, and it appears that’s where they’re leaning, per the New York Post’s Joel Sherman. Either a 48- to 54-game season with fully prorated salaries or an 82-game season at less than prorated salaries are under consideration.
    The union can still push back on that, however; Rosenthal and Drellich wrote over the weekend that the MLBPA could point to a clause in the March agreement which states the league will make its “best efforts to play as many games as possible” as a point of contention against a league-implemented short schedule. Union chief Tony Clark could conceivably point to his side’s 114-game proposal as an effort to honor that language while contending that the league simply has not done so. As for any chances of the MLBPA accepting a 48- or 54-game season, those seem minuscule. The union wasn’t pleased with an 82-game schedule; nearly halving that hardly seems like a palatable alternative. Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette tweets that one player described those proposed lengths to him as a “joke” and “absurd.”
    All of this aligns with an ominous sentiment tweeted by SNY’s Andy Martino this morning, wherein he reported that there “has not been much dialogue” between the league and the players union. Sherman adds to that, noting that he’s “heard greater pessimism today” from both sides than at any point since these negotiation began.
    There’s a bit more optimism on the health and safety guidelines, it seems; Martino writes in a full column that the two sides have made progress and believe an agreement can be reached. Might some productive talks in another area finally help facilitate a breakthrough in terms of player salary? Some speculate that to be the case, but it’s hard to be overly optimistic when neither side appears willing to give an inch.
    [Related: HoopsRumors — NBA Expected to Approve 22-Team Return-to-Play Format]
    The next chapter in this interminable saga unfolds against the backdrop of the NBA’s impending vote on its own return-to-play scenario. A vote to ratify that plan will come tomorrow and would bring basketball back on July 31. MLB seemed to have the opportunity to come back in early July and be the first major sport to give starved fans across North America some of the entertainment they’ve desperately craved. On the surface, doing so seemed like an opportunity to perhaps broaden the sport’s fanbase by attracting new fans (or luring old ones back into the fold) as the only game in town, so to speak. Instead, there’s increased doubt as to whether a season will be played at all.
    At this point, the “good faith” negotiations that were oft-referenced in the March agreement are a distant memory. Both sides have issued proposals they knew to be nonstarters — twice, in the league’s case, although the revenue-sharing plan was a strategic leak rather than a formal proposal. Now, ownership appears intent on driving home the point that play will only resume under its terms.
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    • Cross
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-15-11
      • 5777

      #1787
      Might have to change this thread to a basketball thread soon.
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      • ApricotSinner32
        Restricted User
        • 11-28-10
        • 10648

