SBR Fantasy Football League I 2018

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Pretty sure Rtssports changed him to a RB when it was reported he was starting in that position in a playoff week. In a perfect world yahoo would have done the same but they didn’t. Pitt throws the ball almost 70% of the time and being a PPR league it will probably effect the outcome of plsyofff Games. I think the bigger picture here is the waiver process during the playoffs. In the regular season you’re trying to get a competitive balance on teams who’ve lost. A higher seeded team should not have a waiver preference in the playoffs. As a GM who barely uses the waiver system, I think it’s something to look into moving forward.

Sorry if im not making sense. Was on the phone with greaser till 3am getting him off the ledge.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

And I believe Samuels was playing RB in preseason but was beat out by Conner.

EDIT: in reading some of the rotoworld fantasy forums many were shocked he had duel eligibility on yahoo. ESPN & CBS has him listed as a RB. And he was not even on Pittsburgh’s depth chart as a TE

[grease lightnin]

No LT, I am not a fantasy veteran. I think you know this is my third season. But I am not an idiot. i know how to read. I remember Ty Montgomery but it wasn’t relevant because he didn’t do much as an RB. And he did play as a WR that season.

Samuels has not played one snap at TE all season. The least productive position in the game. Now he is next man up as an RB in the most productive offense in the league and Dazer has the ability to put him in as a TE. Sure you could do this all season but it didn’t matter until now, when he is actually relevant. Just happens to be the first week of the playoffs.

The only site that has him listed as a TE is Yahoo. It is the only one. From what I can gather, this is because they get their data from a third party before the season starts, and they don’t have the intellectual capability, wherewithal, or work ethic to make a change once the season begins. Every other site has him listed as what he is— an RB. ESPN, CBS, and the actual authority—NFL.com.

Samuels worked out with the TE group at the combine, he played TE and RB in college, but he was drafted by Pitt as an RB, has been listed as a RB on their roster all season and has only played as an RB in the NFL.

As I said earlier, this is a major Fuk up on yahoo’s part, and many commissioners are not allowing him to be put in at TE, as they shouldn’t. I would do this in my cash league, but the guy who handcuffed him is bottom of the barrel and will not make the playoffs which begin next week.

Many are leaving yahoo entirely.

It is bullshit. Our commish doesn’t seem to care, but you other guys who are in the playoffs—you better hope Conner heals or you will be dealing with the same bullshit.

If this goes forward, this season is tainted.

[LT Profits]

Pretty sure Rtssports changed him to a RB when it was reported he was starting in that position in a playoff week.

That does not seem right to me, I doubt they or anyone else would take away position eligibility during the season. I think it is far more likely that RT had him RB-only all year, and that I must have been looking at another Yahoo league when I saw him as RB/TE instead of RT.

Anyhow, we are introducing things that have nothing to do with the issue at hand. The ONLY thing that matters is that Yahoo has had him at RB/TE all year and that does not change now. As I said, there really is no debate here, it is very straightforward and I don't want to waste any more time arguing something that should be a non-issue.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

This is a very interesting subject as it’s been brought to my attention in my yahoo cash league. I guess I should look into this more. Makes zero sense that yahoo is the only FFL that has him as a TE/RB

[LT Profits]

No LT, I am not a fantasy veteran. I think you know this is my third season. But I am not an idiot. i know how to read. I remember Ty Montgomery but it wasn’t relevant because he didn’t do much as an RB. And he did play as a WR that season.

Samuels has not played one snap at TE all season. The least productive position in the game. Now he is next man up as an RB in the most productive offense in the league and Dazer has the ability to put him in as a TE.

The only site that has him listed as a TE is Yahoo. It is the only one. From what I can gather, this is because they get their data from a third party before the season starts, and they don’t have the intellectual capability, wherewithal, or work ethic to make a change once the season begins. Every other site has him listed as what he is— an RB. ESPN, CBS, and the actual authority—NFL.com.

Samuels worked out with the TE group at the combine, he played TE and RB in college, but he was drafted by Pitt as an RB, has been listed as a TE on their roster all season and has only played as an RB in the NFL.

As I said earlier, this is a major Fuk up in yahoo’s part, and many commissioners are not allowing him to be put in at TE, as they should. I would do this in my cash league, but the guy who handcuffed him is bottom of the barrel and will not make the playoffs which begin next week.

Many are leaving yahoo entirely.

It is bullshit. Our commish doesn’t seem to care, but you other guys who are in the playoffs—you better hope Conner heals or you will be dealing with the same bullshit.

OK, i thought you were around longer, not that it changes anything. So I guess my Rod Bernstine reference went over your head, he was another TE that converted to RB back in the late 80s, early 90s that qualified for both positions.