        #1788
        Originally posted by EmpireMaker
        5:21pm: Two team executives, Reds president of baseball operations Dick Williams and Brewers president of baseball ops David Stearns, expressed optimism Wednesday that the owners and players will hammer something out. Williams told Jim Day of Fox Sports Ohio that “both sides want to play,” interestingly adding that he believes an agreement’s “very close” (via C. Trent Rosecrans of The Athletic). Stearns said, “I firmly believe we are going to have baseball this season” (per Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel).
        3:43pm: The two sides are seeing eye to eye on expanded playoffs and the universal DH, Jon Heyman of MLB Network tweets. They’re also “close to agreeing on the all-important health protocols,” Heyman writes, but season length could still stand in the way of a deal.
        2:45pm: One possible point of leverage for the MLBPA, per Rosenthal and Drellich (subscription required), is that the March agreement offers rather concrete language indicating that MLB cannot simply impose an expanded postseason format without agreement from the union. A May report from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale suggested that expanding the postseason to the oft-floated 14-team setup would increase projected television revenue from $777MM to roughly $1 billion.
        Meanwhile, The Athletic’s Jayson Stark tweets that he’s heard some talk of pushing the potential start date back from the July 4 weekend to July 15, as the league and union continue their interminable staredown.
        1:00pm: The latest, widely expected step in the exhausting back-and-forth between Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association became official today, as the league has formally rejected the union’s proposal for a 114-game season with prorated salaries, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets. Moreover, the league has no plans to even extend a counter-proposal. The commissioner’s office has begun speaking with owners about implementing a shortened season, Rosenthal adds, and hopes to have similar talks with the union (rather than a negotiation regarding season length).
        Owners contend that ommissioner Rob Manfred can seek to unilaterally impose a shortened season if the union won’t budge from its prorated salary demands, and it appears that’s where they’re leaning, per the New York Post’s Joel Sherman. Either a 48- to 54-game season with fully prorated salaries or an 82-game season at less than prorated salaries are under consideration.
        The union can still push back on that, however; Rosenthal and Drellich wrote over the weekend that the MLBPA could point to a clause in the March agreement which states the league will make its “best efforts to play as many games as possible” as a point of contention against a league-implemented short schedule. Union chief Tony Clark could conceivably point to his side’s 114-game proposal as an effort to honor that language while contending that the league simply has not done so. As for any chances of the MLBPA accepting a 48- or 54-game season, those seem minuscule. The union wasn’t pleased with an 82-game schedule; nearly halving that hardly seems like a palatable alternative. Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette tweets that one player described those proposed lengths to him as a “joke” and “absurd.”
        All of this aligns with an ominous sentiment tweeted by SNY’s Andy Martino this morning, wherein he reported that there “has not been much dialogue” between the league and the players union. Sherman adds to that, noting that he’s “heard greater pessimism today” from both sides than at any point since these negotiation began.
        There’s a bit more optimism on the health and safety guidelines, it seems; Martino writes in a full column that the two sides have made progress and believe an agreement can be reached. Might some productive talks in another area finally help facilitate a breakthrough in terms of player salary? Some speculate that to be the case, but it’s hard to be overly optimistic when neither side appears willing to give an inch.
        [Related: HoopsRumors — NBA Expected to Approve 22-Team Return-to-Play Format]
        The next chapter in this interminable saga unfolds against the backdrop of the NBA’s impending vote on its own return-to-play scenario. A vote to ratify that plan will come tomorrow and would bring basketball back on July 31. MLB seemed to have the opportunity to come back in early July and be the first major sport to give starved fans across North America some of the entertainment they’ve desperately craved. On the surface, doing so seemed like an opportunity to perhaps broaden the sport’s fanbase by attracting new fans (or luring old ones back into the fold) as the only game in town, so to speak. Instead, there’s increased doubt as to whether a season will be played at all.
        At this point, the “good faith” negotiations that were oft-referenced in the March agreement are a distant memory. Both sides have issued proposals they knew to be nonstarters — twice, in the league’s case, although the revenue-sharing plan was a strategic leak rather than a formal proposal. Now, ownership appears intent on driving home the point that play will only resume under its terms.
        Are we starting up soon or no?
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65172

          #1789
          On this date, June 4, 1976 exactly 44 years ago to the day, Dave Kingman of the Mets, that's right your fancy New York Metropolitans hit three home runs and drove in eight in an 11-0 win over the LA Dodgers.

          Meanwhile over in Cincy, Dave Concepcion had himself a five hit day as his Red Legs defeated the Red Birds 11-2.

          Oh also in this date June 4, 1976 almost all the fire hydrants across the U S of A were painted red, white, and blue as the big bicentennial event is exactly one month away.
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          • stevenash
            Moderator
            • 01-17-11
            • 65172

            #1790
            Kirby Yates was one of the premier NL closers last season if not the premier closer.

            He led the majors in saves with 41, had an eye popping ERA of 1.19, and equally eye popping WH/IP of 0.89.
            He had a 15 strike out per nine inning ratio striking out an incredible 101 batters in just under 61 innings pitched.

            Yet he was 0 and 5.

            How can one put up such astounding single season numbers and go 0 and 5?
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            • BigSpoon
              SBR MVP
              • 11-04-10
              • 4113

              #1791
              Originally posted by stevenash
              Kirby Yates was one of the premier NL closers last season if not the premier closer.

              He led the majors in saves with 41, had an eye popping ERA of 1.19, and equally eye popping WH/IP of 0.89.
              He had a 15 strike out per nine inning ratio striking out an incredible 101 batters in just under 61 innings pitched.

              Yet he was 0 and 5.

              How can one put up such astounding single season numbers and go 0 and 5?
              Career season right there, let's see what he can do the season after. Whenever that will be.
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              • JMobile
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-21-10
                • 19070

                #1792
                Bruce Maxwell is angry that he didn't get support for kneeling. But then he commits a violent crime and gets convicted. Lol
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                • deadphish
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-24-11
                  • 2587

                  #1793
                  Originally posted by stevenash
                  Kirby Yates was one of the premier NL closers last season if not the premier closer.

                  He led the majors in saves with 41, had an eye popping ERA of 1.19, and equally eye popping WH/IP of 0.89.
                  He had a 15 strike out per nine inning ratio striking out an incredible 101 batters in just under 61 innings pitched.

                  Yet he was 0 and 5.

                  How can one put up such astounding single season numbers and go 0 and 5?
                  lucky magic?
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                  • deadphish
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-24-11
                    • 2587

                    #1794
                    Originally posted by JMobile
                    Bruce Maxwell is angry that he didn't get support for kneeling. But then he commits a violent crime and gets convicted. Lol
                    say what NOW?
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65172

                      #1795
                      Carl Crawford just got busted for domestic abuse.
                      This does not surprise me.
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                      • ApricotSinner32
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-28-10
                        • 10648

                        #1796
                        Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                        5:21pm: Two team executives, Reds president of baseball operations Dick Williams and Brewers president of baseball ops David Stearns, expressed optimism Wednesday that the owners and players will hammer something out. Williams told Jim Day of Fox Sports Ohio that “both sides want to play,” interestingly adding that he believes an agreement’s “very close” (via C. Trent Rosecrans of The Athletic). Stearns said, “I firmly believe we are going to have baseball this season” (per Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel).
                        3:43pm: The two sides are seeing eye to eye on expanded playoffs and the universal DH, Jon Heyman of MLB Network tweets. They’re also “close to agreeing on the all-important health protocols,” Heyman writes, but season length could still stand in the way of a deal.
                        2:45pm: One possible point of leverage for the MLBPA, per Rosenthal and Drellich (subscription required), is that the March agreement offers rather concrete language indicating that MLB cannot simply impose an expanded postseason format without agreement from the union. A May report from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale suggested that expanding the postseason to the oft-floated 14-team setup would increase projected television revenue from $777MM to roughly $1 billion.
                        Meanwhile, The Athletic’s Jayson Stark tweets that he’s heard some talk of pushing the potential start date back from the July 4 weekend to July 15, as the league and union continue their interminable staredown.
                        1:00pm: The latest, widely expected step in the exhausting back-and-forth between Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association became official today, as the league has formally rejected the union’s proposal for a 114-game season with prorated salaries, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets. Moreover, the league has no plans to even extend a counter-proposal. The commissioner’s office has begun speaking with owners about implementing a shortened season, Rosenthal adds, and hopes to have similar talks with the union (rather than a negotiation regarding season length).
                        Owners contend that ommissioner Rob Manfred can seek to unilaterally impose a shortened season if the union won’t budge from its prorated salary demands, and it appears that’s where they’re leaning, per the New York Post’s Joel Sherman. Either a 48- to 54-game season with fully prorated salaries or an 82-game season at less than prorated salaries are under consideration.
                        The union can still push back on that, however; Rosenthal and Drellich wrote over the weekend that the MLBPA could point to a clause in the March agreement which states the league will make its “best efforts to play as many games as possible” as a point of contention against a league-implemented short schedule. Union chief Tony Clark could conceivably point to his side’s 114-game proposal as an effort to honor that language while contending that the league simply has not done so. As for any chances of the MLBPA accepting a 48- or 54-game season, those seem minuscule. The union wasn’t pleased with an 82-game schedule; nearly halving that hardly seems like a palatable alternative. Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette tweets that one player described those proposed lengths to him as a “joke” and “absurd.”
                        All of this aligns with an ominous sentiment tweeted by SNY’s Andy Martino this morning, wherein he reported that there “has not been much dialogue” between the league and the players union. Sherman adds to that, noting that he’s “heard greater pessimism today” from both sides than at any point since these negotiation began.
                        There’s a bit more optimism on the health and safety guidelines, it seems; Martino writes in a full column that the two sides have made progress and believe an agreement can be reached. Might some productive talks in another area finally help facilitate a breakthrough in terms of player salary? Some speculate that to be the case, but it’s hard to be overly optimistic when neither side appears willing to give an inch.
                        [Related: HoopsRumors — NBA Expected to Approve 22-Team Return-to-Play Format]
                        The next chapter in this interminable saga unfolds against the backdrop of the NBA’s impending vote on its own return-to-play scenario. A vote to ratify that plan will come tomorrow and would bring basketball back on July 31. MLB seemed to have the opportunity to come back in early July and be the first major sport to give starved fans across North America some of the entertainment they’ve desperately craved. On the surface, doing so seemed like an opportunity to perhaps broaden the sport’s fanbase by attracting new fans (or luring old ones back into the fold) as the only game in town, so to speak. Instead, there’s increased doubt as to whether a season will be played at all.
                        At this point, the “good faith” negotiations that were oft-referenced in the March agreement are a distant memory. Both sides have issued proposals they knew to be nonstarters — twice, in the league’s case, although the revenue-sharing plan was a strategic leak rather than a formal proposal. Now, ownership appears intent on driving home the point that play will only resume under its terms.
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                        • jrgum3
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-21-17
                          • 7005