Bottom line: Yahoo has had him as dual qualifier all year, the reason that have had him that way does not even matter (although the answer to that is he is rookie played TE at North Carolina). He has been available to the entire league at both positions all year and could have been claimed at any time. Again, there is no debate here, this case is closed unless Yahoo suddenly takes away his TE eligibility, which to me would be unethical, especially for those that stashed him early.

And no I have no hidden agenda, I don't have him on any of my teams.

[grease lightnin]

This is straight garbage.

Here is what I just posted to my league where I am commissioner and we are playing for money:

“Hey guys. Short Dog has Samuels rostered as a TE but he is a running back. Yahoo is the only site who has Samuels listed as both rB and TE. He worked out with TE group at the combine but was drafted as an RB and has played every snap as an RB. I don't think he should be on anyone's roster as a TE. The only person this affects this week is yours truly because Shorty is playing Justin, who is #2 behind me. So let's put it to a vote. All in favor of removing Samuels as TE from Shorty's roster say Aye”

[LT Profits]

This is a very interesting subject as it’s been brought to my attention in my yahoo cash league. I guess I should look into this more. Makes zero sense that yahoo is the only FFL that has him as a TE/RB

But fact is that they do and we have no choice but to go by it as long as we play in their league. Biggest key here they have been consistent all year and this is not some last minute bullshit. In fact, THAT would actually be if they take away TE eligibility at this stage, that would be equivalent to changing rules midstream, as it affects those that had the foresight to stash him in event what is happening now became reality.

[LT Profits]

This is straight garbage.

Here is what I just posted to my league where I am commissioner and we are playing for money:

“Hey guys. Short Dog has Samuels rostered as a TE but he is a running back. Yahoo is the only site who has Samuels listed as both rB and TE. He worked out with TE group at the combine but was drafted as an RB and has played every snap as an RB. I don't think he should be on anyone's roster as a TE. The only person this affects this week is yours truly because Shorty is playing Justin, who is #2 behind me. So let's put it to a vote. All in favor of removing Samuels as TE from Shorty's roster say Aye”

I repeat, CASE CLOSED. There is no grey area here and I have already explained why. Time to move on.

[LT Profits]

This is straight garbage.

Here is what I just posted to my league where I am commissioner and we are playing for money:

“Hey guys. Short Dog has Samuels rostered as a TE but he is a running back. Yahoo is the only site who has Samuels listed as both rB and TE. He worked out with TE group at the combine but was drafted as an RB and has played every snap as an RB. I don't think he should be on anyone's roster as a TE. The only person this affects this week is yours truly because Shorty is playing Justin, who is #2 behind me. So let's put it to a vote. All in favor of removing Samuels as TE from Shorty's roster say Aye”

And this is overstepping your bounds as a commissioner. Again, think of those that knew the rules and stashed Samuels early. I get that does not directly apply to your league if the guy will not make the playoffs, but fact that it COULD have has to enter into the decision.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

This is straight garbage.

Here is what I just posted to my league where I am commissioner and we are playing for money:

“Hey guys. Short Dog has Samuels rostered as a TE but he is a running back. Yahoo is the only site who has Samuels listed as both rB and TE. He worked out with TE group at the combine but was drafted as an RB and has played every snap as an RB. I don't think he should be on anyone's roster as a TE. The only person this affects this week is yours truly because Shorty is playing Justin, who is #2 behind me. So let's put it to a vote. All in favor of removing Samuels as TE from Shorty's roster say Aye”

The fact you have a friend named Short Dog is a bit scary.

LT have you contacted Yahoo about this? As a commissioner I’d think you’d want to do your due diligence. I just shot them a email as it affects playoffs in my league. To just say case closed is a bit close minded, no?

[LT Profits]

Our commish doesn’t seem to care

OF COURSE I care and I have ruled. Don't make me repeat myself, my ruling is quite clear and fair.

[grease lightnin]

Well, I guess it is your decision, LT.

But as a paying member of the league, I have the right to tell you I think it’s garbage.

And you can say “case closed” or whatever else you want, but I don’t give a damn.

GARBAGE

[LT Profits]

To just say case closed is a bit close minded, no?

No because to me it is very straightforward. You simply cannot take away a position eligibility during the year, I would actually have more of an issue with THAT than what they are doing by keeping eligibility the same as it has been all year, which is the way it should be.

[grease lightnin]

Plus you say “not fair to someone who knew the rules and handcuffed him weeks ago....”

Does not apply to this case because dazer just picked him up.

[LT Profits]

Well, I guess it is your decision, LT.

But as a paying member of the league, I have the right to tell you I think it’s garbage.

And you can say “case closed” or whatever else you want, but I don’t give a damn.

GARBAGE

It is not "garbage", how would you feel if YOU stashed him on your roster? Same rules applied to everyone.

[LT Profits]

Plus you say “not fair to someone who knew the rules and handcuffed him weeks ago....”

Does not apply to this case because dazer just picked him up.

But anyone COULD have at any time. Can't change rules now to suit your needs, sorry.

[grease lightnin]

OF COURSE I care and I have ruled. Don't make me repeat myself, my ruling is quite clear and fair.

You you have never waivered one bit on anything anyone has ever appealed to you about as commissioner. Not once. You are rigid to say the least.

And this is the first time I have ever complained about anything in 3 years

[USCPHILLYGUY]

LT come on. It was an obvious mistake on yahoos part. You’d have to be a fukin fantasy savant to use this to your advantage and stash him as you say. I’ve given you credit for things you’ve done well but your reluctance to even look into this matter isn’t surprising to many.

[LT Profits]

Remember, we are talking about a policy that affects all leagues current and future, bottom line is that as long as we use Yahoo, we HAVE to follow their position eligibles, especially when have been consistent all season.

[LT Profits]

You are rigid to say the least.

And that is a GOOD thing for a commissioner.

I prefer tough but fair though.

[grease lightnin]

You you have never waivered one bit on anything anyone has ever appealed to you about as commissioner. Not once. You are rigid to say the least.

And this is the first time I have ever complained about anything in 3 years

The hilarious proof of the above is when you said I overstepped my bounds by putting it to a vote.

[LT Profits]

LT come on. It was an obvious mistake on yahoos part. You’d have to be a fukin fantasy savant to use this to your advantage and stash him as you say. I’ve given you credit for things you’ve done well but your reluctance to even look into this matter isn’t surprising to many.

Because there is nothing to look into. And yes guys started storing Samuels after Week 10 when Bell was officially done for the season, in the event of Conner injury.

But the BIGGEST takeaway here is Yahoo has not changed the RB.TE designation all year, that is really all that matters.

[LT Profits]

The hilarious proof of the above is when you said I overstepped my bounds by putting it to a vote.

Overstepped in trying to change a position eligibility that has been in place all year, that is just wrong.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Come on men. Let’s flood them with phone calls Attica. Attica. Attica!!!



Contact a representative Yahoo's corporate headquarters. Call Yahoo's customer care phone number at 408-349-5070, or toll-free at 866-562-7219. Compose an email that briefly describes your inquiry or concern, and send it to a representative at Yahoo's general customer service email address: cc-advoc@yahoo-inc.com.

[grease lightnin]

Overstepped in trying to change a position eligibility that has been in place all year, that is just wrong.

On Jaylen Samuels:
He’s had RB/TE eligibility all season. If we remove TE eligibility today, it would not take effect until this evening, after most claims had been made. We felt it was not fair to change so late in the day or season.
Samuels will remain an RB/TE in our game.
— Yahoo Fantasy Sports (@YahooFantasy) December 4, 2018




By adding “late in the day” they are admitting they fukked up. Otherwise they would have omitted those words. So yes, you should make a call here and do the right thing. Yahoo “rules” are fukked up and you should rectify that as commish.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

The fact you have a friend named Short Dog is a bit scary.

LT have you contacted Yahoo about this? As a commissioner I’d think you’d want to do your due diligence. I just shot them a email as it affects playoffs in my league. To just say case closed is a bit close minded, no?

LOL this made me laugh out loud literally.

here is my take on the situation..research Samuels and you will find that he was a hybrid TE/FB/RB throughout college. Read his pre NFL draft reports, many talk about him being a hybrid without a position. The most carries as a running back that he had in a college game was 12. This is his rookie season in the NFL and given how he was used in college, it makes a lot of sense that he is eligible at RB AND TE. I realize this won't be a popular opinion but I see no issue with someone using him at TE. As far as him playing no snaps at TE this season? He has hardly played any snaps at all this year. The key is that he is a rookie and how he was used in college.

[Auto Donk]

wow.... I read this one page and know this fantasy shit looks way to f'n controversial and convoluted to ever get involved.... seems time consuming as shit, as well....

[grease lightnin]

wow.... I read this one page and know this fantasy shit looks way to f'n controversial and convoluted to ever get involved.... seems time consuming as shit, as well....