                          #1797
                          It's sad that baseball can't get its act together. I know some people will be happy with hockey and basketball coming back but my life will still feel empty if baseball doesn't return. Every day the possibility of baseball coming back seems to be getting less and less by the day.
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                          • Cross
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-15-11
                            • 5777

                            #1798
                            Very small window for baseball to get this together.
                            Comment
                            • ApricotSinner32
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-28-10
                              • 10648

                              #1799
                              What the fuk is going on here?
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                              • EmpireMaker
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 06-18-09
                                • 15566

                                #1800
                                7:49pm: There’s no end in sight to this standoff. After an MLBPA board meeting on Thursday, union head Tony Clark said, “The league’s demand for additional concessions was resoundingly rejected” (full statement here via Jeff Passan of ESPN.com). The players want to return to the field, but they’re simply not open to another pay cut, as Cardinals reliever Andrew Miller told Evan Drellich and Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (subscription link). “Players are engaged like I’ve never seen before,” Miller said. “Every day through ths each of those factors is reinforced. We hope to be on the field as soon as possible.”
                                6:39pm: As the deadlock between the league and the Players Association continues, MLB Network’s Jon Heyman tweets that the 30 team owners are remaining “steadfast” in aiming to end the season by Nov. 1. Diamondbacks owner Ken Kendrick already firmly voiced earlier this week his stance that ownership’s model of not playing games in November “will never be changed.”
                                Twins president, CEO and executive board member Dave St. Peter offered a similar sentiment in a lighter tone than Kendrick, telling La Velle E. Neal III of the Minneapolis Star Tribune: “Getting derailed on the start/stop scenario is the worst-case scenario. You’re trying to thread a needle in getting a baseball season in before a second surge of this virus which we believe is a very real possibility.”
                                Never one to hold back his thoughts, agent Scott Boras again pushed back on ownership’s public-facing stance, telling The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal: “The NFL and college football – contact sports – could be playing in November, let alone December. MLB, a social distancing sport, says it can’t play playoffs in November.”
                                It’s possible to push back on baseball being a “social distancing sport” in a general sense — there are close quarters the dugout, clubhouse, on the bases, etc. — but relative to a sport like football, the point obviously holds true. As St. Peter and Kendrick have alluded to, however, the worst-case scenario for the league might be paying the players a prorated salary (or even a reduced rate) and then having to cancel postseason play. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale has previously reported that the standard-format postseason television revenue could approach $777MM, with an expanded format pushing that number closer to $1 billion.
                                Furthermore, as Reds righty Trevor Bauer and his agent, Rachel Luba, discussed earlier this spring in a detailed YouTube video, player postseason shares are derived from gate — not television revenue. In other words, those TV dollars are pure profit for the owners. Perhaps there’s additional negotiation to be done there, but if the two sides have yet to even agree on regular-season player compensation absent gate revenue, it’s unlikely they’ve sufficiently addressed postseason shares. The sheer volume of revenue owners would stand to receive from carrying out a postseason — be it expanded or not — gives enormous incentive to strike a deal at some point, but both the length of schedule and the timeframe within which it falls remain major obstacles.
                                All of that seems to dovetail with the league’s newfound push for a shortened schedule. It was reported over the weekend that the owners feel the standing March agreement gives commissioner Rob Manfred the power to unilaterally impose a shorter length of season. Doing so would likely entitle the players to prorated salary but over a fraction of the would-be regular season; the New York Post’s Joel Sherman suggested as few as 48 to 54 games may even be under consideration.