We we need a lawyer in here, Donk. Help

[USCPHILLYGUY]

LOL this made me laugh out loud literally.

here is my take on the situation..research Samuels and you will find that he was a hybrid TE/FB/RB throughout college. Read his pre NFL draft reports, many talk about him being a hybrid without a position. The most carries as a running back that he had in a college game was 12. This is his rookie season in the NFL and given how he was used in college, it makes a lot of sense that he is eligible at RB AND TE. I realize this won't be a popular opinion but I see no issue with someone using him at TE. As far as him playing no snaps at TE this season? He has hardly played any snaps at all this year. The key is that he is a rookie and how he was used in college.

Jake I understand both sides of the argument here. I just watched some of his college highlights & can agree with your statement. I think the bigger issue here is the fact that Yahoo is the only league with this assessment & we can probably all agree it’s wrong. I doubt I’d put anything to a league vote but would not use yahoo moving forward.

[LT Profits]

Come on men. Let’s flood them with phone calls Attica. Attica. Attica!!!



Contact a representative Yahoo's corporate headquarters. Call Yahoo's customer care phone number at 408-349-5070, or toll-free at 866-562-7219. Compose an email that briefly describes your inquiry or concern, and send it to a representative at Yahoo's general customer service email address: cc-advoc@yahoo-inc.com.

On Jaylen Samuels:
He’s had RB/TE eligibility all season. If we remove TE eligibility today, it would not take effect until this evening, after most claims had been made. We felt it was not fair to change so late in the day or season.
Samuels will remain an RB/TE in our game.
— Yahoo Fantasy Sports (@YahooFantasy) December 4, 2018




By adding “late in the day” they are admitting they fukked up. Otherwise they would have omitted those words. So yes, you should make a call here and do the right thing. Yahoo “rules” are fukked up and you should rectify that as commish.

And if they remove TE, we would have no choice but to follow that too, even though I disagree with it. We are using Yahoo's decision no matter what, I have zero interest in changing what they decide on either way.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Jake I understand both sides of the argument here. I just watched some of his college highlights & can agree with your statement. I think the bigger issue here is the fact that Yahoo is the only league with this assessment & we can probably all agree it’s wrong. I doubt I’d put anything to a league vote but would not use yahoo moving forward.

I can see why yahoo gave him multiple position eligibility and I don't see why the league should switch from yahoo in the future. I understand that you and greaser are upset over the matter but it is what it is.

[grease lightnin]

LOL this made me laugh out loud literally.

here is my take on the situation..research Samuels and you will find that he was a hybrid TE/FB/RB throughout college. Read his pre NFL draft reports, many talk about him being a hybrid without a position. The most carries as a running back that he had in a college game was 12. This is his rookie season in the NFL and given how he was used in college, it makes a lot of sense that he is eligible at RB AND TE. I realize this won't be a popular opinion but I see no issue with someone using him at TE. As far as him playing no snaps at TE this season? He has hardly played any snaps at all this year. The key is that he is a rookie and how he was used in college.

Ok... even though he hasn’t even been listed as TE in Pitt’s depth chart, NO OTHER WEBSITE has him as a hybrid, and yahoo admitted they only go by preseason third party data, and that they fukked up????

I think you are being the opportunist that you are, like trying to unload Gronk on me when you thought he was injured, offer to take Edelman, then as soon as we hear Gronk is practicing you are like “nevermind”.

When Dazer knocks me out this week, not to wish bad juju on Conner, but I hope they keep Samuels in for Dazer to keep him in the TE slot for the balance of the playoffs/championship or at least long enough to knock you out, peavy

[USCPHILLYGUY]

I can see why yahoo gave him multiple position eligibility and I don't see why the league should switch from yahoo in the future. I understand that you and greaser are upset over the matter but it is what it is.

so why didn’t every other FFL do the same?

Doesn’t affect me at all as by all accounts Conner is back next week. I love my teams matchups throughout all 3 weeks of the playoffs. The bye was just a bonus. I can understand greasers frustration. Add to the fact Dazers Peavy-esk turn the knife replies just irritates him even more. It’s fantasy football. The guy could get hurt on the 1st play. Most of the arguments we have over these things tend not to make a difference anyway. Let’s hope that’s the case here

[LT Profits]

so why didn’t every other FFL do the same?

Doesn’t affect me at all as by all accounts Conner is back next week. I love my teams matchups throughout all 3 weeks of the playoffs. The bye was just a bonus. I can understand greasers frustration. Add to the fact Dazers Peavy-esk turn the knife replies just irritates him even more. It’s fantasy football. The guy could get hurt on the 1st play. Most of the arguments we have over these things tend not to make a difference anyway. Let’s hope that’s the case here

You are not getting that Yahoo being the only site (that we know of) does not really matter, as long as they have been up front about it all year. No different than some sportsbook having a house rule that overtime does not count toward NHL totals.