                                That push would limit the owners’ in-season expenses while bringing about a notable postseason windfall. To that end, Ronald Blum of the Associated Press obtained an email sent from deputy commissioner Dan Halem to MLBPA negotiator Bruce Meyer which expressly confirms that the league is looking into a commissioner-imposed, shortened season. A portion of said email read as follows:
                                We do not have any reason to believe that a negotiated solution for an 82-game season is possible. You confirmed for us on Sunday that players are unified in their view that they will not accept less than 100% of their prorated salaries, and we have no choice but to accept that representation. Nonetheless, the commissioner is committed to playing baseball in 2020. He has started discussions with ownership about staging a shorter season without fans.
                                However, Blum notes that the league is strongly opposed to deferring salaries, with interest, likening that to another means of accruing debt. Halem also expressed concerns about the costs of acquiring mass testing capabilities, suggesting that’d cost teams upward of $50MM.
                                As has been the case for months now, it’s readily apparent that both sides have considerable motivation to finalize some type of agreement on how to salvage the 2020 season. Actually moving closer to finding a common ground, however, has proven virtually impossible — even as other sports have found ways to chart a path back to their seasons.
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65172

                                  #1801
                                  On this date, June 5, 2019 exactly one year ago to the day Craig Kimbrel finally found a home as he finally signed with the Chicago Cubs.

                                  Fat load of good that did, the Cubs still sucked with him.
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                                  • koz-man
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-21-08
                                    • 7102

                                    #1802
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    On this date, June 5, 2019 exactly one year ago to the day Craig Kimbrel finally found a home as he finally signed with the Chicago Cubs.

                                    Fat load of good that did, the Cubs still sucked with him.
                                    Best days behind him w/ Braves....Down hill for him from here
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                                    • JMobile
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-21-10
                                      • 19070

                                      #1803
                                      So MLB is looking at 48 games for 2020
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                                      • batt33
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-23-16
                                        • 5978

                                        #1804
                                        The league has rejected the Players Association's proposal that would have featured a 114-game season and an expanded postseason, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. The league is not expected to make a counteroffer. The owners would prefer a shorter regular season with an assurance that the postseason will be completed before November, and before a potential second wave of the novel coronavirus sweeps the country.
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                                        • Stallion
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-21-10
                                          • 3617

                                          #1805
                                          So now no baseball??
                                          Comment
                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65172

                                            #1806
                                            Originally posted by Stallion
                                            So now no baseball??
                                            Not true, it looks like there'll probably be a watered down season.
                                            I'll watch but I don't have to like it.
                                            Comment
                                            • Carseller4
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-22-09
                                              • 19627

                                              #1807
                                              Both sides will hunker down next week.

                                              We will have baseball on the 4th of July.
                                              Comment
                                              • EmpireMaker
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-18-09
                                                • 15566

                                                #1808
                                                After being stranded in his native Dominican Republic for several weeks because of travel restrictions, Phillies reliever Seranthony Dominguez has returned to the United States, Matt Gelb of The Athletic reports. Now that Dominguez is back, the Phillies expect that he’ll undergo Tommy John surgery on his torn right ulnar collateral ligament sometime soon – perhaps as early as this month – according to Gelb.
                                                Surgery has long seemed like the probable route for Dominguez, as doctors recommended he undergo the procedure back in late March. Because Dominguez has had to wait so long since then, though, his delay in returning to a major league mound will drag on for an especially lengthy period of time. The typical Tommy John recovery takes 12 to 18 months, so he’ll miss all of this season (provided there is one) and could sit out most or all of 2021.
                                                It has been exactly one full year since Dominguez last took the hill on June 5, 2019, after which his UCL injury cut him down. The 25-year-old concluded 2019 with 24 2/3 innings of 4.01 ERA/4.02 FIP ball and 10.58 K/9, 4.38 BB/9, and a 54.5 percent groundball rate. The flamethrowing Dominguez burst on the scene during the previous season with a 2.95 ERA/2.85 FIP, 11.48 K/9 against 3.41 BB/9, and a 55.7 percent grounder mark over 58 frames.
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                                                • jrgum3
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-21-17
                                                  • 7005

                                                  #1809
                                                  Originally posted by Carseller4
                                                  Both sides will hunker down next week.

                                                  We will have baseball on the 4th of July.
                                                  God I hope so but I'll believe it when I see it.
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                                                  • ApricotSinner32
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-28-10
                                                    • 10648

                                                    #1810
                                                    Fuk is going on here????
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                                                    • Otters27
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-14-07
                                                      • 30749

                                                      #1811
                                                      Was really craving some baseball yesterday when watching the horses
                                                      Comment
                                                      • jrgum3
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-21-17
                                                        • 7005

                                                        #1812
                                                        Originally posted by Otters27
                                                        Was really craving some baseball yesterday when watching the horses
                                                        I have to say that even though it's not the quality of the MLB or even AAA I have enjoyed watching and betting on KBO. Of course I might have to start munching on rolaids tablets like Davey Johnson when they go to their bullpen. I thought I had an easy winner with LG tonight but of course the bullpen pissed it away which is all too common in this league for all the teams pretty much.
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                                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-11-11
                                                          • 29217

                                                          #1813
                                                          Originally posted by deadphish
                                                          lucky magic?
                                                          nope, the split fingered fastball that he learned a couple of years ago.
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                                                          • Stallion
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-21-10
                                                            • 3617

                                                            #1814
                                                            The players don't want to take more of a pay cut, and want a shorter season. The owners want a longer season and the players to take a bigger pay cut; I don't see either side budging.
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65172

                                                              #1815
                                                              On this date, June 6, 2018, exactly two years ago to the day, Hall of Famer and Cardinal icon Red Schoendienst passed away at the age of 95.

                                                              The baseball gods truly smiled on Red.
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                                                              • jrgum3
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-21-17
                                                                • 7005

                                                                #1816
                                                                Originally posted by Stallion
                                                                The players don't want to take more of a pay cut, and want a shorter season. The owners want a longer season and the players to take a bigger pay cut; I don't see either side budging.
                                                                The players want more games but the owners don't want to pay them their pro rated salaries for those games. Either way its pretty stupid that money is what is keeping baseball from being played in the US right now.
                                                                Comment
                                                                • JMobile
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-21-10
                                                                  • 19070

                                                                  #1817
                                                                  Matt Harvey might play for Korean team
                                                                  Comment
                                                                  • Heltah Skeltah
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-05-17
                                                                    • 3499

                                                                    #1818
                                                                    If nothing is agreed by June 10th then it is all but over. Mlb had a great opportunity and seems to be blowing it. If no season this will have long lasting implications. Both sides seem not to give a fck about the fans. Sad they can't see that they basically blew a big opportunity to be the first main sport back with all eyes on them. Fck em all I say
                                                                    Comment
                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65172

                                                                      #1819
                                                                      Originally posted by JMobile
                                                                      Matt Harvey might play for Korean team
                                                                      So that'll make two continents that Matt will get torched on.
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                                                                        SteveNash with some solid comments. Love it!
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